Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
I don't want to be a Star Trek Borg Kill yourself faggot.
Brayden Gonzalez
You already are, and as Google and Facebook collect everything about you, you won't even realize how you work for them. Communism gets stronger everytime the government grows in power. Just think how strong our government will be under Trump.
Brayden Hall
So this is what has succeeded the CTR Shillaries. Hence, this subversive ideology shall be named - Bolshillvism
Zachary Walker
I never really understood the point of being a communist. Why be a communist when you can be a fascist or distributist instead? They both solve the same problems communism seeks to solve, but have had a far greater success rate.
Ethan Parker
>Strong government = Communism
I bet you think medieval kingdoms and ancient Rome were communist too.
Bentley Adams
Dirty dumb commy scum
Owen Wood
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Colton Ross
i will admit, the commie vibe and the logo is cool
but, it doesn't work
i honestly wish the communism symbol was the symbol for the alt-right .
that'd look really nice
Jack Barnes
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Logan Ross
You must be one of those podemos facebook kikes with the republica flag as their profile picture. Grab a hammer, shove it up your ass and then slit your throat with a sickle you fucking faggot.
Jaxon Gutierrez
gtfo
Ayden Lewis
>I don't understand the difference between personal and private property - the post
Easton Wilson
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Gavin Cook
How does communism seek to defend itself against other populist ideologies such as distributism and fascism without a state? How can you defend yourselves against the fascist and distributist armies that their governments raise and the subversion to your system they cause?
Samuel Gray
Undialectical gentlemen in this thread.
Jaxson Taylor
Cunt.
Henry Carter
By quickly organizing a socialist government, ofc. Same as the capitalists do.
War is a socialist business.
Lucas Murphy
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Owen Moore
Fuck she looks hot though, he might be a cuckold but how he managed to land that is beyond me. She looks a bit like a curvy Ana Kasparian, no?
Wow, one of hese threads got more than 15 replies. >communism has never worked and eill ever work for the same reason Youre even more retarded than stormfags
Easton Flores
Which makes you the easiest ideology to destroy ever. All we have to do to get rid of communism is go to war with it. Then a socialist government is elected, it quickly becomes totalitarian, both from the nature of socialism and the necessities of war, and next thing you know the government doesn't quite feel like stepping down after the war (assuming you survive it).
Mason Allen
>socialist government >totalitarian >nature of socialism You're not particularly smart, are you?
Brayden Smith
>Fascism is capitalism Nice bait, mademerespond/10
Brandon Edwards
these threads are still happening? top fucking kek
Elijah Campbell
I miss yugoslavia honestly
Thomas Gray
Look, I know you guys will go on about how there's never been real communism and socialism, but there have sure as hell been real attempts, and every single one of those attempts have ended in miserable failure.
Adrian Richardson
So?
Jose Scott
It's still fun to laugh at them. Honestly I hope they never go away, they just keep a thread constantly around for my amusement.
Brandon Bell
Tito Died and you burgers had to add the final blow
Owen Rogers
Doing the same error again and again, expecting a different result is the definition of stupidity.
Jacob Hall
But dont worry after the collapse we came to your country and we showed your women how we did it back in the old country :)
>walk into thread >anime post and say stupid shit >act superior ???
Kevin Clark
>I didn't read the post - the post
Andrew Morgan
Because as pointed out in and your ideology is the most fragile ideology there is. All socialist states fail, and if you somehow skip the socialist stage and go right to communism then we can just force you to adopt a socialist government through warfare.
And what does it gain you that fascism and distributism doesn't already do for you? Nothing! So why should I adopt your garbage ideology?
Carson Lopez
why are you humongous faggots still trying to make this a thing just go back to your containment sites already and let us have ours
Juan Baker
>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage. Communism only works if everyone is Carl Marx, or equally idealistic. So when you are you eliminating the jews, nignogs, arab princes, african warlords. bankers, and other greedy materialists?
Luke Johnson
The black book is a lie.
Adrian Jackson
>All socialist states fail You're an idiot.
Robert Wood
Name me one long lasting socialist state that hasn't failed.
Charles Turner
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Asher Turner
Define 'failed'.
Thomas Rivera
communism never
Jaxon Lewis
The workers owned the means of production, it isn't just socialist in name only like modern China, and it prospered just as much if not more than the capitalist countries.
Michael Bennett
Burn in hell bastards.
Connor Bennett
fail [feyl]
verb (used without object) 1. to fall short of success or achievement in something expected, attempted, desired, or approved: The experiment failed because of poor planning.
You lazy fucking leaf. Now stop dodging the fuck question.
Christopher Wood
Tito's Yugoslavia.
Oliver Taylor
COMMIESHIT ARE RAIDING US. READ AND SPREAD.
Easton Foster
Or chile.
Easton Rogers
COMMUNISM NEVER
Jackson James
Communism isn't working out so well in Tuvalu is it?
>Nobody works >Just collects welfare >People sit around and masturbate in huts all day >Some of the worst polluters in the Pacific >Average IQ of 65.
Anthony Gutierrez
Lol. They think progress is being made... Al i ever see is discussion amongst them selves and people calling them faggots.
Red Faggots. Your ideology is shit. It is based on getting people to believe a lie.
Jason Allen
Literally only held together by Tito's sheer charisma and will, fell apart shortly afterwards, still purged about 100,000 people.
Lincoln Barnes
And? Most of them were undesireables anyway
Oliver Richardson
Since Communist advocate for the destruction of local cultures, history and traditions, all you commies need is a patch of land. You don't have to slay millions of people to prove your ideology. Just go to Africa and build your nation. If the result is successful, other will follow.
Landon Miller
But don't you know user, it's those darn coups by the CIA like said.
Because clearly an ideology so weak that it can be couped extremely easily is the master ideology above all the rest.
Julian Walker
No, we will just seize the means of production in an developed nations, that will make things :^)
Tyler Rogers
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Camden Torres
Yes, clearly EVERYTHING I own and make should go to everyone else, regardless of how much they deserve or need it, that is the true glory of cuckunism.
John Morgan
The concept of being progressive which entails social justice and from which other things sprang that Sup Forums is so vehemently opposed to etc. is something marx prediced would happen in a capitalist nation state: ))))
Christopher Ross
Good Igor
Brandon Hill
So does capitalism, though.
Christian Taylor
this doesnt make any sense. he is not entitled, thats why he pays me to do it.
In your twisted logic, the boss is the cuck, since he has to pay me to do things he doesnt know how to do.
Michael Russell
You know what doesn't advocate for the destruction of cultures, fixes the class conflict, and leads to prosperity? Fascism, that's what.
Anthony Walker
I'm fascist, not capitalist. I value my country and my culture.
Brayden Lewis
>Because clearly an ideology so weak that it can be couped extremely easily is the master ideology above all the rest. Not a commie or anything but is your assertion here that one ideology over another will determine whether you can outmatch an enemy who will, in any case, have access to far superior resources than you?
Which ideology has that worked for in the recent past?
Asher Barnes
Partito Nazionale Fascista when?
Logan Walker
An ideology should be capable of defending itself. Now, that's not to say just because an ideology was defeated in battle it was the weaker one, there are other factors. But when EVERY socialist failure is justified with "enemy coups" then clearly something is wrong.
Adrian Barnes
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David Gray
The first 6 years of the Nazi regime force you to remove the prosperity part.
Jack Long
Let's not forget the nordic economies, their "social corporatism" and "folkhemmet" lead them to great success and prosperity. All you need is to avoid warmongering and genocide, which isn't an inherent part of fascism anyways.
Owen Nguyen
We need a white male socialist society where cancerous capitalism can't infest us with decadence,feminism and those monstruos horrible made up genders ! The revolution only knows two genders !
Cooper Foster
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Jeremiah Martin
If Stalin could not wipe out religion, no one can.
Marx's economic analysis is one thing, the future looks to be moving towards socialism, but the spiritual life of the world seems extremely resilient.
Do to this inconsistency, I believe that Marxism will not play out the way we think. Worker's emancipation is one thing, but not everything.
Levi Hill
>white male socialist society >post a pic with a monkey
Xavier Nguyen
if you don't know who this girl is you're not a real communist