Why do you deny climate change Sup Forums?

Why do you deny climate change Sup Forums?

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The changing climate will push Human Existence to the next level of evolution.

It can not be stopped, changed or slowed down.

The coming flood will purge the world of all sin and immoral behaviour like it once did ~15000 years ago.

The climate has always been changing.

The climate will always continue to change.

jews cause climate change.

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lol cause the planets a few billion years old and these guys are extrapolating 100% TRUE TRENDS from 120 years of data with the utmost confidence

Prepare for even more massive immigration once 3rd world countries begin flooding.

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oh good, only the french will be hurt

Don't deny it. Say it's a hoax to justify redistribution of wealth on a global level. On that level, it's very fucking real and very fucking dangerous.

Same people who can't tell you if it's going to rain next week.

They're in denial that they voted for a party that promises to kill all of the federal regulations that affect the megawealthy; especially those who wanted pollute and enslave in order to further enrich themselves to ultimate power.

All environmental regulations are obstacles to them and that they're funding media outlets to spread their anti-regulation propaganda in order to mislead the public so that they're able to dismantle it completely.

If it's happening and with the estimated rise in population on Earth in the next 50 years then there is no stopping it

I don't deny climate change. I deny paying for something those who collect money pollute.

because it's not real

>hoax

>a nice warm both

ITS IS COLD AS FUCK. LOOK UP THE TEMP IN NORTH DAKOTA RIGHT NOW. THE CITY WHERE I LIVE USED TO HAVE MULTIPLE 110 DEGREE DAYS IN THE 30's NOW WE HAVN'T HAD A DAY OVER 100 IN YEARS.

ITS A FUCKING SCAM TO TAX YOU

Because it means fuck all without nuclear power

>globalist capitalist elite are the one's pushing 3rd worlders into the west
>globalist capital elite have the most to gain from climate change denial

Good goy.

climate change is for faggots

Define "deny"
A significant amount of paper's that are lumped into the "97%" number would be considered"deniers" by you zealots.

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Yes the climate is changing... we don't deny it... we just don't give a fuck about it

What the retarded antihumanist green movement wants to do to "stop man-made global warming" would kill tens of millions of third worlders and further drive them into richer nations you moron.

^This

I also have solace knowing it will destroy coastal areas I don't live first.

The frog shit is right out of al gore's propaganda piece, and it's not even what happens when you heat a living frog. Why can't the left come up with new allegories instead of repeating decade old ones over and over again?

>he thinks there is no pro climate change legislation that actively supports the megawealthy
>he also believes the megawealthy know climate change to be true but would gladly see the earth, and thus long term gain in wealth, be lost so they can pollute some more
>this guy posted this with complete smugness from his 'scientific' vantage point ignoring the fact that climate change theories are extrapolating trends for a billion year old planet from 120 years of data

kys tbqh

spbp

I do not deny climate change, I just don't care because there's nothing that can be done if it's manmade and you climate change activists are right, all life will cease to exist in a 1000 years.

We don't have the capabilities to end the pollution, we would have to go to war for it, a war that would have about the same effect.

I do not.

Trump has the BEST plan for stopping climate change.

Trade wars with china and bringing back manufacturing will reduce pollution into the air as we use better methods to manufacture.

>believe that there's no anti-climate change legislation that supports the mega wealthy.

gcoadf.

Fpbp

>Look at this snowball, what global warming?
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they aren't right thats the point. CO2 levels go up and down in the past all the time and CO2 has been higher than it is today without the run away effects they are talking about

>why they never show you longer time scales

>coldness is not proof global warming is false
>warmness is proof of global warming being true

nice

Not an argument. Green movements incompetence doesn't some how mean the global elites capitalist that put open border politicians into power are the good guys.

Because it seems, feels and hears like a money-scam.

I don't, I do believe there is a legitimate problem, but climate change is a bad term because earths climate is dynamic not static, it's always changing. The real issue is biosphere destruction driven mainly by agriculture. We are destroying too much of earths habitats to feed ourselves.

This is their actual argument. Absolute simpletons.

Silly question. May as well ask them why they can't see how bad Trump is.

because its not real
NASA was caught making it all up
youtube alex epstein center for industrial progress
youtube.com/user/ImproveThePlanet

pro tip
holohoax also didnt happen ;0

We did have a little climate change during the medieval times which lasted over 300 years, and don't forget that people were saying we were about to enter another ice age in the 80s as well.

I dont believe that its a problem, but if the are right about this then it wouldn't matter if they did anything, we will all be dead anyway.

Actually, they get that right pretty often. Would trust.

>Green movements incompetence doesn't some how mean the global elites capitalist that put open border politicians into power are the good guys.
The Green movement isn't incompetent they know damn well what they're doing.
Also the green movement is demanding open borders as well and the idea that the global elites are capitalist is absurd.

Theyve been doing everything tear down capitalism in favor of a globalized fascist government to protect them and their interest.
Importing immigrants acts to get the public to have a knee jerk reaction and demand further government power over their lives.

Why is it frogs?

why do we have to let them in?

Yeah this. Deniers can never explain why any gov't (even the NWO) would need an excuse - especially one so 'implausible' - to tax. They never have before, why start now?

How much of a rube do you have to be to be utterly ignorant of the phrase "boiling frogs"?

Nope. Lots of life will exist in 1,000 years. Jsut - maybe - not our advanced civilisation. (I will miss it. :-(

"Better methods" maybe... but powered by what? Burning more coal? Oops!

You can always write me a letter to shitpost Aussie, don't worry.

Carbon taxation allows government to impose its will on every single aspect of the economy with one law while also allowing government to ration consumption at every level as they please with things like carbon credits.

You're also directly contradicting yourself.
Why wouldn't government pursue any avenue to fear monger the public into accepting more taxation?

Oh, please! Use the correct chart, at least - you know - the one with the sudden uptick at the right-hand edge that exceeds the last 400k years. Sheesh

>power bowl

I have a simple policy. If, for any reason whatsoever, the people trying to convince me of something lie to me, even once, I will assume that they are lying about everything automatically from that point forward.

So when I was told that 97% of scientists believed in anthrogenic climate change and I found out that that statistic was bullshit and fabricated by an Australian by dishonestly picking through papers written about climate change, I said "oh, they're fabricating data. They're probably lying."

And I was right. And when every computer model developed by Climatologists proved staggeringly, comically wrong, and I asked why, and it turns out that they were all "adjusting" their models by six times to try and portray a specific result, I said "oh, they're fabricating the data. They're probably lying." And lo and behold, California is not under water yet.

Every time that Climate Change advocates lie, I disregard everything they say. It is not my fault that your side lies every time you open your mouths. It is not my fault that you cannot tell the truth, that you cannot be honest with the data, that you feel the overwhelming compulsion to fabricate evidence of the worst-case scenario to try and affect political action. That's your fault. And when YOU do something wrong, it has consequences, and in this instance the consequence for lying constantly is that people stop believing you, got it?

This isn't just me. Your liberal bullshit of painting a picture of universal consensus to try and shame everyone else into submitting to your demands doesn't hold up anymore. Nobody believes this shit except virtue-signalling leftists, for everyone else it's just another talking point. You want me to believe? Go ten minutes without falsifying data.

>Imypling it isn't the other way around and the natural warming of the planet is creating CO2

wait what's the primary mechanism for that

We don't. We just don't like the agenda.

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Or the bad science.
coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2016/03/denying-the-climate-catastrophe-1-introduction.html

What question are you even trying to ask? Do I deny that the climate changes? No of course not. The question you are really asking is why do you deny that current human emissions have a large effect on the climate, and that these effects will be disastrous for humans on this planet.

I do believe that human emmisions of CO2 and other GHG have an impact on the climate and will cause world temperatures to rise in general. This is also what "skeptical" climate scientists believe. The main disagreement on this question is how large of an affect do humans have. This is still vary much up for debate, and the predictions are all over the map. Basically useless. I believe it is generally accepted that the warming effects are logarithmic, so most of the heating effects occur when the concentrations are low. ie you get more of a warming effect going from 0-100 ppm of CO2 than you would from 300-400.

As far as this warming being disastrous to humans, literally nothing has shown this so far.No increase in drought, no increase in floods, no increase in tornadoes, no increase in droughts. All the predictions are based on computer models which still suffer from the same problem the first issue had.

When ocean warm, they release CO2

What is warming the oceans?

A big ball of plasma at the center of the solar system.

Someone should do something about that thing. Nuke it or something.

Yesterday it rained, today it was cloudy. Nobody is denying, the climate changes all the time faggot.

Humans only produce 4% of the planet's CO2 anyway and Venus has a 95% CO2 atmosphere but when corrected for distance to the sun, THE TEMPERATURE IS THE SAME AS EARTH. Explain that.

The CO2 levels rising precisely because the globe is naturally warming because of the sun, what if the climatologists in the 80s were wrong and we're not actually moving towards another ice age but an interglacial period instead?

No shit the problem is greenhouse effect. But the real problem is niggers. Western world could easily adapt to increased CO2 levels, and probably see a net gain in global greening. But africa cant adapt and all the dumb africans that can't figure out how to farm will just run to europe.

Horsey horseshit.

highly transparent wealth redistribution efforts from commies that have infiltrated the UN and other globalist organizations.

I don't. I just do not care if humans are causing it or not.

Every prediction for the last 30 years has said we'd all be dead by this point, anyway. If we've already passed every red-line and are surely already extinct, why do I care?

The planet hasn't been shown to be a self-correct system for several billion years up to this point, has it?

Oh, it has? Jeez.

How the fuck does the greenhouse effect work anyway? When the sun isn't shining and it's cloudy, the temperature plummets. Instead, when our planet moves closer to the sun, it gets hotter.

Idiots pretend our orbit around the sun is fixed. It's not.

See link above. IPCC confirms wealth redistribution

To fuel the autism ITT,

If you would nuke the sun we would fly away into space in a straight line, nobody knows where we'd go or what would happen to our planet in the long run.
What would happen to us on eart is that we would still have about 20 minutes of sun left and then darkness forever.
It would be so cold we would have to live below the surface forever, on the surface it would be −459.67° fahrenheit or even less.

>muh frogs and water meme
youtube.com/watch?v=btpZ1UnGBaI

Exactly, to address Anthropogenic Climate Change is to address Income Inequality and class war fare; and the Elites doesn't want that.

Checked

Climate science today is basically working backwards. They already have their theory, so now they have to change the data to fit that theory. They are putting the cart before the horse. This is not science. It's honestly one of the main reasons I voted for Trump, and so far, I have not been disappointment. If Europe wants to subsidize more meme wind mills to increase their energy prices and drive business to the US, more power to them, but I don't want any of that shit here.

Are you fucking serious? Verhang jezelf, kanker vmbo'er

I only care about what will affect me, I vote for my own interests.

The climate is changing constantly and nothing is going to change that. Humans probably do have more of an affect, but what are we supposed to do, heave progress? No. Maybe if lefties didn't cancel NASA we could be looking to colonize Mars so if Earth does stall out, which it will inevitably do anyway, we'd have a backup plan.

I don't care if hundreds of years from now are going to be angry about what we did today. I won't be alive, and on top of that whatever is happening is going to happen naturally anyway. All that begins must end. That is the rule of life.

light has many spectrums that the human eye cannot see. Lightwaves come from the sun and hit the earth, greenhouse gasses reflect that light back to the surface instead of it bouncing back out into space. Light = heat, and the gasses are not spaced evenly around the world, so this won't be some sort of even temperature increase.

Overall this is a good thing for plants, but obviously if you are not smart enough to adapt your farming practises it can lead to lower crop yield.

It's not that I don't deny climate change, it's just that if it was as important or as drastic as so many people make it out to be there would be more of a push from the top to make changes in order to reverse a supposedly "end-of-the-world" scenario.

Instead all that's done is that governments impose or try to impose absolutely retarded carbon-credit bullshit or other kinds of lobbyist centered nastiness to try and make more money.

I'm just glad no one gives a shit about global warming anymore. It was an interesting meme while it lasted. I also kind of think we will start to go into a slight cooling phase soon, which should work out perfectly for the trump presidency

I say send all greens to africa to do good.

execute anyone for cap n trade
thats treason
exxcon guy will smoosh that crap once and for all
boto any judge ro professor that even mentions it

yes
social justice warriros always lie
export all of them
ban social justice from college

And I'm proud to be an American.....

>leading question
>addressing a separate and monolithic pol

You can be pretty sure something isn't right when the big global solution being proposed is ANOTHER FUCKING TAX.

Even if you buy the story, it's retarded. If we're so imminently in danger, why would we choose a system that allows any party to keep pumping the super duper dangerous carbon into our system, just so long as they (you) pay a tax or have the credits. All the costs of that system immediately and automatically gets passed down to us, the consumers.

Carbon tax = just another tax.

Cap and trade = yet another way for Wall St. to manipulate and speculate.

The nail in the coffin is that, we can be confident that when the discredited MSM is pushing yet another apocalyptic scare story, we can just assume by default that it's a scam to defraud taxpayers of their money (just like all those "pandemics" the media concocts).

One is forest fires and volcanoes.

Oh he said CO2 not Carbon Emissions.

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why don't you support green energy goyim? its for your own good

If you actually believe the NOAA statistics I hope you know that from 1895 to 1987 NOAA showed no warming in the US. Despite the crazy huge increase in CO2/other GHG emissions.

Although this article was from 1989 so I'm sure the data has been adjusted to fit their theory a great deal since then.

i don't care. I'll be long dead by the time it has any real effect