Are there enough Christians on Sup Forums to make this happen?
could theocracy work?
What religion are you?
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religions being taken over by Marxist and how to save them
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Christianity failed the West.
Time to try Islam.
I was born Mormon but don't follow the religion at all. That said, I do believe that momos have some of the most based cultural values. I don't really believe in any of the texts going back to the jew testament but I also know Christian values are vastly superior. Can't we just have A church based on Christian values without all the stupid stories?
Catholic. Fuck novus ordo.
fellow ssedevacantist? (im not sure if that's a word?)
Im a lifelong catholic and found SSPX through Sup Forums and have been doing a lot of research into Vatican 2 and the antipopes we have had since.
You idiot. Hitler despised catholics and would have stabbed you in the back after the war. KEK
who claimed to be a natsoc? not me certainly.
what is wrong with the stories?
I personally like them, and enjoy the lessons they have for us.
A united Christian group sounds like a good time to me.
Christian unity is a passion of mine.
We are one, holy, and apostolic after all.
Well i always knew the stories about the neophytes and Joseph smith were utterly ridiculous. On the other hand, I've never trusted the Catholic Church with their troubled history. Those are really the only two demonizations im familiar with. I don't trust them as institutions but love their values. What should I do user?
oh I misunderstood, I thought you were talking about the non-Mormon council of Nicea bible stories.
first you should pray
then listen for signs and answers
then look at the teachings of The Church that St. Peter built (pre Vatican 2)
look into why the current manifestation of the catholic church is not true Catholicism
let Jesus guide the way user.
Great, more schism for the Catholic Church ahead.
Why not just go Orthodox?
because we are all one Church my friend.
Unity is the goal. Unity through teaching, prayer and truth.
I would think Francis would unsettle a Sup Forums browser at least.
Haven't a fuckin' notion how Orthodox works.
Their services are infinitely more beautiful than ours, but honestly, who calls the shots? Is it the Greek lad or the Russian lad?
I really appreciate the advice user. I'm truly a lost soul that needs spiritual help.
Check out Latin masses in your area. They are also beautiful. I'm currently going to an orthodox church because Latin masses aren't held weekly in a location accessible to me, but the original Latin mass is a thing of beauty. Worth checking out.
>Is it the Greek lad or the Russian lad?
Why does it have to be one person. What is this fetish?
or a smug troll. the world will never know.
Because Jesus gave the keys to His Kingdom on earth to one man (St Peter) to safeguard and pass on.
>Unity is the goal.
Sedeancantism is the opposite of unity. Didn't they get excommunicated at some point?
Please explain how this justifies papal infallibility.
the end goal here is the restoration of true Catholic identity and practice. The current mass and most clergy are illegitimate. most people are unaware of this even being possible. Unity in the truth. You cant convert everyone, but you can tell everyone the truth.
Just don't understand how it works at all.
I.E. if I got to a Greek Orthodox church, am I having the same experience as a Russian Orthodox church? etc.
Catholic church is the same everywhere.
I'm totally ignorant of this.
Which do you advise the Tridentine and Novus Ordo Latin mass ?
>Catholic church is the same everywhere.
Lies.
infallibility is one of the most misunderstood doctrines of faith. ill reference you to catholic answers even though im not fond of their stuff.
catholic.com
Don't bother with with a political movement. Just create a social movement, and the political movement will come naturally thereafter.
>Lies
Eh? The program, and prayers are the same whether I go to mass in Spain, Peru of the Philippines. The only difference is the language. The content is the same.
Tridentine
lol so much difference even in novus ordo masses
>the end goal here is the restoration of true Catholic identity and practice.
This was also the perception of Luther.
That didn't pan out.
look at pre Vatican 2 Catholicism and post
one is decidedly more Marxist and anti traditionalist
not true, we aren't trying to leave the Catholic church we are trying to revert it to its pure and beautiful form.
>we aren't trying to leave the Catholic church
Neither did Luther. But it worked out that way.
Hopefully this doesn't.
Can I ask what faith you belong to user?
I know I am a Christian but I have no idea what denomination I would fit into. Where can I go to find where I'm best suited?
its not about what best suits you user, God doesn't work like that.
To be honest I cannot decide which is correct. That is why I am being a little antagonistic on the matter.
Honestly, despite it's failings Roman Catholicism has the most logic of the churches.
Anyone who points to the absolute concrete fact of the bible is to be avoided.
Im not complaining. Any opportunity I have to talk about and expand my perspective on faith and its role in my community and personal life is awesome.
If you are on the fence then I feel like us Catholic purists have a lot to offer you. But of course I would say that. keep searching user. and pray.
Matthew 16:18 New International Version (NIV)
"18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it."
How do sedevacantists defend this?
Well, how do I find a church then? How do I found a community to discuss the faith?
Do you guys think jerking off is a sin? Honestly this is the hardest thing 4 me like just doing it for biologixal reasons not just pleasure
The homily is improvised
google? the Christian Generals that I want to see here? imo pre Vatican 2 Catholicism is the only true Christian religion.
Masturbation is sinful, yes, as is viewing pornography. Of course sin can be forgiven, but to truly repent you must fully regret it. If you're a bit younger it's understandable but I would at the very least seek to stop watching porn (do it without visual aids) and slow down the frequency of how much you do it.
Religions being taken over by marxists isn't that hard to fix. You engage people, and have conservatives elected into the positions of power. We're doing that in sweden right now, and it's working. Our seats has doubled in each of the last few elections, and will likely be doubled the next year too. Party politics and church is mixed here, so you basically have an election that's like the regular election, except it's about who gets influence over the church.
This won't work for the Catholic church, obviously, but getting more conservatives in locally should still work. There's no alternative to engagement and engaging others.
Lutheran Evangelical btw., hi everyone.
lots of good info here user
novusordowatch.org
the trips of truth.
>Improvised
If you're lucky. Mostly it's a script with segments, mixed in from the local population.
Welcome, I agree wholeheartedly friend. at a parish in a city youre lucky if its that even.
Not religious
>would still stand with my Christian brothers against the degenerates
I'm more interested in alchemy and paganism than I am in Christianity but I respect Christians and my Christian brothers. I like reading the Bible, it's enjoyable. Theocracies can work but through the king given a mandate by god to rule.
where the fuck is bosnia and herzgovina? Why haven't I even seen that flag before
are you trolling?
or just young?
In the Balkans, I believe it neighbors Croatia and Serbia is I recal correctly
*if I recall
here is some entertaining reading for you
en.wikipedia.org
sedevacantism is heresy and wrong. SSPX isn't sedevacantist.
>look at pre Vatican 2 Catholicism and post
one is decidedly more Marxist and anti traditionalist
What is your take on "Liberation theology"? It's progressively taking over in Spain (At least around where I am).
not specifically but they do the original mass in some areas
not super familiar with it desu. I googled it just now and it sounds like commie bs but im not able to form an opinion currently.
>Christfags trying to hijack NS again
Every verse about "Deus Vult" has another about laying down like a cuck and abhorring achievement, to the point of praying for the end of all humanity on Earth. True National Socialism rejected it for a reason.
>novusordowatch.org
"the First Vatican Council does not teach that there will always be a Pope."
They don't *need* a pope.
This is schism in the making. I see no end game here.
Come back to the Orthodox Church, brothers, the ancient and true Catholic and Apostolic Church.
so im making a pastebin, although its woefully not ready to be used and I have to depart soon.
pastebin.com
any good Christian soldiers want to help out and make this happen? Ive love discussing with you all and look forward to doing so again.
*loved
>2016
>Willing worshipping the Demiuge
Wow.
SSPX priests are forbidden from holding sedevacantist views. The tridentine mass is not the original mass, it came about in 1570 because of Pope St. Pius V.
did the orthodox church not become a thing because of a schism?
Was certainly one of the better conversations on POL in a long time.
>The tridentine mass is not the original mass, it came about in 1570 because of Pope St. Pius V.
Any idea what went before?
op, you should check out 4+4 chan /christian/
They are officially forbidden yes, but can anybody but God dictate the truth you hold in your heart?
>the tridentine mass is not the original mass
yeah but it sure beats that novus ordo nonsense
I dig it, trying to bring some of the fun to this place. so much cancer here lately.
No. I don't really know all that much.
You should study this history.
The East and the West did not really meaningfully distinguish from each other until the 4th Crusade with the sacking of Constantinople.
It is the West which tore the Church asunder.
When a Christian stands up publicly, uncucks themself, and goes full 1488 then I will consider converting.
Until then, remember that the only people who have done this are Asatru/agnostic/atheist
Sorry, didn't think to google here is a quote:
>On the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons.
I did a little bit, but to be honest my information is probably slanted because I learned about it in a catholic school a long time ago. link me to some good stuff?
Stop trying to jew people from their faith. That's not what this thread is about.
Hitler lost to the godless Communist's for a reason: Odilo Globocnik
How accurate is this?
But is the division so great?
Under Roman Catholic "rule" I am allowed to take Communion from an Orthodox mass if there is no Roman Catholic churches around. I did this when I was in Eastern Russia, no one batted an eye.
using the salsa scale;
its mild to tomato juice senpai.
bookmarked, I have to wageslave soon
thanks
Accurate.
well ladies and gents its been a wonderful time, and I am saddened to leave. We really must do this again. I've loved this discussion, and plan on making this a regular thing.
never stop seeking the truth
never stop praying
God Bless you all
The Christian God is one of unconditional love and endless mercy and humility. Why would any "Christian" espouse national socialism?
And just to be clear, you can't convert with such hatred in your heart. You will never know enter into God's everlasting kingdom without truly putting life to Jesus' words.
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”