Redpill me on Damascus Steel.
Is it the King of Steel? Is it really t3h W00tz? Is it any stronger than normal steel, is what's sold today even similar to Damascus Steel in anything but appearance? Is it worth the premium?
I want to get a friend of mine a Damascus Steel Knife, but I'm not sure if I should. What do you guys think?
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It's more corrosion resistant than normal carbon steel
Carbon steel of the time period was stronger
Isn't damascus just made from pressing cable steel into a solid ingot? With the bladesmith adding some obligatory etch pattern to the blade so that hipster knife collectors spend double what it's worth?
I feel like it's probably no different than if you were to say... start out with a solid ingot of the target hardness to begin with.
What? Damascus steel is just steel made from scraps.
You throw a bunch of scrap steel and steel powder in a tube, heat it all up untill it melts, then use the resulting billet for smithing.
Its no better than forged steel, and in many ways worse.
Today's Damascus isn't real Damascus
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Damascus knife fanboys BTFO
It would be cooler if you bought him something he could feasibly crusade with.
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Stone is the redpill.
Nothing beats it.
Before we got good at steel it was a way of compromising between toughness, hardness etc. Modern steel is so good it generally won't be any better but that only holds true in the same price range. A $100 regular blade would probably be better than a 100 dollar Damascus. They are pretty though which is nice
Damascus Steel is when two different grades of steel, with different carbon content, are layered, welded, and folded several times to create a rippling pattern in the steel. Stories of Damascus Steel from the Medieval period and earlier ascribe almost supernatural properties to the metal.
Unless you are like using these ultra hardened steel blades for like actual military battles, it makes sense to buy cheaper blades made of cheaper steel if you are going to actually use it in a utilitarian fashion.
Like I buy cheapass folding knives to use at work and because the steel is relatively soft I can service the blade using a 5 dollar knife sharpening block from Walmart.
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>Is it the King of Steel?
Of it's time yes, it's crucible steel if I recall, very hard
>Is it really t3h W00tz?
Closest thing there was to the process I think
>Is it any stronger than normal steel, is what's sold today even similar to Damascus Steel in anything but appearance? Is it worth the premium?
Not sure if today's process with steel overpowers Damascus, but if it's real Damascus, it's ok in quality I guess
>Stories of Damascus Steel from the Medieval period and earlier ascribe almost supernatural properties to the metal.
Yeah, Excalibur and Valyrian Steel is all based on this
You should also check out Toledo Steel OP
Its basic carbon steel. We don't use that metal working practice today, because we can make high carbon steel with other methods.
Modern damascus is not exactly like true damascus (forging technique has been lost).
No such thing as the "king of steel". Just the right alloy for the right person doing the right job in the right environment at the right price.
Not politics.
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>t3h W00tz
To me it seems like damascus steel is like how warriors used to forge blades out of meteoric iron thinking it gave it magical properties.
There's no magic. Damascus is for fags. Just like meteoric iron.
>Implying that Weaponry is unrelated to politics
Damascus Steel is designed to have a marbled appearance, like the image in the original post.
Will do, thank you.
No. A shitload of smithing is done with different carbon content steel. You traditionally want softer steel for the core and spine, and harder for the edge. You would not call that damascus steel though.
Multiple folds actually increase the chances of welds coming apart, and would lead to lower quality blades.
People in the middle ages were retarded, and thought the pretty pattern made it more powerful. I fully admit, it looks nicer, but it really is shit tier compared to forged ingots.
Damascus is just multiple different grades of steel and welded into billet then forged into whatever. Nobody with the slightest knowledge of metalwork or weapons believes any of the mythical BS, it's just sexy looking metal.
Isn't that just the "modern" reproduction? I mean no one knows how the hell those things were made right?
Reread what I said.
It is a method of patterning a blade through the use of different grades of steel, welding, and folding.
And what about A E S T H E T I C S ?
I thought Damascus was crucible steel, and those things were hard as fuck to forge
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Like if you are going for an ornamental blade, then I guess it does look pretty nice (Although to my knowledge most of the pattern is etching done after the fact, so you are just getting taken for a fool).
Sadly military blades, utility blades, and ornamental blades all have different requirements so there's no such thing as a"best steel".
Fedora tier katana cultists rubbish.
I cringe when I see a neckbeard with anything made of "Damascus" steel. You're paying extra to have wavy lines put into your steel
It's a knife - it's not a zexhander. Calm down. I don't think he's going to be locking blades with anyone any time soon.
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If I had to guess the unique properties came from some combination of alchemy/quantum mechanics.
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damascus steel was pretty great, it doesn't compare at all to what is made today though. It is -NOT- Billet steel
It was pretty good steel, sourced from India.
But it had no special properties beyond the decorative.
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As somebody who actually uses knives in a utilitarian fashion...
I use pic related.
Cost me 20 CAD at Cabelas, came with a cute collector tin, nice comfy wood grip, made of cheap chink steel which like I said; is servicable with a 5 dollar knife sharpening block that I got from walmart forever ago.
Harder steel tends to chip instead of just delining like softer steel. so unless you are cutting diamonds with your knives, don't get jewed.