Libertarians in the 1970's: >private property rights is the most important of all >private property includes the right to exclude whoever you wish, be it for racial or religious reasons >also includes the right to set standards in privately owned communities >wanted to stop government socialization because they thought it was creating a morally weak and dependent populace >racial realists >thought that government was interfering with the natural order and family structure, and that libertarianism would bring a return to conservative values and natural hierarchies
Libertarians now: >mainly it in for the drugs and gay sex >think that libertarianism now means "everyone has the right to be included everywhere"; the concept of exclusion from your private property seems to have become very unpopular >don't understand that a return to the conservative order was the primacy goal of libertarianism in the mid 20th century
Seriously, what on earth happened? Libertarians went from being very conservative (fearing that government structures would lead to a breakdown in traditional family units and morality) to being practically indistinguishable from super liberal globalists
This is why you stay away from egalitarianism. Sooner or later you end up with "am I being detained" and "what's a leppo?"
Landon Davis
This
Benjamin Brown
Gary Johnson happened
Justin Perry
why di they run him against romney and mcain then. Johnson is anti gin and pro hatespeech laws. he has no respect for property rights.
Jack Sanchez
Do Libertarians support military conscription?
Jayden Johnson
Pretty much this. Libertarianism has quite a deep philosophical and literary history people like John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, John Stuart Mill, Friedrich Bastiat, Hayek, even Barry Goldwater.
Agreed in part. I think a lot of old hippies just became libertarian because they wanted the police to get away from their pot plants and that's how the modern libertarian party became the "Duuuude Weeeeed" party.
Angel Rogers
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Cameron Gray
Leppo
Jack Stewart
>indistinguishable from liberals Read the political spectrum. Johnson got booed off the stage for not being libertarian enough, but ron paul was dead in the water due to being "racist" for opposing government intervention in businesses.
Kevin Robinson
Badnarik was the last real Libertarian. > Constitutional Law scholar > Staunch support of property rights > Staunch support of individual liberties > Minarchist > Understood the concept of a Republic > Hated/denounced democracy.
Party's been dead ever since.
Daniel Wilson
2024 is our year boys!
Kayden Scott
OP, you have it all wrong. Libertarians now realize that it is too late to worry about the ideology as we could in the past. They knew all along that this is what would happen. We are in a very bad place now. Our future depends on someone who can see through all the bullshit at the same time that they try to compete with AI systems and other all-knowing databases that are currently at the mercy of DOD contractors that control every aspect of our government. We need to start focusing on the real issue at hand. If we, as a people, don't gain control soon, it will be too late to ever make a difference regardless of Sup Forums and the likes. This isn't about Libertarian philosophy anymore. This is about keeping America from becoming what it seems so desperately and bound to. We have to wake up and realize that we have been sold out. My only hope is MAGA.
Charles Thompson
DUDE WEED LMAO
Anthony Watson
Nice shot NSA.
Levi Thompson
Libertarianism is succeeding to based authoritarianism. Man is degenerate for self rule, so order must be enforced by those with the will to exert moral authority.
Grayson Carter
>only a government can coerce with force! >even if your robbed at gun point by a private company it's still your choice!
Libertarians were always retarded, you just see it more clearly now.
Oliver Morris
What's sad is that libertarianism (at least in the mid 20th century US) was never about egalitarianism. In fact, it was pretty much the exact OPPOSITE. That, without government interference, the people of better ability would naturally rise ahead.
Wyatt White
No one has ever said either of those things.
Jaxson Richardson
Lurk more.
Connor Davis
The internet happened.
Oliver Smith
GARY JOHNSON IS NOT A LIBERTARIAN
Bentley Powell
good thing libertarianism fixed it
Grayson Price
Or maybe you should stop making things up. I've almost certainly been exposed to more libertarians than you. And no one says that.
No. No one does, I support the idea of conscription length deployment time without most of the benefits.
Joshua Davis
That's why I'm saying to lurk more, all of the libertards on here would agree with both of those statements
Bentley Gutierrez
Looks as if OP is 2.5
Ethan Hill
Johnson was is an FSB asset sent to discredit the Libertarian party.
>tfw we are now the DUDE WEED party.
Carson Bennett
Here's a quote by Hoppe I love
>In any case, what should be clear by now is that most if not all of the moral degeneration and cultural rot—the signs of decivilization—all around us are the inescapable and unavoidable results of the welfare state and its core institutions. Classical, old-style conservatives knew this, and they vigorously opposed public education and social security. They knew that states everywhere were intent upon breaking down and ultimately destroying families and the institutions and layers and hierarchies of authority that are the natural outgrowth of family based communities in order to increase and strengthen their own power. They knew that in order to do so states would have to take advantage of the natural rebellion of the adolescent (juvenile) against parental authority. And they knew that socialized education and socialized responsibility were the means of bringing about this goal. Social education and social security provide an opening for the rebellious youth to escape parental authority (to get away with continuous misbehavior). Old conservatives knew that these policies would emancipate the individual from the discipline imposed by family and community life only to subject it instead to the direct and immediate control of the state. Furthermore, they knew, or at least had a hunch, that this would lead to a systematic infan-tilization of society—a regression, emotionally and mentally, from adulthood to adolescence or childhood.
Eli Sullivan
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Oliver Carter
The Libertarian Party needs to be taken over the way Frauke Petry took over the AfD in Germany.
Gavin Thomas
a funny one
>Or imagine that in your own country the right to vote were expanded to seven year olds. While the government would not likely be staffed of children, its policies would most definitely reflect the "legitimate concerns" of children to have "adequate and "equal" access to "free" french fries, lemonade, and videos.
Jason Sanders
Murray Rothbard wrote about this, and was the reason why he left the Libertarian Party despite being one of the founding members. Basically they tried to expand their base by appealing to leftists and the big problem they encountered was that it worked. Thing is all the leftists they brought in had zero interest in libertarianism or Randian "we must empower men to reach their full potential" mindsets and insisted that libertarianism was really about anal sex and marijuana.
Zachary Diaz
>Seriously, what on earth happened?
Jonathan Kelly
There's nothing conservative about Protestant/Jewish worship of money
