CATHOLIC GENERAL
Everyone is welcome.
Discuss news, ask question, give answers, be kind to one another, and above all assist one another in living the virtuous life. As usual, I will be assisting with answering questions and helping people out. I recommend you do the same.
List of recommended Christian movies, music, and books in the following posts. Feel free to add to the lists.
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Christian music list here. Pic is movies list.
>Marvin Gaye's "God is Love"
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>Woven Hand's "My Russia"
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>Om's Pilgrimage Album
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>Sufjan Steven's "No Shade in the Shadow of the Cross"
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>mewithoutyou - Sun and Moon
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>Young Oceans - ONLY YOU
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>Bobby McFerrin's Joshua
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>Psalter's Lord's Prayer
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>Janelle Monae's Victory
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>Johnny Cash's God's Gonna Cut You Down
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>Nick Drake - Pink Moon
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>Mary Lou Williams - Anima Christi
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>Dr. C.J. Johnson's "You Better Run"
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>Judee Sill's Heart Food
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>Dave Bixby's "Free Indeed"
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>The Revolutionary Army of the Infant Jesus' "Beauty After the Fall"
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Hymns
>A nice Latin hymn
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>Nice Orthodox hymn
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>A nice Coptic hymn
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>18th century English hymn
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>The Lord's Prayer in Swahili, done in song.
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>A nice collection of South Pacific Island hymns from the movie The Thin Red Line
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>Hail Mary in Latin, done in song.
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>Hallelujah Chorus done suddenly in the public
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>Quality Icelandic hymn
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Reposting my Apostolic Christianity recommended books:
>GENERAL
The Bible (Ignatius Study Bible Recommended)
The catechism of your denomination
>accepted English versions of Bible
NABRE
Douay Rheims
RSV
>THEOLOGY
>novice
Introduction to Christianity by Joseph Ratzinger
Scholastic Metaphysics by Edward Feser
The Last Superstition by Edward Feser
The Everlasting Man by G.K. Chesterton
Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton
Mere Christianity
CATHOLICISM by Robert Barron
The Orthodox Way by Kallistos Ware
Outlines of Moral Theology by Francis J. Connell
>intermediate
God: His Existence and His Nature by Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange
Natural Theology by Bernard Boedder
The Spirit of Medieval Philosophy by Etienne Gilson
Against Heresies
City of God
Christianity for Modern Pagans
The Mystical Theology of the Eastern Church
>advanced
Apologia Pro Vita Sua
Summa Contra Gentiles
Summa Theologiae
On the Incarnation
The Didache
Divine Names by Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite
Part 1/2
Part 2/2
>SPIRITUAL LIFE
>novice
The Introduction to the Devout Life by St. Francis de Sales
Story of a Soul by St. Therese
The Seven Storey Mountain by Thomas Merton
Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future by Fr Seraphim Rose
Nihilism - Fr Seraphim Rose
>intermediate
The Interior Castle
Spiritual Exercises by St. Ignatius
Dialogues by St. Catherine of Sienna
True Devotion to Mary
True Devotion to the Holy Spirit
>advanced
The Cloud of Unknowing
The Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross
The Desert Fathers
The Philokalia
The Ladder of Divine Ascent
New Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas Merton
The Imitation of Christ by Thomas Kempis
>MEMETICS
Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World by Rene Girard
I See Satan Fall Like Lightning by Rene Girard
>HISTORICAL/BIOGRAPHICAL
Rome Sweet Home
The Long Loneliness by Dorothy Day
After Virtue
Christendom I: Founding of Christendom
Theology and Social Theory by John Millbank
Ethics and the Limits of Philosophy by Bernard Williams
Life of St.Anthony by Saint Athanasius
Life of St Francis of Assisi by Saint Bonaventure
Silouan the Athonite by Archimandrite Sophrony
The Autobiography of St. Ignatius Loyol
>FICTION
Don Quixote
The Divine Comedy
Paradise Lost
Silence by Shusaku Endo
A Canticle for Leibowitz
Faust
Les Miserables
The Canterbury Tales
The Man Who Was Thursday
The Brothers Karamazov
A Man for All Seasons
The Pillars of the Earth
The Lord of the Rings
The Chronicles of Narnia
Lord of the World
Parzifal
Joseph of Arimathea: A Romance of the Grail
The Arthurian Cycle
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Given the rising Orthodox population on Sup Forums I wanted to create an Apostolic Christianity General. If you're Orthodox, I wanted to ask: What of my general post in could be added onto to add the Orthodox as well?
This is a Kekist board, OP.
Take your blasphemy to /his/.
At least you bumped the thread.
No Kingdom of Heaven? No The Seventh Seal? What is up with this list?
happy now?
The Seventh Seal is on that and Kingdom of Heaven is bullshit and fedora much of the time.
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I got into Orthodoxy after watching:
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I know the videos are long but they are absolutely worth it. Pic related arrived today.
>If you're Orthodox, I wanted to ask:
I'm not, I can't decide what I am. I am culturally Catholic (done all sacraments), but I see a lot of problems with the modern church which lead me to question some of its decision in the past.
Especially the fact that the Orthodox Church has never has a schism. This may seem like arbitrary but I believe the 4th Crusade was the turning point where the East and West consciously fell apart. It is not the Church's fault, but the tearing asunder was initiated by the West when the Crusaders sacked Constantinople.
Since then, the Catholic Church in the West has fractured several times and the currect situation with Vatican II and SSPX is looking like it could fragment even further.
For these reasons I am thinking of being initiated in the Orthodox Church (I am not a practising Christian yet), or maybe even in Islam (though they seem joyless in their worship).
Tbh, the claim that a church's origins are from biblical times is pretty meaningless. Every non protestant group (Orthodox, Catholic, Oriental) says that they're the original one. All of the protestants say that they're the only non corrupt church despite many of them draining their congregations of shekels. Not to say that tracing your theological roots isn't important, but it comes off as disingenuous to say claim that anyone has unchanged doctrine when the world and how people practice has changed so much in 2000 years.
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>everyone is welcome
That's why your religion sucks
>the world and how people practice has changed so much in 2000 years.
I don't believe this is true.
The mass has changed for everyone except in Orthodoxy.
I don't believe in any religion, but I surely won't believe in one created by the kikes.
On my way to fuck your shit
>Ayo, fuck the papacy, man
>this user
Why yes, thank you. It's important to keep conversations in their own respective threads.
Now as for Catholicism over Orthodoxy, the key decision for me is one of authority, as it should be for anyone. The substance of the primacy of St. Peter - whether the office is primary in a honorary or mechanical sense - seems fairly one-sided from my research to side with a mechanical understanding. Theologically, the church's distinctions from the Catholic Church are hardly substantial and all seem within the scope of the Catholic Church or end up basically being semantic differences . Because of this I still have a lot of respect for the Orthodox church to be able to lead people to salvation but I do not find their claim to authority valid and so do not find them entirely correct.
From what I understand, and I may be wrong, the Orthodox Christians did change their mass and practice over time, which lead to an "Old Believers" sect which broke off from the main church.
I can tell this is from Protestant source because it is a dishonest characterisation.
Let me offer something. The idea of Abrogation wasn't used until the 9th century. The concept is not mentioned in Quran or Hadith.
(((Kingdom of Heaven)))
Oh really this is very interesting. Can you offer a link for this? I know there are nationalistic and cultural differences but not something like changing the mass!
>no schisms within Orthodoxy
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orthodoxwiki.org
I agree with you on the 4th crusade though. The Council of Florence seemed set to resolve the east-west schism but fell apart with the collapse of Constantinople. It was terrible.
>religion encompasses literally everything
>it sucks that everyone is allowed to be in it
Vlad please.
>fuck your shit
You mean destroy Christendom and monasteries.
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Christians and Catholics have to work together to get rid of kek on this board.
>hate jews
>worship a jew
Explain.
>it sucks that everyone is allowed to be in it
sharing your Church with spics, negroes, asians and semites. Cool
>Kek
Kek and worship of are just memes, m8.
the moral of the story is that Christianity is the truth and islam is a lie
so you do believe in the papal infallibility on matters of scripture/doctrine?
>>no schisms within Orthodoxy
Do any of these still exist?
Yes it is. All creation is welcome within the church as the church is a hospital for sinners. We cannot bind all things to the body of Christ without welcoming all things. This does not decide how we understand how things are biologically or whatever else you'd like to get into but there should be no rejection of God's creation.
>not a single example of gregorian chant
Weak m8
Lets be honest here, the failure of the catholic church was placing authority in man over God
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Yes, I understand that the Quran mentions punishment a lot. But I don't understand the argument that this makes it a lie?
>CATHOLIC GENERAL
>Everyone is welcome.
>Discuss news, ask question, give answers, be kind to one another, and above all assist one another in living the virtuous life. As usual, I will be assisting with answering questions and helping people out. I recommend you do the same.
>List of recommended Christian movies, music, and books in the following posts. Feel free to add to the lists.
This is a great site
The Catholic Encyclopedia
The scholarship behind the material is outstanding.
Om is highly inspired by Gregorian chants. Any chants you'd recommend?
Yes
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That comes hand-in-hand with the belief of primacy having mechanical power between offices, so yes.
u wot
That doesn't make sense at all.
What are you talking about, m8?
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>Lets be honest here, the failure of the catholic church was placing authority in man over God
The Roman Catholic church does no such thing.
You reach such suppositions through a lack of knowledge.
I like this site too and have never thought to add it.
Good idea!
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it was founded by an illiterate warlord who fucked 9 year olds for starters
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> go to nice nondenominational Christian camp for many years
> get to old to be camper
> apply for job there
> have allot of fun working there
> meet a fun crowd, seem to love their faith
> they're complete narcissist drug doing degenerates
> three are gay and the women feminist whores
>tfw
The Old Believers movement is just something I remember from reading up on Russian history as opposed to in depth studying the subject. According to this link [ factsanddetails.com
The broader point is that as time goes on people will always find differences and change how they do things, even when trying to keep to the old ways.
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>en.wikipedia.org
Oh dear. I was hoping this was the answer to the true Church. Now things get messy, it is some combination of East and West. I think that subconsciously I was delaying this information from myself.
Japethians = Europeans are saved
Hamites and Semites = the rest are doomed
Go back to kissing feets, cuck
Hey guise, I'm doing a lot of research on the history of marriage and relationships in the US and I'm trying to find info on pre-marriage interactions between men and women, how courting worked, how common pre-marital sex and cheating were, non-amorous relations between men and women, general views of the public on sex... and you got the drill. That kind of stuff. The culture of relationships, particularly among kids (18-26yos).
Do you guise have any info, preferably books, on the matter? I've been searching but to be honest I don't even know what search terms to use, it's such a tricky thing.
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>build by Europeans
>now negroes and gooks pray there
Magical
Yeaaaah. She totally would love all the shitskins in French Cathedrals...
>an illiterate warlord who fucked 9 year olds for starters
According to who?
The Quran says that girls could only be wed after puberty (24:59).
>according to who
Mohammed
oh I like this. I'm getting all of this.
also again Catholic brethren. I just wanna see some more juden hate akin to martin luther from you. seems like you guys are in bed with the zionists.
Whoa, Wolfshiem, you're back? How have you been? What you have been up to?
I'm been slowly getting better. I still drink but I've cut back a lot and lost a lot of weight. I'm trying to go to church a lot more. I go to a monthly Catholic young adult group now.
Glad to see you bad...inspires me to rededicate myself.
Grew up Christian. Family was very devote and took the teachings seriously. I couldn't play any cool video games and Pokemon was banned during the time period not owning Pokemon cards was like having a gaping pus oozing head wound.
Grew to resent Christianity and church and became edgy atheist. Got in constant shouting matches with family trying to show them God isn't real.
Fast forward 15 years family is still very close and they all married in the church and have lots of kids. 3 per sibling on average. Common decency is being eroded every single day and I begin to see the benefits of the Church and the community.
I still don't believe in Christ but I appreciate all Christianity has done to help mold this nation and how lost we can become without it. Without some standard of morality, the powers that be will constantly chip and eat away the fabric of this nation.
I support America being a Christian nation. Even if I don't personally have faith.
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>Mohammed
He does not.
Here i am, servant of the Lord
What about the Massacre of the Latins, which provoked the Venetians into starting the 4th Crusade?
And if the Orthodox Church has never had schisms, why do the Old Believers exist?
Yes, you are right. It is more complicated than I thought.
I was expecting something special and exotic from the Orthodox Church and I was mistaken.
here i am the servant of the lord.
Also, finally a catholic general thats not orthodox (though those guys are cool, its just not my vibe)
Catholics are not called to avoid judgement of others, we are called to judge well. The entire purpose of considering ones own "block" before anothers is to ensure the judgement and followup condemnation is not based on raw emotions like pathetic liberals or weak SJW faggots.
Rather, when god calls us to judge, as judgment or attribution is an inevitable part of human reality. he asks us to do so with mercy and forgiveness in heart.
In the end, white people would be (slightly smarter) niggers if we acted like them. But we do not, the glory of our ethnicity is in the history our forefathers carved out by an attitude of humility towards the sciences, of dignity and respect for all men of all walks of life, an appreciation for hard but honest labor and a love of all things that exemplify and uplift life.
they did this by condemning degeneracy, aiming for the best possible position in the world, or if your interested in a trade, becoming the best in the trade. By studying the world because god made it to be understood. By supporting the family over the individual and allowing sacrifice, forgiveness and mercy to trump the evils in spirit that come from a closed selfishness, arrogance, or the pursuit of irrational 'justice'.
Our heritage is truly great and we must bear the load and become great ourselves
Hey guys, this seems kind of weird to ask strangers over the internet... but can you pray for me? I've been struggling with addiction for the past few years and while it has gotten better, I need grace to carry on.
Pax
1/4 of the way through RCIA. Went from being apathetically secular from childhood to age 15, evangelical from 15 to 21, and now have found the true church.
>tfw all my grandparents are Russian orthodox
>dis gun be good
God bless you brothers.
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Will I get a nice qt3.14 Catholic gf now?
I will pray for you leaf. Even if I think my words fall on deaf ears. Addiction is a terrible thing.
attend a tridentine/ latin mass user, look it up and see if there are any priests around. Its somewhat exotic for a mass but, there are no words. The beauty of the mass is beyond comprehension, you will understand by watching.
The sense of christs presence, the history, everything is palpable
I just went to confession for the first time in 5 years. I cried. Feels good man :)
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It may seem weird leaf but god knows who you are and he knows me when i pray. Its easy to forget but I may never come to know who it is i am praying for but god knows and he is the one in charge.
God bless, hope these words helped. Prayers to follow
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>The entire purpose of considering ones own "block" before anothers is to ensure the judgement and followup condemnation is not based on raw emotions like pathetic liberals or weak SJW faggots.
I hadn't thought of that before. Kek bless this post.
Hang in there user. Also for those looking for reading material amazon.com
absolutely fantastic user, know the feeling
ill pray for you
also if i could get some prayres for my Dad, he seems to have constant pain in his stomach, or intestines or something. I hate hearing people suffer.
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I am Catholic but have problems with the Leftist Marxist Pope we have. He is leading the Church to destruction by not opposing Islam and the migrant flood into Europe.
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Soon, Ivan. Soon.
When the pope says all that stuff, he is not speaking on behalf of the church but rather on his own behalf. Thus it is fallible.
The only churches that strictly prohibit gay marriage: Orthodox, catholic, most evangelical churches
Stay away from heretical Protestant churches such a state the Anglican Church (they allow transgender priests)
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>Japethians = Europeans are saved
>Hamites and Semites = the rest are doomed
Where is that in the bible?
>being interested in Christianity is fair content for a politically incorrect board.
What's wrong with our culture?
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>not opposing Islam
"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day" (CCC 841).
Think about it. Over the past 2 decades what has all the television and comedies been about? Softly mocking Christianity and pushing agendas of the queers/minorities/liberals. Always careful not to prod hard enough to get a real response, just enough to take a jab and finish off with a joke. We allowed this to happens over 2 generations without opposition and guess what? It worked. Shit like Will and Grace and Queer eye for the straight guy were pushed on everyday Americans. Challenging anyone to push back so they could say "haha look at this silly over reacting christian conservative! It is just a joke."
Recently they have gotten more and more bold as the aging conservative population lost control of the media and the internet. Meanwhile those on the fence began facing ridicule and even the termination of their occupations for not accepting the hyper liberal PC culture being forced down our throats.
They have been taking inch by inch daring us to openly oppose them. Not we are at the breaking point and hopefully the pendulum has enough forced to get us back to something resembling sanity.
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