Communism

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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How will people give up religion?

It doesn't seem like they ever will.

Which discredits Marxist predictions for the future.

lol
sage

Rejection of God creates Communists, not the other way around and Atheism is the fastest dying religion in the world

Exactly.

Superstitions are becoming less rewarding (as a placebo) as we progress technologically but it's important to keep giving people a good education all of their lifes (less educated have more religious tendency).

>Superstitions
As old as humanity.
While primitive communism existed in the past, humanity has always been superstitions and wanted the divine.
Do you see how this is problematic for the proletariat, trapped by themselves?
Fits into the broader problem of class consciousness which exists on the fringe only, not in the depth of a Marxist understanding of it.

Again, religion prevents emancipation and it is insurmountable.

Checkmate Marxists.

Fuck off. It was concluded that it's a failure 25 years ago.

Superstition thrives in ignorance, people need to learn to be scientifically skeptic and learn the facts about the world we live in, I don't want to live in a world filled with ignorance ,you have the muslim middle east as an example.

Another wrong idea is that you need religion to be good and happy, that's not true.

Kek does not tolerate leftist degeneracy on his board.

Begone, red devil.

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Only when their material needs are satisfied, and people have learned to live in reality. Frankly nobody I know my age is religious, everyone bar 1 in my family is irreligious.

Arise ye workers from your slumbers
Arise ye prisoners of want
For reason in revolt now thunders
And at last ends the age of cant.
Away with all your superstitions
Servile masses arise, arise
We’ll change henceforth the old tradition
And spurn the dust to win the prize.

So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.

No more deluded by reaction
On tyrants only we’ll make war
The soldiers too will take strike action
They’ll break ranks and fight no more
And if those cannibals keep trying
To sacrifice us to their pride
They soon shall hear the bullets flying
We’ll shoot the generals on our own side.

So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.

Get reading, cunts. Drop your Evola "Feels > Reals" shit.

>autism: the post

Just went to my neices baptism today. All my immediate family, plus a dozen more showed up to a Lutheran church built by my ancestors in the 1800's. Everyone in my family took communion.

On thanksgiving I made my entire family (6 adults and 3 children) hold hands in a circle and recite the Lord's prayer.

We will keep it alive across the pond, your little island of inbreds is quite irrelevent. Especially regarding social output.

HELLO TERRAN REPUBLIC SCUM, HOW DOES IT FEEL UNDER MY FREEDOM BOOT?

>Only when their material needs are satisfied

So never, then. Glad we could clear that up.

Good for you. Keep deluding yourself for the carrot of eternal reward in the afterlife.

We already could, but capitalism doesn't allow it.

Amazing how classcucked Americans are.

A commie that is alive is not a good commie.

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You will never know the satisfaction of slamming a whale onto a bio-lab platform swarming with blueberry rebel scum.

I think you mean a reddit thread.

Already did that to purple reddit and spacecommies, even got 14 kills in one scoop before they finally ducked inside on my 3rd run I the amerish southeast biolab

checked

>plebbit
>anything more than a hotbed of liberalism

shiggy

>purple reddit
That...that's probably one of the best descriptions of those no-drop cunts I've ever read.

You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you.

>We already could, but capitalism doesn't allow it.

The fact that so many people don't understand this saddens me.

Emerald nc, how about you?

Connery TR.

People are already giving up religion, for many people religion is more a moral or political ideology rather than an actual spiritual belief.

"It's not true communism"
"It wasn't real communism"
"Communism works if you have the right leader"
"Communism works in theory"

For papa vanu

Fucking die, skum. Miller is best

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The NC has 0% freedom.
True master Faction is Vanu. Die

Go fuck you yourself, you moron.

>spanish flag
>socialist/communist thread

it's like you fucks learned nothing from the spanking Franco gave you

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Isn't it funny, for Communists to defeat the fascists, they needed aid from capitalists.

Not a very fitting picture. You're probably one of those retards in Spain that votes Podemos. Communism simply doesn't work at larger scale. Get out of your pathetic, socialist, tween phase and realize that leftism does nothing good for society.

The USSR would've won without Lend Lease. Vastly overstated. Maybe, they wouldn't have been able to march all the way to Berlin and annex the Baltic States but Germany wouldn't have won long term.

en.reseauinternational.net/wwii-lend-lease-was-the-us-aid-that-helpful-i/

SUCK MY TITAN 150 AP YOU PURPLE DEGENERATE REDITTCOMMIES

You don't have to give up religion to live a good life in communism. The antipathy against religion stems from the fact that it is a philosophy firmly grounded in materialism and religious leaders usually join sides with reactionaries. South American liberation theology and the current catholic pope show that religion isn't incompatible with leftism.

Orion.
Umad bro?

Except south america has people who make isis look like fucking amateurs, so yeah, your argument, I think it's at the bottom of the Mariana trench

youtube.com/watch?v=1vRYwaJC5FY

Fucking Poland

Ironically if you put the Communist in the noose you have Spain in 1938. Well, what was may come again, after all.

Catholics tend to embrace "distributism", which still upholds some of the tenets of capitalism. But yeah, religious reactionaries and fundamentalists are the problem, not average people

Piss off.

who should piss off?

Degenerate Marxist trash

What's this from?

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>liberation theology doesn't exist because there are extremists living in south america
Great argument senpai. Which people are you referring to anyways?

this is why I don't like this trend of praising pope Francis. His criticism of of capitalism ist moralist and toothless.

Have you not seen how south American kill eachother, or the average violent crime rating, isis are fucking kids compared to that, there's something very unholy about south america

Get out, commie trash.

It's not about extremists when the average person is a violent animal with no moral integrity, all of Spains colonies are violent HELLHOLES, all of the British colonies including the USA are at the apex of civilization, minus the niggers and mudshits

anonhq.com/recent-study-worlds-fastest-growing-religion-no-religion/

where have you been?

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they need to make you guys your own containment board
>oh wait it would be dead

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Last time I checked Sup Forums is for political discussion, not a far-right circlejerk

Sure, humans can be extremely cruel, but I seriously doubt that the average south american is "unholy" and "worse than isis".

Excuse me comrade, that's no way to talk about your fellow proletariat! Don't you know you have more in common with Comrade N'bungo than you do with evil porky Drumpf!?!?!? Race doesn't exist after all, (((Marx))) said so!

Please stop using capitalist innovations to spread your repeatedly disproven nonsense. We get it, you failed at meritocracy. You never aced the test, got the girl or won the game. The problem is that you're the failure, not society.

Fuckin commie scum kys
REEEEEEEEEE

>Degenerate Marxist

proud degenerate communist here

>rational discussion
>with leftists
TOPKEK.
>debate me
Maybe you'll have more luck on Reddit. Aw wait, they censor and ban non lefty-conform opinions.

AH YES HELLO COMRADES

IT HAS BEEN A WHILE, I WAS WORRIED YOU DID NOT RECIEVE ADEQUATE RATIONS FROM THE BREADLINE IN TIME

HOW HAVE WE PROGRESSED IN SEIZING THE MEANS OF BULL PREPPING???

You could've just said communist

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Communism

>there is absolutely nothing wrong with judaism

Hey guy who created this thread, have you noticed that your other Reddit buddies aren't putting in as much work as you are? How would you feel if they claimed equal credit for your subversion?

Under communism, what's exactly motivating me to work a more demanding job than my neighbor?
I'm pretty sure communism will only breed laziness and inefficiency since there's no reward for working hard.

As a Jew I agree.

recognition from your peers, a possibility to do the things you love, a better supply with whatever it is you are producing and the fact that you are a conscious, cognitively regulated animal that suffers depression and even dementia if you're not able to do anything.

Are you faggots still doing this? Jesus christ.

>recognition from your peers
My peers will also be lazy fucks. I can already see this happening with my peers right now.
Getting money (or equivalent amount of goods and services) for doing nothing will only motivate a lot of people to do nothing.
>a possibility to do the things you love
It's literally impossible to have everybody have their dream job because somebody always needs to do the awful, shitty jobs too.
>a better supply with whatever it is you are producing and the fact that you are a conscious, cognitively regulated animal that suffers depression and even dementia if you're not able to do anything.
Can you elaborate this part please? I'm not sure I follow you

You'll see the light one day.

Or not. Your call.

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