IT'S NOT ABOUT LAYERS. THE FORGERY ISN'T THE LAYERS. THE FORGERY IS THE 9 POINTS. THIS IS NOT OLD NEWS. THIS IS NOT OLD NEWS.THIS IS NOT OLD NEWS.THIS IS NOT OLD NEWS.THIS IS NOT OLD NEWS.THIS IS NOT OLD NEWS.THIS IS NOT OLD NEWS.THIS IS NOT OLD NEWS.
The Maricopa County Sheriff's Dept declared THE PRESIDENT'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO BE FAKE.
Either one of the largest law enforcement offices in the country is forging documents and lying or Obama is.
Either way it's a huge deal. BUT NOT ONE FUCKING ACTUAL NEWS ARTICLE ON IT>
Dont reply to shills saying its old and debunked - anyone who watches the presentation sees its not about the layers and the xeros achine, its about exact matches from a different birth certificate.
Owen Hughes
Again this isnt old layers shit.
This isnt some crackpot that has 10 youtube subscribers.
This isnt bohemian grove shit.
Its been reported by several local news agencies (ABC and Fox) and USA Today truthfully.
The AP and CBS address it but dont actually reveal what happens they simple state that the case is closed.
Angel Cruz
remember user, we are usually 36-48 hours ahead of the "news". I expect it will hit breitbart tommorow and maybe Drudge the next day. Once it hits drudge it will surely blow up.
Doesn't mention the new evidence. Doesn't mention the 9 points.
Aiden Wilson
>mfw obama was kenyan and it doesn't matter anyway
Stay mad
Charles Morales
Bump
Ayden Rogers
Anyone who has twitter spread the video also bump
Joshua Gonzalez
from other thread
Aaron Foster
>joe arpaio >saying anything worth listening to
nah
Luke Garcia
>having a felon president doesn't matter Of all people, a South Korean should know this
Ryder Young
This. Good call. Thanks, Hans.
Grayson James
Honestly I think the layers are just done automatically by the software or something. I don't think this is news.
Nathaniel Jackson
Its on Drudge.
Elijah Barnes
>Either one of the largest law enforcement offices in the country is forging documents and lying or Obama is. This is how stupid people think. People like you, to be blunt.
Maybe they just poured through thousands of archives documents looking for the one with the most similarities. It's not that hard. If "9 points" was the best they could do, they must have gotten lazy.
Blake Young
bait
Benjamin Cruz
Lossy encoding over a corpus of documents.
JB2 and JBIG2 replace patches with existing ones that are "close enough" depending on the compression settings.
can someone explain this image? I'm and idiot and dont understand it.
Julian Sanders
Are (((they))) serious? Makes you think of girls on facebook warping a selfie and neglecting the background.
Charles Moore
"Fake News" was them laying the groundwork for the things to come. "Fake News" was spammed by the media like a new brand of soft drink only a few weeks ago.
Believe me, they've been sitting on the concept of "Fake News" for a while but you can't deploy something like that willy-nilly.
"Fake News" means that they are getting desperate.
Charles Thomas
No one is clicking that little shitty link. This is huge news. What the fuck is Drudge's problem? >scared of being labeled fake news
Cooper Reyes
Anyone attacking this is clearly CTR.
I never liked the Pizzagate shit, but I wouldnt go into the thread and try to disuade people from doing anything with it.
Sometimes Sup Forums likes wierd crazy shit thats how it goes. Only someone who had a vested interest in discrediting something would try to do so.
James Thomas
>Arpaio concludes long-running 'birther' investigation of Obama
>Arpaio, a vocal supporter of President-elect Donald Trump who lost his reelection bid in Arizona in November, used a news conference Thursday to complain that his claims about Obama were dismissed.
It's over.
Jayden Wright
>From a guy I know who works in digital design or some shit.
Uncompressed layering: This is impossible, point blank, if this is a scan from the 1960s as is claimed. That's a lie. This is not a copy of the original scan, it's a rescan of a print of the supposed original scan. No one is that stupid to leave layers uncompressed in their forged conspiratorial non-american president cover-up file. Makes the Whitehouse liars, but not necessarily conspirators in a fake birth certificate cover-up.
Security pattern doesn't match paper curve: The green pattern on the birth cert doesn't bend with the paper. It very obviously digitally added on overtop of actual document. As we can see in Johanna Ah'Nee's birth certificate, the security pattern is really really faded and hard to see on an original 1960s scan. Again, no one is retarded enough to make this mistake in a forgery. Simple explanation is that it's been readded to either make this look more official, or as a security measure for the recopied copy (which makes no sense and isn't protocol, according to several hospital docs I've found).
White halo-ing on font: Does not happen in scanned documents. Indicates text is digitally added OR - the explanation I'm going with - it's a result of text recognition in a new scanner picking out the text and burning it to a new layer, which fits with the layering explanation above. Meaning this is most likely a copy of a print of a copy. Completely out of protocol for record keeping. Incompotence or fakery.
Different font resolutions and quality: This is fuckery, plain and simple. Either the text is completely digitally added and it's a forgery, or these retards actually enhanced what's supposedly an official record. Combined with the other stuff mentioned above, this is more likely incompotence and some jackass trying to make the doc look more presentable to the public than as an evidence of forgery, because no one is that stupid, right?(edited)
1/2
Colton Garcia
Do you really believe fake news isn't actually a thing? Do you have any idea how many articles I read abut Hillary being arrested and Julian Assange being assassinated I read in the last 6 months?
Jason Jenkins
Please elaborate one "not the layers but the nine points"?
Are you saying the layers are... normal? what are the "9 points" ?
John Robinson
Stick to the 9 points. This seems a little too obvious. No one will believe that's proof of anything. Remember these people think Barack is a genius. The trick is to get people's attention. The 9 points is irrefutable.
Aiden Martin
You think the encoding for the scans of documents replicates features such as stamp tilt, letter impressions, and other distinquishing features, or are you just memeing?
Levi Gray
I agree "fake" news is the new globalist tactic.
People are smarter then they admit and will figure out if something is fake or not.
They are just trying to reassert control over the masses.
Colton Long
I see the fake news machine is making more fake news
Adam Torres
you're right user
Eli Watson
Copied text: This is bad. This is what Sheriff Whatshisface and several other experts have brought up as issues. There is no explanation for this. This is a sign of forgery, and either Johanna Ah'Nee's birth certificate or Obama's is a phoney. I have no idea how reliable the Johanna Ah'Nee birth certificate is. It was supposedly found from among however many other records by the Sheriff's investigation as being one of the source documents used to steal text from to forge Obama's. Could the sheriff be using a fake to try to prove Obama's is a fake? Sure. Why not... But there's also identical text within this birth certificate in multiple places. That would point to Obama's being the fake. It is possible, though, that the previously mentioned text recognition and enhancement fuckery resulted in the letters becoming amorphized, or kinda mushy and generic. This could explain them being identical. Identical text just indicates that it's computer generated rather than legitimate. Could the text enhancement have "tidied up" the letters and made them identical? I don't know. I'll assume yes.
2/3 (longer than I thought...)
Samuel Peterson
The layers might be true or might not be true but the media basically discreditted that whole idea.
The 9 points are talking about different parts of the documents that are identical on both documents.
Just watch the video honestly.
Adam White
Conclusion:
A) The Obama birth certificate is edited all to hell to make it prettier and more presentable to the public. They're completely bullshitting when they say it's a legit record, but its only been tampered with, not forged. In this situation, Sheriff whatshisface is using a fake birth certificate to try and push his conspiracy and get a few moments in the spotlight. The question remains, however, why would the Whitehouse refuse to make an actual legitimate copy available? This one does literally nothing to prove he was born in the USA, as it has zero validity as an actual record.
B) The Obama birth certificate is fakes and they've hidden their forgery under a mountain of garbage. No one can prove it's faked because it's so badly done that any real evidence is drowned under the white noise of "incompotence" which is actually a cover. The few experts who do bother to try can easily prove that it's faked, but they just get laughed down by the brainwashed public and ignored by other experts who go "there's no way anyone is retarded enough to make this many mistakes". In this situation, the Sheriff is telling the truth and he found the source doc for part of the forgery
In either case, however, we still have zero proof that Obama was born in America, because his presented birth certificate is absolutely trash and completely invalid as a record. Nothing will ever come of this, so it's a personal matter of preference as to whether you think they're retards who don't know how to keep records and who published a hokey edited document as publicly appealing proof, or if they're clever conspirators covering for the fact that their engineered globalist-agent president is illegitimate.
3/3
>I have no idea what half of this means, but I figured it was relevant.
Justin Powell
They aren't normal, but they are disputable. The nine points part is indisputable.
Ryder Russell
Nice
Andrew Myers
The page as it lay on the scanner bends at the left edge, the background of the paper however if extended straight - that is as if no bend is present - matches up with the background of the bend edge on the left - whereas the background should warp just as the page it is printed on.
I agree with To get peoples attention focus should be on the 9 points.
Daniel Richardson
As the other guy said, stick to the 9 points. But to explain the image the background doesn't curve with the paper, notice the hatching.
Nolan Gonzalez
Talk to me like I'm Australian.
What does "9 points" mean exactly?
Does it mean there are 9 parts of the document that were lifted from the source document?
Josiah Scott
Fake news. You guys lost legitimacy when you went all in on pizza gate. Reminds me of the boy who cried wolf. Jewish masters chose Obama when he was in college. The problem? He was Kenyan. They needed to forget the birth certificate. This is politics folks, you need to break rules to play the game.
Nathaniel Hall
The guys who actually are professionals in the field can do a better job of explaining then anons larping as ones (including myself)
Charles Williams
I see ctr still thinks its relevant
Eli Price
No it's like the score. 9 points out 10 for it being a legit document. That 1 missing point is what the hub bub is about.
Isaac Powell
...
Thomas Walker
It's what they made the entire press conference about. Watch the video.
Matthew Smith
Yeah but when it comes down to it, who gives a fuck what sheriff Joe says? The guy's a wingnut, and a total douchbag.
That's why nobody cares.
Tyler Reed
It's something to do with the layering it was debunked a long time ago and Sup Forums is facing a onslaught of trolling necromancers trying to stir Sup Forums's pot
Oliver Hernandez
lel also bump
Justin Thomas
This The layers is old news. This whole story is basically like trying to convince people crop circles are real because we've all been told for so long that this story was fake. But it looks like it's real and this obama guy is going to have a press conference tomorrow to talk about how russia hacked trump into the white house. We need to get ahead of this. We need this story to get out correctly.
9 POINTS.
Noah Hall
That's a retarded tactic unless it's a bluff intended to make the country more conservative because eventually enough people will just stop trusting the media altogether and jump to the all the conclusions they're told not to.
Cameron Howard
A or B should be newsworthy, right? What the actual fuck is going on?
Mason Clark
Thx for correcting the record :3
Jose Brown
>indisputable The nine points prove that Johanna Ah'Nee's birth certificate is a forgery based on Barack Obama's birth certificate.
You have 12 seconds to prove me wrong.
Jack Turner
So assuming it's fake and this becomes utterly undeniable even to lefties and goes further, what could happen? Obama and anyone caught trying to help suppress it would probably be put in jail, would all of his executive orders be voided?
Ayden Hall
Why the proxy, leaf?
Julian Myers
Fuck you shill. That was funny though.
Joseph Phillips
Kill yourself you shill piece of shit
Jace Smith
C: They used cheap document archival software with crappy lossy compression, and we're seeing the result.
Adam Bailey
Look at the dates retard
Zachary Rodriguez
Also, what does his brother (Malik Obama) say about the whole birther thing?
Adam Hall
This. Exactly. Sup Forums has a bad memory this was debunked so long ago
Leo Bell
A fake document can't have a fake date?
Hate to break it to you, bud, but you might actually be the retard in this scenario.
No one listen to these faggots. Watch the God damn video for yourself, its plain as day FRAUD.
Grayson Butler
So you're admitting that obama's birth certificate is fake?
Rekt
Aaron Moore
Checked myself. Also I get it now. Since the election and the Great Meme War we got flooded with ledditors Now they are here and they don't remember so they are treating this as a big serious issue It makes sense now. No wonder Sup Forums lost some IQ points it seems
Daniel Foster
Not at all. Watch the video. This has nothing to do with compression loss. The exact penstrokes and stamp marks were lifted from another document.
Also fuck you shill
Ryan Russell
It'd still be news worthy. You have 11 seconds to prove me wrong.
Hudson Perry
yeah man some serious fucking history is about to down.
Completely fucking unprecedented.
90% of the msn is 'fake news' .
Cooper Bailey
I'm assuming faked (actual evidence is 9 points), then scanned with crappy bundled scanner software (which causes layering).
James Stewart
Yeah, you're bullshitting us.
William Cooper
Wow, high energy. Where was all this effort during the campaign? Is Soros paying you in tendies AND mountain dew, now?
Gavin Brown
Thats not the point, idiot, people write garbage all the time since forever, the fishy thing here is how the entire (((MSM))) machine started oy veyying about anuddah shoah, "FAKE NEWS", in concert. Something is up.
Grayson Watson
>m-muh compression explains eburything
Levi Hall
No it was not. The layers are not the smoking gun, it's the EXACT penstrokes lifted from another doc that are the problem. They found the source material used to fabricate it! That's what this is about.
Ryder Morgan
Fucking retard. This has nothing to do with the layers shit from years ago.
John Evans
This. Thank you.
Sebastian Hill
There is 1 legit article on USA Today, how many people will see that.
Drudge has it as small link.
This story should be as big as the CIA unsubstantiated allegations of russian hacking.
Kevin Turner
Ohhhh myyyy god, how could they be so incompetent kek
Kevin Cook
>muh layers
It's nothing.
Hunter Scott
Put the image from Whitehouse dot gov into doto forensics dot com.
Pretty damning, and although it's probably just archiving software, they shouldn't have used it on important evidence.
Watching either will shut the layer-jews up, if not assume shilling and stop replying to them
Lucas Torres
Checked
Thomas Powell
bump
Matthew James
Pathetic dumbocrats finally give in to pressure to produce a birth certificate
Shit tier Hawaii (libtards) shoop up a fake
Idiot WH staffers publish it without flattening it, leaving layers
Based anons and sceptics immediately discover layers in illustrator
But muh printer
Arpaio goes into bulldog mode
Finds source document of layers are pieces of another hand stamped cut and pasted BC. Impossible set of perfect overlaps for 1960's generated BC.
Forgery. Verified independently by 2 teams of forensic document specialists.
Aaron Miller
You don't know how stupid the average person is.
They haven't figured out how much they are lied to nonstop.
Remember Clinton won the popular vote
Gavin Phillips
USA Today AND Law Newz?! Wow. This is blowing up. Both treat it like a nessie sighting. We need an actual news report. And drudge only cares about NFL uniforms and facebookery.
Josiah Garcia
#ninepoints with the first video works the best since its quick and to the point.
The whole presentation will bore people.
Also the USA Today article or the ABC article are the best since it will make it harder to deflect it as fake news.
Benjamin Smith
You guys are so fucking gullible. Barack's birth certificate was damaged to all hell so they prettied it up a bit before making it public.
It's a white lie to call it """official""" because it's a reconstruction of the original but it doesn't make it fake. You're chasing fake news again. This is a smokescreen to make Republicans look like idiots so that the Russian hacker story (also fake news) has a Hail Mary's chance of working.
By committing to this as a story you are dancing to (((their))) puppet strings. Don't fall for it.
