Whenever I talk about reasonable gun control on here, all the Americans come at me saying "You can't take all my guns", I don't want ALL your guns. I just want your assault weapons that no ordinary person should have, there's literally no need for them to be in circulation. Are you fighting terrorists in the streets everyday? NO. Surely you Americans are logical and reasonable people and see that certain guns need to be taken away. You can still have your guns for hunting/self defence purposes, but no assault weapons.
If you are just going to call me a leaf or a faggot please move on, I want to have an intelligent conversation.
Rather have it when I need it than not have it when I do.
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
If you don't like guns don't get one.
Adrian Jackson
Reasonable gun control already exists, time to stfu about it
Hudson Ward
Assault weapons are already banned in the States. And Candian firearms laws are fucked, the RCMP can literally create new ones overnight.
David Lee
This argument is retarded.
It's other people with guns that's the issue, how does me not getting one help?
Kayden Smith
We keep them in case of tyranny that must be fought. Yeah it hasn't come to that yet, but you don't get rid of a fire extinguisher just because you haven't had a fire in years.
Mason Fisher
Do the kikes really pay well enough to keep you posting this bait every twenty minutes?
>A
Isaac Young
SHALL
Alexander Myers
> It's other people with guns that's the issue, how does me not getting one help?
You inadvertently outlined the whole point of the second ammendment Your post could have been written thus:
> It's CRIMINALS with guns that's the issue, how does me not getting one help?
Justin Mitchell
>guys its just assault weapons we're banning! >guys we really need to something about handguns >I mean we might as well get rid of bolt action rifles as well, don't want accidents do we? >about those slingshots >Who really NEEDS a stake knife anyway?
Grayson White
There are two main arguments against this afaik
1. Slippery slope, gun rights advocates don't want to give an inch because they fear it will just encourage further limits and eventual outright bans.
2. Criminals don't obey gun laws anyway, and laws against buying certain weapons do nothing about the hundreds of millions of guns already on the streets and the millions being smuggled in from Mexico. Do you think a felon is obtaining his weapon legally before he goes off to murder somebody?
Gavin Jenkins
While the need for assault weapons is subjective and differs to each person, the fact remains that their constitution supports their right to have that, better or worse. The intention of the second amendment is pretty soundly decided on being there to have an armed population so a government can't screw with the people without respecting what the people can do if pushed. There are risks, benefits and drawbacks to it being that way, and yes the founding fathers of the USA probably didn't foresee all those things when they put it to paper, but the purpose it was done for was clearly valued strongly despite such things. At this point, firearms are part of American history and culture. Tinkering with it because it's "logical" isn't the approach that works, you're going up against a factor that was instrumental in the founding of the whole country.
Better to focus efforts on what causes the harmful use of these weapons instead of the presence of said weapons.
Lucas Rodriguez
>shall not be infringed Fuck off
Noah Foster
So let's say guns didn't exist. Do you think Adam Lanza would have stabbed to death 20 individual children? Surely not. He would have gotten a couple before he was stopped. This kind of reasoning can be applied to every massacre in US history where 10+ people were killed. Guns DO kill people
Henry Clark
>I just want your assault weapons that no ordinary person should have >Reasonable gun control
How is it reasonable to circumvent the constitution?
Jaxson Young
America has 30000 deaths a year with firearms. 10000 if you stop counting suicides. Of those 10000 almost half are criminals shooting other criminals. Also. Friendly reminder that self defense shootings are also in the remaining 5000 Most of the shootings occur with pistols. Are you saying that people shouldnt buy pistols? As far as rifles go. They are almost never used in shootings.
the problem with gun regulation in the US is that republicans are so bought by the RNC that its hilarious to the point that they dont want to pass gun ban laws on people in the terrorist watchlist and that democrats will ban your guns if you let the regulations to them since they follow european behaiviour when it comes to limiting freedom gun regulations must be done by republicans but they are money crackheads also with the amount of guns that the us has you are not gonna see any direct effect in at least 20 years but they should have them implemented eitherwise
Joseph Davis
Do the world a favor and choke on your wife's son's cock.
Luis Flores
>Do you think Adam Lanza would have stabbed to death 20 individual children?
>I just want your assault weapons that no ordinary person should have Says who? I say people should have whatever they want to have as long as it has not damaging other people's stuff ir health.
Lincoln Collins
yeah thats not how it works.
Isaac Thompson
...but that's exactly how the process would start. That's how many rights and protections of Americans have been eroded over the decades, you leftists start with baby steps until you have it erraticated. Da fuck outta here!
Jordan Jenkins
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Colton Collins
>the point that they dont want to pass gun ban laws on people in the terrorist watchlist do you really not understand why this is retarded?
David Baker
When the founding fathers wrote the 2A they were using muskets that could shoot one bullet at a time and take 45 seconds to reload. If they ever knew the immense killing power that guns would grow to become I highly doubt they would have ever wrote the 2A.
If we let a single Right become a privilege then all Rights become privileges.
Also, "Common sense gun control" is a euphemism for "step by step progress toward full confiscation".
Luis Garcia
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!!!!!
Jackson Allen
thats exactly how it goes. If they were really worried about stopping gun crime, they would focus on small caliber hand guns, not ar's
Christopher Clark
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Trump is giving nation wide open carry along with expanded self defense rights, dumb niggers like OP can get ready to post a lot of stupid crying bullshit, because they are going to be getting shot up in record numbers when whites are allowed to carry and defend themselves in every state.
Gonna be a whole lot more Trayvons, cuck, get used to it. You lost, because dumbshit invalid threads like this one.
Ryder King
And for a second, I thought this wasn't a bait thread.
Oh well.
Levi Parker
>reasonable gun control How about reasonable nigger control since they're the ones going most of the shooting?
Hudson Fisher
>Do you think Adam Lanza would have stabbed to death 20 individual children?
Yes you fucking faggot leaf. Look up the train stabbings in China, or the terrorist stabbings pulled off at OSU, which was stopped by a person WITH A GUN.
Tyler Gray
It's a lot like the concept of rights. Taking away one right means that any right can be next. Taking away one type of gun means that any type can be next.
P.S. Most gun-related deaths involve handguns, so banning assault weapons would be retarded.
Jaxson Lopez
how bout you fuck off, Francis?
Gabriel Sanchez
>no need for them to be in circulation
You are an idiot, so fuck off. Oh, to be "correct" fuck off leaf!
Ryder Gutierrez
They want gun control. Cops want an excuse
Liam Hill
>1 post by this ID Slide thread, everyone.
Jacob Ortiz
Dammit leaf, I went looking for this comic right before you posted it!
Josiah Campbell
'Assault weapons'. Define please. And make a case as to why you get to take them away, how you will take them away way, and why we should let you disarm us.
'Reasonable' gun control is a disgusting term, by the way. Say what you mean in clear terms, don't hide behind phrases that imply that anyone who disagrees is unreasonable.
Hunter Ward
>Do you think Adam Lanza would have stabbed to death 20 individual children? Surely not. Here, faggot, enjoy the read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack
Thomas Harris
>fucking
Oliver Foster
you don't really have a right to an opinion about our gun laws go fuck a moose you syrup guzzling faggot
Jackson Lopez
reasonably gun control means keeping guns away from niggers.
Nolan Perry
So we make laws over saving 20 or hypothetical deaths in a country of 300 million?
Eli Phillips
Your argument is invalidated by the fact that at the time the government was also limited to the same weaponry.
Parker Green
how come
Aaron Diaz
You're right. Reasonable gun control means no gun control.
I'm glad you're submitting to our line of reasoning--this will make it easier for you to watch us repeal all forms of illegal unconstitutional gun restrictions now that we completely dominate all branches of government.
William Torres
I have every right, you are my countries shoes
Mason Flores
>the left doesn't define what reasonable is
Kevin Ortiz
i only want to exterminate CERTAIN human races not ALL of them, only those who cannot reach normal human behavior, there is no need for nigger and jews to be in circulation, are you afraid of whites everywhere you go? NO. surely you leaves are logical and reasonable people and see that certain races need to be exterminated, you can still have the hot females for forced reproduction purposes, but no niggers and jews.
If you're just going to call me a raicist or a nazi please move on, i ant to have an intelligent conversation
Jordan Reyes
2nd amendment isn't for hunting or self defense, it never was.
It was for shooting uppity nigger slaves and British soldiers, maybe invading from Canada?
"Assault weapon", please define.
There are thousands of gun laws currently on the books at federal and state levels.
We had an "assault weapon" ban in the 90s, nothing fucking changed.
Long guns are used so rarely in crimes it is insignificant.
Our gun violence is largely inner-city illegal handguns, niggers killing niggers for 'muh gang honor' or drugs or bitches.
Get rid of the inner city nigger problem we get rid of the violence.
Aiden Harris
SHALL
Bentley Turner
The plain text of the second amendment covers "arms". Considering the technology of the day, that at least ought to cover artillery, and in principle should prevent any restriction on even nuclear or chemical weapons, without a further constitutional amendment.
Jacob Richardson
It literally happened to the UK you dolt
Jonathan Williams
PERFECTLY STATED
Holy shit this kiwi just earned honorary citizenship
Jonathan Wood
STINGER MISSLES & NAPALM BOMBS for every redneck!!! DAY OF THE LEAF PREPPERSRUS
Logan Ward
There's no judical process for getting put on a terror watch list or a no fly list. "The Powers that Be" just decide and boom, you're on the list. Inevitably they'll have an issue with using just the terror watch list >oh this white kid wasn't picked up on the list before he shot someshit So they'll move to a "no-gun" list. Then more and more people will get added to the no gun list. Oh you posted anti gov material on social media? No gun list Oh you spoke out against (((them)))? No gun list Oh you're a registered republican? No gun list Oh yea already have 3 guns? thats enough, no gun list. etc etc...
Hudson Scott
Why are gun nuts so thick?
>"Reasonable gun control isn't defined XD"
There IS a common criteria you imbeciles. It means A. Keeping those with mental illnesses away from guns and B. Not allowing fully automatic weapons.
You know, like pretty much every other developed country.
Landon Robinson
And if the founding fathers knew about nukes, do you think they would have reconsidered having a federal government?
Thomas Adams
>Are you fighting terrorists in the streets everyday? NO.
not yet. but the AR-15 is there in case of the eventuality.
Gabriel Smith
1 post by this idea jesus, Sup Forums is fucking stupid
Cameron Bell
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Xavier Perry
Guns being smuggled IN from Mexico, go home burger you are drunk.
Sebastian Martin
no, that still doesn't give you any right to an opinion about American gun laws don't like gun laws in the USA? don't come here. stay on your side of the line.
James Gonzalez
Because the government can put anyone they want on that list for no real reason.
Luis Rogers
Maybe I agree maybe I don't. The problem is you can't do that through legislation, you have to do it through amending the 2nd amendment .
Josiah Johnson
the problem with it is it only STARTS reasonable
then it gets more and more unreasonable over time
the constitution has the words "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
Lincoln Bailey
(you)
Elijah Lee
Reminder that in when the 2nd was written it was legal to own warships with cannons bigger than what the navy had.
Levi White
>"I want to have an intelligent conversation." >1 post by this ID >tangible snark >a leaf
>when the bait is this obvious SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Jack Cook
We already have reasonable gun control you fucking leak. The only people that think it's too easy to buy a gun are the people that have never even fired one.
Mason Miller
>A. Keeping those with mental illnesses away from guns >and >B. Not allowing fully automatic weapons.
You are not only idiot dude, you are stupid also. Mentally ill peoples are in specialized hospitals, and all other peoples have right to defend. What the fuck you want?
Dylan Gonzalez
Do you have any idea of the killing power of a cannon loaded with grapeshot? Because they had those.
Camden Hall
>People kill people With guns
Isaiah Mitchell
Yea? Because "reasonable gun control" is a bunch of buzzwords that knuckle draggers like you use to ban whatever gun you happen not to like at the time.
Know what reasonable gun control is? If the government is allowed to use it, so are the citizens. Magazine must be 20 rounds or less? Government issued weapons too. No fully automatic fire? Government issued as well. Citizens can't own nukes? Neither can the government. There is your reasonable gun control, fucker.
Ayden Edwards
How about instead of shooting at all your problems, talk them out like any sane human being.
Blake Nelson
>Guns DO kill people inanimate object.
Robert Hernandez
I don't think ANY gun control is acceptable. All guns should be "legal" and so should EVERYTHING ELSE. So there is NO SUCH THING as reasonable gun control.
Kayden Lewis
It's very simple. why is so hard for you leaf's to understand this?
> the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed
Dylan Johnson
"Reasonable" gun control would be doing what that amendment is for in the first place and letting people have big ass tanks and war ships and whatever the fuck else to match what the government has
Josiah Parker
I hate when people take random screenshots from movies and put some witty text on it that has nothing to do with the character or scene.
Luis Campbell
>keeping mentally ill people put of the hospital for fear that they will lose their rights
I fixed A for you. As far as B goes, getting an automatic firearm in the US requires a lengthy background check and a shitload of paperwork
John Ross
Dude even if that were true I would just say they lacked forsight and were probably faggots. You still can't have my guns.
Jeremiah Scott
Why do Liberals have to ruin this guy? He's not like any of you faggots. You also don't have enough testosterone to grow that kind of mustache. Kill yourself nigger lover.
James Jenkins
Who decides what qualifies as mentally ill? Is bipolar a reason not to own a gun? Chronic depression? Autism? You know that there have been repeated attempts to enter "Happiness" as a psychiatric condition into the DSM right?
Cameron Perez
It's already been said, but, it's not the bill of needs.
Besides we need more and more powerful weapons available. We need to keep pace with the military so we can protect ourselves from unreasonable government encroachment.
Robert Cox
There can be no reasonable gun control because there nothing reasonable about an uneven playing field. Whatever guns one person can have all people can have, and anyone who disagrees is pro-slavery.
Ryder Hall
The constitution explicitly authorizes the issue of "letters of marque and reprisal". You know what those are for? Contracting privately owned warships.
Carter Morgan
>amendment
You are right. Look at Europe how failed can be now. Of course, nobody in Euro goverments want free guns zone, because they are freaking scared. I also think allowing Europeans to have gun, could solve many many problems, that our governments can solve or dont want to.
Andrew Roberts
shall not be infringed
Sebastian Peterson
Why not instead take all the pistols which are responsible for more than 85% of all gun related deaths?
Carter Lopez
Yeah, and Hillary Clinton thought Australia's gun control policy was common sense. That shows you where (((their))) end goal is.
USA has over 20k gun laws on the books. Since 1943 we've continued to give up bits and pieces of our liberty. No more.
David Green
this
It always starts off with some open worded bullshit like "common sense" gun laws. Then some Sandy Hook bullshit happens and you have CT banning mag sizes and Jew York banning guns based on how scary they look.
Nolan Bennett
> When the founding fathers wrote the 1A they were using letters that could send one message at a time and take 45 days to reach their destination. If they ever knew the immense publishing power that the industrial rotary press, television, and internet would grow to become I highly doubt they would have ever wrote the 1A.
Dominic Lopez
>I NEED TO BE ABLE TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT SO THAT MEANS I NEED NUKES THATS REASONABLE Literal Ancappers in this thread
