Are trumpbots really stupid enough to believe that protectionism is better than free markets?

Are trumpbots really stupid enough to believe that protectionism is better than free markets?

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so to speak.

Globalism is the natural result of the all-powerful free market. The market should be free,meaning that there sould be the right of private poperty and individual initiative,but within a protected system to prevent such market from destroying the basic interests of the community.

Free trade with counties which use slave labour is a surefire way to devalue your own people's labour.

This

Trump supporters are stupid enough to believe anything that tickles their sense of superiority.

It's not exactly free markets when you tax corporations at 35%+ on top of minimum wage, mandatory benefits, and hundreds of thousands of regulations, and tax goods at

Thomas Sowell's ideology can only function in a society where government is only for defense. The second they start building infrastructure and shit, they also have to counterbalance it with protectionism. But Trump said he's going to be dismantling this somewhat so fuck off you greasy spaniard.

This. You can still have capitalism, but also protect the interests of the people of the nation, through Keynesian economics. It's not an either/ or decision like Marxists or Austrian economic tards would have you believe.

Ah so the TC is actually referring to the (((free market))) thanks for clarifying

TC?

Are libertarians really so dumb they think outsourcing is good?

>believing in any long distance trade
DAm you're really really stupid

Free trade with shit countries like Mexico or China only results in sucking the wealth from the middle class.

>b-b-but muh free markets
Protectionism made this country great in the first place. The founding fathers knew this.

you're dumb

Trade benefits both parties and is associated with higher levels of growth

Trade benefits the lower and middle classes greatly through lower prices and growth in export industries

You are seriously stupid if you think you would be better of paying higher prices for all the stuff from China you probably buy.

Not only that, but you take your incorrect economic policies and want to start imposing your wishes on other people and starting aggression against China

Sad

Topic creator lol

It's not about "muh GDP"

>fiat currencies and government regulations
>free market

choose one

Lol thanks for the (((scienceism))) lesson faggot

Trade only benefits the globalists.

>Trade benefits the lower and middle classes greatly through lower prices and growth in export industries
Free trade raises the price of goods dumbfuck due to higher shipping costs. You're stupid

- SAD

>cheap chink shit is good
No, people need well paying jobs and rising wages not cheapass consumer goods.

Security and stability is literally a human needs for happiness. Globalism turns everyone into a mobile automaton with no family or community. It's fucking disgusting.

You're disgusting

But not as dumb as the globalist puppets known as kikbergtarians

Bitch you're dumb. Nationalists are puppets of the illluminati

It is. Because united states have regulations other countries don't have, making it an uneven marked and worse for the average citizen.

Remove the regulations and it's clearly better.

/thread.

Free market doesn't exist.

Outsourcing benefits a few parasitic globalist billionaires while impoverishing the productive members of society

Kek

This level of leafposting shouldn't even be possible

>OY VEY GOY WATCHU MEEN IT'S THE CORPORATIONS THAT TRY TO DESTROY THE NON-GULLIBLE PERSONALITY

Outsorcing is the most natural thing in the economy, it has always happened and it always will. Without outsourcing seasonal manual labor from Ukraine my father's farm would become absolutelly unprofitable because there are no hands to work in the area or the salary they demand is too high (why would they have to work if the pay is not significantly higer than the welfare? It's easier to sit at home and complain that someone took 'your jeeb'). Without outsourcing people like my father would have to close their business and economy would shrink creating more unemployment. No outsourcing means less goods produced but also you wouldn't be albe to afford all the things you can now because the prices would be higher. Also outsourcing doesn't only happen on a global scale, if you would want to build a factory in New York you would have to spend way more money on salaries that in Alabama.

Well they're stupid enough to believe that a billionaire and his buddies care about them and that trickle down economics works, so yes.

Don't buy them then.
And you ignore the whole reason people support trade- comparative advantage which raises production.

Clearly they need both.
Increased purchasing power is associated with faster growth and better paying jobs.
You need to get on the train of winners and success

Ignore the millions in America who benefit
Ignore the billions of the world's poor who benefit
Then maybe
But that seems pretty dishonest

>all Regulation is bad


Enjoy your lead lined Chinese children's toys

>Low wages are good

This is why Eastern Europe is so fucked

>Increased purchasing power is associated with faster growth and better paying jobs.
Then why have wages been stagnant for decades while consumer goods have dropped in prices?

Protip: People need to be able to afford a home and raising a family not a fucking iphone.

>benefit from places like China

America benefits, China does not. You're forgetting those Chinese workers are practically slaves and get paid peanuts.

At least Africans were fed, clothed and given a shelter. The Chinese are paid scraps and left to fend for themselves after working a ridiculous amount.

Weird how that depends on abusing a communist/socialist country who abuses their people.

Thanks Jews !!!

The 3rd world is completely fucked by outsourcing. Outsourcingtards are simply too autistic to understand

Instead of developing a viable domestic economy based on high wages the 3rd world is rewarded for keeping workers as low paid as possible. Every outsourcing autistic should go live in a cage working for 5 cents an hour if they think it's so great

>Then don't buy them
I don't moron, but that doesn't revent all people from buying them

1) Muhammad Tahir & Dr. Dk Hajah Norulazidah Binti Pg Haji Omar Ali, Trade Openness and Economic Growth: A Review of the Literature (2014). "Overall, this paper concludes that the available literature provides an affirmative answer to the question whether or not trade openness causes economic growth": ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/ass/article/download/36581/20566

2) Jean-Jacques Hallaert, A History of Empirical Literature on the Relationship Between Trade and Growth (2006). "Because international trade theory has not provided an unambiguous prediction on the impact of trade on growth, much of the focus has been on empirical analysis, the weight of which suggests that trade positively affects growth. Case studies point to a positive impact, but are difficult to generalize. More recent empirical studies have focused on cross-country and panel regressions and, although their methods can be criticized, they usually suggest that trade openness strongly enhances economic performance. In addition, industry and firm-level research also show that openness contributes to growth through a positive impact on exports and productivity": cairn.info/revue-mondes-en-developpement-2006-3-page-63.htm

3) Andrew Berg and Anne Krueger, Trade, Growth, and Poverty: A Selective Survey (2003). "Evidence from a variety of sources (cross-country and panel growth regressions, industry and firm-level research, and case studies) supports the view that trade openness contributes greatly to growth": imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2003/wp0330.pdf

America doesn't benefit. Our entire economy has been gutted

You have to go back

Not necessarily. Thomas Sowell is also advocate of getting rid of minimum wage which would counter balance the case you make.

I know that's the right thing to do but I like it here. you guys should consider cracking down on immigration.

>Listen to my neolib think-tanks, got

No thanks

Not necessarily. You guys have an overpopulation problem. If it wasn't for that you'd have enough jobs to go around and everyone could benefit from China abusing their people.

>MUH GDP GREW THE FREE TRADE WAS GOOD
>ALL CULTURE OBLITERATED ALL COMMUNITIES DEAD ALL FAMILIES SPREAD OUT AND DISCONNECTED

Jews rock!!!!!

>muh GDP growth
There's more to the economy than just that faggot.

U.S is very underpopulated, that's why they are bringing in more immigrants.

How profound, this reminds me why have I stopped posting on Sup Forums.

They actually provide empirical evidence that supports their position, unlike you

Also,

>using the word "neoliberal" unironically

Have fun paying 100$ for a pair of hand-woven free range organic american made socks.

I'm so disappointed we've both been educated by the same system and you turned out fucking retarded

Real GDP per capita > culture

>Send millions of jobs to China
>Lol that's not a problem the people who were unemployed because of outsourcing are the problem just kill them or something

Psychopathic fucking leafs

The work force has doubled, and the new entries have mostly been women and immigrants
There's a difference between wage and compensation too.
I don't believe in the wage stagnation

Without exporting to America, do you think they would have been able to lift the hundreds of millions of people that they have out of terrible rural poverty?
Wages are low, but clearly far higher than before. This is despite a still heavily imposing Marxist regime

That's a very lazy comment

t. shekelberg

If things were made in the West they would be cheaper

>thinks the U.S is underpopulated
>not realizing that China which is just populated enough has a population density 10x that of America.

America has been protectionist for its whole history faggot

>being stupid enough to buy chinkshit
Natural selection at work.

Feel free to leave

You are vomiting up the "crops rotting in the field" meme cucks use to justify illigel Mexicans invading the US. You can go ahead and die for all I care

>The work force has doubled, and the new entries have mostly been women and immigrants
Thanks globalism.

>There's a difference between wage and compensation too
Compensation doesn't have readily tangible benefits and won't pay off the mortgage.

>That's a very lazy comment
muh GDP is an even lazier comment. Nobody gives a shit that GDP is growing if the middle class is being gutted.

I don't think the U.S is underpopulated. It's overpopulated.

China has a population density 10x that of America...and they all live in poverty or are unemployed. Weird!

conflating free trade and the globalist/corporatist/cronyist trade deal paradigm we have currently is stupid too.

An actual free trade "deal", would be two sentences on a sheet of paper:
Anyone can import anything they want from whoever they want.
Anyone can export anything they want to whoever they want.

Done.

>not realizing you can't buy anything else
You're dumb, I hope yu have cancer.

Trump will literally be Bill Clinton 2.0

Drumpfkins are in denial about how cucked they've been, Sup Forums is going to get more and more hilarious as the weeks go on

Because current policies are working out so good, right?

The empirical evidence is that the global economy is stagnating thanks to your retarded cult beliefs. And only neolib kikes get butthurt about getting called neolibs

That's not reflation, clown. That's mob rule.

>Trump will literally be Bill Clinton 2.0
>TPP is dead
>NAFTA will be renegotiated
okay faggot

>China has a population density 10x that of America...and they all live in poverty or are unemployed. Weird!
U.S is very underpopulated. Go to a country with low population density like IDK Sudan, and they are starving, weird ain't it!

Whites won't reproduce because we have foresight and no stability. Third worlders don't give a fuck about stability and will keep pumping kids no matter what. Even most of the whites still reproducing are the worst ones or ones who waited until their 30s to have autistic kids. This is all part of the Jewish scheme and the world is fucked.
BUT ITS ALL GOOD BECAUSE MUH GDP JEWS FUCKING ROCK!!!

>meme cucks use to justify illigel Mexicans invading the US
>implying thats what the polak did
Negro, you require more knowledge to understand what the pole was trying to convey to you.

>NAFTA renegotiated
Sure

Fuck off with your cult retard beliefs FREAK

LoL at fucking amerifats accepting they are not superior and they want their shit labor back.

It was supposed that you guys design the stuff because you are Smart and we build it with our hands because we afe dumb but if you are suggesting otherwise its your fucking fault

Mr. Sowell, I've always loved you. I know that you hate niggers as much as we all do here. You, Sir, are a based black man.

>What is the industrial Revolution

It's sad how fucking retarded outsourcing autists are

we outsource because nimbys

>TPP is dead
This is what drumpfweenies actually believe

Newsflash faggot, he's still president elect so right now TPP is still very much on the table and the only guarantee you have is Drumpf's word. Good luck cuck!

>if things were made in the west they would be cheaper
Eh, no. Thats the point of outsourcing labour.

> Even most of the whites still reproducing are the worst ones or ones who waited until their 30s to have autistic kids
>waited until their 30s
That's too young to have kids unless you live in johnny trailerpark

Also population increase is good, Malthus was debunked.

Better at what?

>population icrease is good

Says the cancer cell.

>le Trump will flip flop meme
I'll enjoy the next 8 years.

>implying other countries cant automate manufacturing and do it cheaper because they dont bother with memes like the minimum wage

They're starving because they're niggers, not because they're "underpopulated". White people could have 100 acres apiece and would still be able to run a first world country.

No moron the point of outsourcing is to destroy jobs.

I don't necessarily agree with outsourcing btw. That doesn't change the fact that manufacturing is cheaper in the third world. If you want quality/high tech the west is where you go.

Educate yourself

youtube.com/watch?v=ega-0vQ5pac

Yeah no shit whites have better education.

>I'll enjoy the next 8 years.
You will eat those very words on his first week in office

The only reason you would use wage instead of compensation is if you wanted to make it seem like workers were getting less than they are.
Workers are getting more than they were, regardless of the pure wages

Nobody said GDP was perfect, but it's a widely used measure of economic performance. When people create evidence of an indicator showing good performance, it seems weak to just say '>muh GDP / muh National Income / muh GDP per capita'

Define free market

The result of outsourcing is the destruction of jobs. The point is to cut cost/increase profit.

You act like you didn't just describe every liberal in America

go back to gamefags

Yes it's better. Most of market is controlled by Banks who are controlled by Jews.
But there is nothing wrong with trade itself as long it's moderate and there are some regulations.

No the point is to increase profit, not to lower the price. The price goes up.

bitch you stupid.