Communism

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/What's wrong with communism/country/es/
youtube.com/watch?v=48FUVzJHZxc
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Fuck off. Have you lived in a socialist country?

delete this

Of course not.

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sage

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FREEDOM... IS THE SOVEREIGN RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN

Get a life you pathetic cringy abomination. You are posting 12 hours a day if you don't have any friends just kill yourself you gross ugly weirdo neckbeard nobody will miss you anyway.

archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/What's wrong with communism/country/es/

sage

if communism is so good, why do communist countries always have to build walls to keep people in, and line their borders with watch towers and machinegun armed soldiers and landmines
if capitalism is so bad, why does america have to build a wall to keep people out?

Communism is the true freedom.

If communism is true freedom, why do communists have to kill more people than any other ideology ever and kill anyone who tries to leave their workers 'paradise'?

Fucking commie

Corruption and tyranny are not communism

Why do you leftypollers keep posting this crap everyday?

The reason you had to flee to a heavily moderated safe-space board on 4+Sup Forums was because communism gets BTFO on a board all about free-market of ideas. It's a shit ideology that that's not even accepted unless you shove it down everyone's throat, and then IT STILL FAILS. Like the countless times it has.

kys

Then why does it keep deteriorating to corruption and tyranny?

It's almost like communism doesn't take into account human nature when giving as much powers as it does to a ruling elite to regulate the entire economy.

Because they are corrupted socialist states... none are communism.

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Communists aren't people.

Communism in theory maybe isn't, but communists are. In a matter of fact they are nothing but corrupt and despotic, and just like communism, they don't work.

1000 keks

babby's first programming

It's the same spanish cunt every day

Do communists believe in fire safety?

You forgot to sage dipshit

Real commie here, ask me anything

oткyдa вы знaeтe?

Why do you kill so many people of working class?

They ARE communist. You can't just retract by saying all the failures aren't your ideology just because they fail and aren't worthy of bearing your fictional flag. That's blatant delusion.

You want to know the classic? The definition of insanity?

I'll spare telling you because if your IQ is above 100 you SHOULD have heard of it.

>KB-1

yeh i was kekking too hard

Correction, it's the same proxy-fag spanish cunt.

мы paбoчиe

whut? since when? it's just a Chink or Russian thing
we only kill landlords and capitalist pigs

God, it's like talking to a child.
Communism will always fail like it always has throughout history. It fails because idealism doesn't work in the real world.

Marxis-Leninism = Stalinism. These shit tier communists were too lazy and stupid to actually read Marx and Lenin and instead picked the teachings of a mass murderer of his own people.

They don't post pictures of Stalin in the OP because they hope you wont realize that Marxism-Leninism = Stalinism.

this omg man finally a man who know his shit,
most murrifat and polack, or commie wannabe here just shitpost using the teaching of Stalin, or Mao. which was used for propaganda

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Die you filthy pinko scum.Communism will never work,ever.

Subhuman inbred slavnigger cuck

Give me liberty or prepare to die

Accumulation of wealth and wealth-generating assets is the primary concern for non-solitary individuals whether they live under commie terror or neoliberal slavery

You cannot motivate anyone to put in work that benefits some anonymous bastard so the furthest people are willing to share is with a known and dear individual, fact

>useful idiots
>political prostitutes
what did he mean by this?

Red one is cyanide, isn't it?

Go back to leftypol faggots

Eat my cock. Sorry you suck at life and want to steal from your betters.

>You cannot motivate anyone to put in work that benefits some anonymous bastard so the furthest people are willing to share is with a known and dear individual, fact
absolutely false, pay proper wages under proper working conditions and nobody will have a problem working for anybody else

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Worst role-players of the board.

You need Christ.
Also, the Russian Communist Party is Orthodox officially now.

Define proper, my definition of proper is whatever the job market is willing to agree to provided there's no importation of shitskins to do it for less whilst outsourcing to asian shitholes would be prevented by prohibitive tariffs

Why do you wanna try for the hundredth time a system never meant to work in the first place?

I don't need superstitions.

The message of Christ is not incompatible with communism.

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>he's a communist
>on the internet
>on an anime imageboard
>he "infiltrates" other imageboards with his "comrades"
>he takes his "struggle" very seriously
>his parents paid a lot for his education
>they wonder if he's going to move out before he's 40
>he spends his time "thinking about politics"
>he has never had a job
>he will never lose his virginity
>he will never be at a healthy weight
>he will never have any friends
>but he knows one thing
>how to run everybody else's lives

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Marxism should belong on /x/.

The working class has never and will never win the "struggle" that Marx theorized during the transition.
It is a theory based on a flawed assumption. Leftists stop just short of admitting this, claiming that "true communism" has never been tried while failing to follow that thought through.

Also don't forget to sage

yes, spain.
and it sucks

these guys are the political party that has ruled spain for most of its years of democracy

youtube.com/watch?v=48FUVzJHZxc

>abundance of socialized production
This is how you can tell communism's proponents never worked a day in their lives. They truly believe we'll all have as much as we do now because people just LOVE working that much.
When you point this out their only response is "b-but muh automation!" which isn't even exclusive to communism.

Hello comrades communism is needed when human population reaches 10 billion.

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while we are at it, anyone has that pepe dressed as stalin ,throwing a punch with a pickaxe inside it? i tried googling it but i cant fucking find it

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TY SO MUCH

>idealism doesn't work in the real world
this desu senpai, even though this is also the reason that unfettered capitalism will always result in corporatism

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what assumption? why will the working class never win?

OP how does it feel to swallow so much nigger cum you start advocating for the genocide of your own race and culture.

if EVERY communist country is ALWAYS corrupt and tyrannical, doesn't that tell us something about communism? No matter what ideal, or theory you intend to implement, in practice, communism is the most corrupt and tyrannical ideology in the history of mankind.
communists don't understand:
how an economy works
how human nature works
how idealism works
how anything works
and that's because communists are too busy HATING anything that works to UNDERSTAND anything that works. Communists will spew a lot of flowery garbage about how much they love and represent the interests of the working class, but when confronted with the kinds of things the working class says, communists react with fury and hatred. Communism is about hating anything that works, whether it's a person, a place, an animal, a technique, or an idea.

Wrong, communism implies deep understanding on how things work for it to work.

Communist countries have never existed, socialist republics trying (better or worse) to achieve communism have

BETTER DEAD THEN RED!!

You will be assimilated.

One more comrade.

I don't believe you. You can't say that every single group of people who claimed to be communists aren't really communists.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
If EVERY group of people claiming to be communists have to set the world record for killing people in their own society, have to kill anyone who tries to leave their society, and are ALWAYS corrupt and tyrannical, doesn't that say something about communism? In practice, anybody who claims to be communist and governs a nation always kills millions of people and creates economic depression. Communists ALWAYS claim to represent the working class, but when people from the working class actually speak, communists can't hide their hatred and contempt for them.

In exactly what way does it suck?

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COMMUNISM IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF FAILURE