Can someone drop some redpills on Euromaiden so we successfully counter the liberal argument that Russians are evil for interfering with elections?
Lots of stuff has been scrubbed from Wikipedia and/or tries to blame the Revolution on Russia (lol, that doesn't even make sense) but I seem to remember this whole shitshow in the following way: >US trying to get Ukraine to join the EU >YanuKKKovych wants to strengthen Russia relations >US doesn't like that, funds hippie radicals to overthrow YanuKKKovych (who was democratically elected, mind you)
>fighting in the streets >protestors literally strapping garbage can lids to their chests to be used as armor >people die but successfully overthrow YanuKKKovych >install Poroshenko >he happens to be pro-EU >what a coincidence.jpg
>Russia pissed at US >annexes Crimea >arms and funds Pro-Russian citizen militaries in eastern Ukraine regions
>US and EU now pissed >passes economic sanctions on Russia >crushes oil prices
>Russian people pissed poor and hungry >Putin losing some control over the Kremlin >not entirely happy the US and Co. is arming rebels/ISIS in the Middle East to take out Assad over a natural gas pipeline >sends Russian military to Syria
FFW a year later:
>US starts losing battle in Syria >each day becoming more and more likely that Assad will stay in power >starts making up stories about "atrocities" in A-Leppo Now we are here.
>Successfully counter the liberal argument that Russians are evil Nothing's going to matter, everyone still thinks that Russia started shit in Georgia despite every country and UN fact finding mission stating otherwise.
Evan James
I mean you guys did send tanks into Georgia. It didn't look like a good situation there
Btw, I've heard that Russia has been slowing expanding into Georgia (like literally a few feet per year lol) since 2008. Any truth to that?
Tyler Lee
>I mean you guys did send tanks into Georgia. Yeah, that's what i mean. Read the UN report if you're interested.
Lucas Roberts
There's nothing to be redpilled about
Ukrainians don't want to be under dominant russian influence - this has historical precedents
Read about Zaporozhyan Sich, Sich Riflemen, OUN-UPA or how Ukrainians wanted to get their own state after WW1
There's no conspiracy here
Benjamin Smith
I was 16 when it happened but you guys didn't even fight anyone in Georgia, right?
I remember seeing footage of Russian tanks entering Georgia like a bunch of autists and not doing anything
At one point late in the video he calls someone retarded
Tough crowd though
Nathan Ramirez
>There's nothing to be redpilled about there is evidence in this very same thread showing that the US interferred in ukraine, practically organizing euromaidan
and if you knew anything about the history of foreign policy of the US govt, you'd know that this is nothing new, at all.
Luke Williams
That sounds like the official Russian version
>PM overt Russian mole along with entire cabinet >all belonged to the old communist party before collapse >Ukraine run by oligarchs and commies >running economy and military into the ground >making the country ripe and wanting Russian rule >people know this >Yanukovich & Co ousted >Ruskies butt hurt >make up stories about "Polish snipers" and neo nazis holding 50% voted (small number of football hooligans) >CIA elects Poroshenko >Ukraine run by CIA and oligarchy >Russia more butt hurt >Burn down building with people and claim Muh Nazis did it >Ukrainian nationalism strongest since fall of communism >Ruskies decide to annex crimea >Ruskies fund bandits in East Ukraine >Ruskies send heavy equipment and personnel >Ruskies shoot down helis and Ukrainian cargo planes on a regular basis >mistake Malaysia Airlines for Ukrainian cargo plane >lots of innocent bloodshed by both sides >west sending non lethal aid >stalemate
Pic related, the hippies op is referring to in euromaidan.
Josiah Reyes
Dude there's like 5 hour videos of hippies getting shot in the streets
Jeremiah Allen
>I have a vid of George Friedman admitting it at a lecture to oil execs for the lazies: at 18:50
some of those were anarchists... the fucking retards thought they were going to bring anarchy to ukraine or something. they ended benefiting neo-nazis.
I actually talked to one of those retards in IRC.
William Thompson
I think it's just a microphone thing, he's funny.
also that moment when he almost calls the chinese chinamen.
Have you heard of Peter Ziehan?
Henry Ward
Have not. Does he have knowledge and academic credentials like Friedman?
Matthew Peterson
Wut.
I watched the streams live. It was mostly elderly and middle aged people and hooligans. The same hooligans ended up forming the current right sector and Azov.
The right sector are mock nazis as a response to Russian nationalism, empirialism and funding of Antifa. They themselves probably realise nazism isn't really an export ideology.
Lincoln Sanchez
Look at these Antifa and hippies with their shaved heads, 14/88 and WPWW crosses.
Kek, easy to mistake one scum for another.
However nice to see them grow out of that and form a somewhat coherent nationalist movement.
Eli Ross
He's a former academic, worked with stratfor for a chief analyst now has his own company. He's a bit more technical and is an excellent lecturer.
Every 4th of July stratfor reposts a 5 or so year old article about why America is so powerful. I'd post the screenshot but I'm on my iPad and the article is long
Still a good read though
Carson Kelly
You are forgeting that large portion of The Ukraine is is inhabited by Russian.
Carson Butler
check out geopolitical futures, it's george's new company.
