Why is Sup Forums Christian?

The old testament is literally Judaism.

The new testament contains the acts of Jesus who was essentially a socialist who believed we should let foreigners in our homes, turn the other cheek (be huge cucks) and give everything we own to the poor.

Remind me why you consider yourselves Christian again? The only belief system compatible with Fascism, National Socialism or Ancapism is agnosticism or atheism.

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>Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

>Leviticus 19:19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

Turning other cheek was also taken out of context, just like all Atheists do. They don't know the Bible at all yet they feel like speaking about it.
You might as well stop talking.

Organized religion is what gives power and strength to a people. 7th century Arabs were small tribes of squabbling goat herders. They conquered half of Europe within 100 years of Muhammad's death.

>The new testament contains the acts of Jesus who was essentially a socialist who believed we should let foreigners in our homes, turn the other cheek (be huge cucks) and give everything we own to the poor.

Yup.

>Jesus was a socialist

Yeah so much so that he told everyone to pay taxes to a foreign government that had occupied the country. Look out Marx.

values, morals, traditions.

left wing values?

Right Wing values are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization

Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven

When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...

... he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical

Sup Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!

Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"

Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"

But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!

That is not going to fly.

Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".

That pic is fucking retarded, just conveniently ignore the massive number of conservative Christians and pretend the EU of all fucking organisations are Christians instead of anti religious Marxists.

This.

Europe goes, or Christianity goes, we can't have both.

> the massive number of conservative Christians

those " conservative Christians" dont give a shit about immigration

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126802/Christians-likely-left-wing-liberal-views-immigration-equality.html

do you really believe that immigration reached new record numbers under the Tories because of some accident?

>posts Jew books
>Something something Jesus because a Roman pagan emperor decided they should be lumped together
K.

Says the guy who has never read the bible and regurgitates facebook posts.

Atheists have none.

>lalalala I'm being retarded on purpose and ignoring you lalalalala

K

Says the guy who has never read the Gospel and thinks Jesus said "my kingdom is of THIS world", "the strong shall inherit the Earth" and that Paul and Peters were cruzaders screaming DEUS VULT

>1,500 years of Christian steel
>(which atheists will tell you was used only for savage oppression and genocide)
>Suddenly Karl Marx appears
>Turns out Christianity is actually weak and toothless
>So the previous accusation of violence is somewhat confusing

Then why are muslims, not atheists, the ones raping children on the streets, while the Pope applauds?

>during Christianity there was no degeneracy but many great empires and creations of Man
>suddenly atheism turns up
>Europe begins to decline in every sense
>Majority of population are socialist atheists
>"Christianity is to blame for this."

> 1,500 years of Christian steel

when did that happen?

for the first 300 years they embraced death while their enemies killed them

then when they got to power, Christianity didn't save the Western Roman Empire and it got cucked by visigodos

the fate of the Eastern One was even worse

Eastern rome remained christian and got cucked and by god, it got cucked hard, to this day their capital is still turk and muslimn

to believe that Christianity is about making empires strong is absurd

Why did Saint Augustine write that it was not a christian concern the existence or not of wordly kingdoms?

Why were Christians unable to save even their fucking holy land from the Muslims, if they are the religion of earthly power that you believe they are?

Why is the North Africa now muslim, if it was once christian and roman?

That they didn't manage to screw things completely over was an accident of history, not for lack of trying

and most importantly of all questions, why has Christianity become an enabler of the muslim invasion of Europe, if it is such religion of earthly power and "the strong will inherit the Earth" as you seem to believe?

why are all the christian mainstream churches pro-refugee, if christian doctrine says "hate your enemy, and do not lend to them all they want" instead of the opposite as you claim?

The strange thing is that "christians" like you are a minority within Christianity itself that they claim to represent, with everyone from the Pope to the Anglican Churches to the Protestant Churches to the Greek Orthodoxs actively cucking for the destruction of the West

The Pope literally points to the same verses that I do to justify his doctrine, yet you come here to tell me that he is wrong, and I am wrong, and even damn Jesus and paul were wrong tho, because some medieval crusader decided to recreate christianity as a earthly cult of power in order to sack Constantinople!

>>suddenly atheism turns up
>>Europe begins to decline in every sense

You do know that the maximum global extent of European Empires was 1900 right? waaay after the Enlightenment had broken the back of the Church


The moment you are thinking about, the Christian-dominated Middle Ages, was a period of decadence, that saw Islam take the Holy Lands and the Balkans, while the mongols ravaged the East of Europe, that would only end with the paganizing Renaissance and the break up of the church power with the reformation

Atheists are liars and degenerates.

>"Them stoning you was excessive but stop being a slut"
>Anti slut shaming

Christianity is the religion of degeneration itself

If you glorify weakness and demonize strenght you are creating the last man, the weak progressive post-christian nu-male

>says arabs conquered half of europe back then
>looks at flag

Makes sense.

> Organized religion is what gives power and strength to a people

Organized religion is what made 900 people kill themselves in Jonestown as well

So basically Christianity is better than European Paganism, but Islam is better than Christianity.

Guess we should all convert to the ultimate Faith then, huh?

>just conveniently ignore the massive number of conservative Christians

""""massive number""""

In your dreams.

I don't think there were any single Fascist leader who was atheist/agnostic cunt they all went on Communist side stop spreading the lies.

I am sure Franco,Salazar,Mussolini,Hitler Degrelle,Pavelic,Tiso etc.. knew what is best for their nations much more then you do.

Jesus wasn't a socialist. The first Christians weren't socialist, they were Christian, lol

Atheistic Socialism borrowed from Christianity and replaced God with man, and the various horrors and flavors are what follows. Sharing because I agree to is one thing, forced redistribution via coercion is quite another. You've also relinquished very important context from the turn the other cheek and give everything you own to the poor

Also nice pasta.

Yeah, that's because white people are racially superior and will always in some way prosper. However thanks to Christian morality whites have turned into self-flagellating queers and we need to rectify this lest the white race bring itself to extinction for the sake of looking pious.

Jesus was a carpenter.
Jesus was anti-death penalty and pro forgiveness, but still said that the adultery was bad, the stoning was just too much. He even said you shouldn't even look at other women, and sex takes two to tango, so the whole anti-slut shaming shit is bullshit. He didn't organize a community, he was homeless after all. He wasn't anti-wealth, he was anti-corruption. And he fucking had a story of how you shouldn't be jealous of other people's pay. God gave us free will, so we can choose what we do, so we can choose to help the poor, care for the sick, feed the hungry, house the homeless, etc on our own. We don't need no government to do that for us, capitalist countries helped more people than any other group of countries, socialists murder their own folks.

"do not save treasures for tomorrow", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven" and "love for money is the root of all evil" is talk about greed. I work, I get paid, I spend my money on myself and others. I even do social work in Jesus' name.

The current pope is a fucking Jesuit, a traitor lefty inside the catholic church. The pope doesn't do anything good, he backs down on abortion, he is using his position to make political statements and to pervert the christian faith.
If God wanted us to be equal, he would've made us equal. But God gave us talents and formed every single one of us different from the rest. We are the salt of the earth, the light of the world, not some socialist, egalitarian drones.

The solution to ailing white society is to get a new order "handed down" from Yahweh / Allah.

OT was basically rousing some ancient Israeli tribes to band together, kick the asses of neighboring tribes, escape slavery and create their own sovereign nation that would rule the world.

NT was basically rousing Jews to revise their canon and create a version of the temple that can be a little more applicable to people not descended from the original Israeli tribes, and carve out a sphere of influence in the power vacuum left by dying Roman empire. Problem with this is it was accomplished early and lacks a specific long-term action plan after that.

Quran was Muhammad getting an order from God via the angel Gabriel that all the tru Arabs had to band together and conquer the Arabian Peninsula and then the entire world. This has a clear actionable item, kill all the nonbelivers and create a one-world (Arabic) government.

So imagine if somebody in England or US got a visit from a different angel saying, for example, Gabriel was discovered to be a traitor and the real order of Yahweh is for English-speaking white people to band together, destroy Islam, close the borders of Britain and the US, nuke China and recreate the society of the 1950s. White culture could be saved within 100 years. It's really that easy we just need somebody with charisma to "be visited by an angel" if you know what I mean. Brigham Young tried but his shit lacked focus.

Why are anglos the worst posters?

Mussolini was an open atheist.
Hitler was a crypto-atheist.

>Degrelle

First time I actually see someone mentioning him.

Props to you

No it isn't a surprise. What's funny is no atheist I know reads any theology, or any serious theologian based in objective moralism I.e belief in God. No sound theology can have subjective morality since there is only one good, God, and all is good that flows through him. Thus he can only be subjective.

The obvious reason they don't read Christian arguments is that all theology of the last 150 are forces to be reckoned with. I've made it a point to read atheist books so I know best how to combat their silly ideas. I actually enjoy debating atheists irl for this reason. It's funny to watch them play their mind games and weasel their way out of reason, to observe their open contradictions in terms, to see them try so hard to argue that they themselves are an accident.

"He who never thirsts for God here, will thirst for him before he has been dead a minute".

Britain is majority Atheist and the media and common people are in favour of multiculturalism and third world immigration, as well as the moral relativism this requires.

There's more Atheism in the native young than the native old, and the native young support these self-destructive ideals more than the more religious old.

>Mussolini
You mean the one that agreed with OP about everything and made this publicly known?

why is Sup Forums being spammed with pro-jewish shit?

ITT /Reddit/ general

This is a Communist Christian board

Except the majority of the young are atheists who would mock and scorn such a person, as well as defending Islam with the passion of...Well, a muslim.

>The only belief system compatible with Fascism, National Socialism or Ancapism is agnosticism or atheism.

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>Britain is majority atheist
What planet are you living on? Pic related.

>There's more Atheism in the native young than the native old, and the native young support these self-destructive ideals more than the more religious old.
It's the native old who fucked Britain to begin with and ended our own empire.

How exactly are they less self-destructive when they voted in Labour for half a century? When they fought tooth and nail to keep Mosley out of politics? Mind you the young probably are worse, you're probably right there. But what is clear is that Britain has been getting thrown away for the past century atheism or no.

And as I say, this is because of Christian morality. Not because of a lack of explicit faith in Jesus. No, it is Christian morality that's leading Europe to death and we need to resist it.

>nonviolent
wrong
>wasn't American
wrong
>anti-wealth
wrong
>anti-death penalty
wrong
>anti-public prayer
wrong
>never anti-gay
wrong
>never mentioned birth control
wrong
>brown skinned
wrong
>homeless
wrong
>community organizer
very wrong

people who don't read the Bible should not talk about the Bible.

Well what does Marvel Comics do when they notice their book sales decreasing? They reboot their franchises, right? They re-invent their characters. They hire new artists. Yahweh is based on a 4,000 year old Israeli desert god. Make him cooler. Make the new angel be cool and appealing to the demographic you're trying to reach. Maybe he's a gamer with dyed hair who likes energy drinks and CS:GO tournaments. Get creative, know your audience. You want ideological control you gotta get good at marketing

>atheist
youtube.com/watch?v=BR8tVB7sNxc

State atheism murdered millions

>A poll in 2004 by the BBC put the number of people who do not believe in a god at 39%.
>A compilation of some sociological studies indicates that roughly 30-40% of the British population does not have a belief in a god, but only 8% self identify as convinced atheist.

So that pie chart is misleading since it's done on what they identity as rather than what their beliefs are.

>How exactly are they less self-destructive when they voted in Labour for half a century?
Not many grey hairs in Antifa, or protesting Brexit.

>Christian morality that's leading Europe to death and we need to resist it.

With what? If it's raw strength you want why not just both follow a strong religion and also resist Christianity by converting to Islam? If that's not what you want, what is your alternative?

Not related but what the fuck was just with my captcha just then? "Select all images that feel romantic"?

>During christianity there was no degeneracy
t. literally all the early popes

>Ancapism
why this is a thing ?????????

1st post = best

THIS

>no atheist I know reads any theology
Same.
I always wonder. How atheist can argue about christian's stuff- without any knowlige about it ?

>>A compilation of some sociological studies indicates that roughly 30-40% of the British population does not have a belief in a god, but only 8% self identify as convinced atheist.
I hope you realize that 40% is still a minority.

>Not many grey hairs in Antifa, or protesting Brexit.
I see more than a few grey hairs on this man's head.

>With what?
Nietzschean atheism.
Take out nihilism and religion in one go.

>le socialist jesus meme

Being kind and charitable is the not the same thing as wanting a centrally-planned economy and forced redistribution of resources.

The Old and New Testament are not Judaism, they are the faith, law, belief and word of the Almighty Most High Lord. The Only Creator God.

Judaism is the satanic kabbalistic religion bent on defiling all that is holy

Kind and charitable is how socialists describe themselves too.

Every atheist I met is a functioning member of society, but they have shitty morals.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

OUR GOD lS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

And Labour claims to be the party of the common worker, yet screws over british workers by importing shitskins to undercut wages. What's your point? What someone describes themselves as is irrelevant.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WlSDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

OUR GOD lS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WlSDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE RElGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

>Nietzschean atheism.

Really? I would have said some sort of semi-theistic ancestor worship. Then there's also the nationalist edge that's needed without having the toothless baggage. We already put ordinary people into a mythological context as part of a national narrative so it's not a huge leap to see Boadicea as a martyr for the cause then fought for by Alfred.

Facts are secondary when it comes to a nationalist belief structure.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WlTH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

OUR GOD lS AN AWESOME GOD

HE RElGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WlSDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

My point is it's not much better than real socialists when he's going to send you to an infinitely long ultra-gulag if you don't be as kind and charitable as Jesus says.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WlTH WlSDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

>It's another "Sup Forumstheists try to talk about a book they've never read" thread.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD lS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

>when atheists comment on Gods Word episode 10000000000

That's the thing, I'm not a nationalist either. (Unless you count racialist pan-Europeanism as nationalism).

The only reason so far I've been speaking so highly of fascist figures is because fascism is largely a step in the right direction with many flaws.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WlTH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD lS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

>gets destroyed in an argument then starts acting retarded
Are you Jewish?

That's not how it works, my friend. You go to Purgatory, a little detour on the way to paradise. How long you stay there is different for everybody. You add up all your mortal sins and multiply that number by 50. Then you add up all your venial sins and multiply that by 25. You add that together and that's your sentence. I figure I'm gonna have to do 6,000 years before I get accepted into heaven and 6,000 years is nothing in eternity terms. I can do that standing on my head. It's like a couple of days here.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

OUR GOD lS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

OUR GOD lS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD lS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

>(Unless you count racialist pan-Europeanism as nationalism).

Pointless. Would you travel to Spain to give your life for them? Would you expect a Hungarian to come to Britain to do the same?

This is why the Golden Age of Evropa has to come later. We have to deal with our tumours at home first.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE RElGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD lS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

Christians are a little deceived, though they have most of the truth. Talmud is shit but Torah is the basest document in existence.

nazarenespace.com/profiles/blogs/how-the-church-fathers-invented-a-new-religion-the-apostasy-and-r

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WlTH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

I wouldn't be surprised if we were being raided by some group of autists

Really? Was Paul misinterpreting Jesus? Pic related

Would I? Yes, as I see it Europe is a treasure to be protected and a wound to any of it is a wound to all of it.

Would I expect anyone else to do the same? Sadly not, I'm very aware that my position is a minority position.

You are lying. Paul carried a sword idiot.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE RElGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WlSDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

Paul carried a sword liar.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WlTH WlSDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

Quit misrepresenting the words of Jesus. Peter could NEVER be interpreted to have "lived by the sword." Jesus made a promise to Peter and was talking about the men taking him into custody - who DID LIVE BY THE SWORD.

OUR GOD lS AN AWESOME GOD

HE RElGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD IS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD

Stop being so ignorant about self defense that Jesus advocated for. Paul carried a sword dipshit.

OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD

HE REIGNS FROM HEAVEN ABOVE

WITH WISDOM, POWER, AND LOVE

OUR GOD lS ONE HECK OF AN AWESOME GOD