Will transgendered people ever be considered normal in America? By normal I mean being an openly trans elementary school teacher or athlete without any stigma whatsoever. As of today, being trans is considered a mental illness by some people.
And if so, how long will it take? Gays have been fighting for equal rights for half a century and it's only recently that most of modern western society considers being gay as no big deal. How long will it take for trans people to be just normal members of society and not mentally deranged sexual deviants? What laws need to change? Or what laws must be introduced to protect their rights?
>As of today, being trans is considered a mental illness by some people Gender dysphoria is literally a mental illness
Lucas Edwards
That's what they said about homosexuality for a hundred years and now it's more or less normal. How long before it's normal for trans people is what im asking.
Samuel Reed
You don't need surgery to fit in your "homosexual" body. You don't need hormones for life to fit in your "homosexual" body "Homosexual" are still fertile. >Why not saying gay as it is widley used nowdays? Because it points out the stupidity of point.
Jason Miller
That's different. Gay people truly are faggots but trannies are legitimately delusional.
Luke Rivera
I'll never fuck them that's for sure... even if Trudeau mandates it
Liam Martinez
fucking hit the nail on the head
Parker Carter
No its a serious mental illness that needs to be eradicated. You are feeding the delusions of sick people.
Michael Foster
If you asked me years ago my answer would be "When the technology exists to give them what they want" since that's kind of my personal stance. But when I come in contact with other trans people it's just weird. I feel like they're either doing this stuff because it's a fetish, or because they misunderstand being male or female. Now I feel like even if they were the people they physically wish they were they'd still go off the deep end about not getting the kind of attention they want. I wish these people could be who they want to be and prove me wrong, but the technology isn't there. Since it isn't they'll usually end up being broad shouldered, male pattern balding, man-faced, etc, "women" and there's this almost uncanny valley thing going on. Until they look "right" it'll never be normalized since it's obvious just at a glance, that something very wrong is going on there.
Caleb Wilson
It is a mental illness.
Now that doesn't mean we have to kill trans people or anything, but we should have more options other than transitioning as means to deal with this huge issue that is being trans. Personally I am doing coping therapy and learning to accept that I was born male and will always be, and trying to be happy with the cards I've been dealt with. Transition isn't the solution for everyone neither is SRS. I just wish for trans people to not be hated irrationally or discriminated against like a schizo or cripple is not discriminated against. I don't want special treatment, just to be treated nicely.
The issue is all muddled up by the fact that a lot of people who aren't realy trans are jumping on the nu-trans bandwagon propped up by the media and the left. They treat us like their pets, like we are their trophies of tolerance and virtue signalling. And in the end we trannies are the ones getting fucked by it, cue inevitable backlash by right wing/whatever people who will push back against trans people's rights to fight off the leftists, like in the US with the bathroom issues. It used to be that you could go to the bathroom you passed as, but now it's an issue no matter what you look like.
Please, just give us a break.
t. tranny
Jose Turner
No its only going to get worse for their cause from now on...Its a mental illness not a lifestyle choice
Mason Brooks
Here's an idea stop calling yourself trannies intersex or whatever. if your born a male then your a male. a female then your a female.
Blake Stewart
Yes one day they will, around that time the vast majority of people will reject the idea of God and He will return and purge all the degenerates. :-)
Michael Cooper
But my mental issues are very real. Did you not read my post?
Samuel Walker
good attitude user
Jace Edwards
it's hard to treat you fuckers nice when mtfs shit up everything, even my niche fetishes. None of you are capable of understanding non-cuck straight guys don't want you, and will never fucking want you. you are repulsive to us, and nothing's gonna ever change that
Ryder Phillips
>just to be treated nicely Well if you faggots go around yelling "I IDENTIFY AS A FUCKING TRANS-β-BUTYLENE CHECK YOUR ISOMER PRIVILEGE SHITLORDS", then of course no one is going to treat you nicely. Like, dont even mention it if nobody is asking. I dont go around telling everyone that i am a violinist, why the fuck do you faggots think you can do just that and expect nice treatment? Nobody likes show-offs.
k now kindly fuck off freak
Levi Wright
I actually have a real question, and I hope it doesn't come off as mean or rude. Do you work out? Like do you actively go to the gym and lift? I've seen/heard/found that people who participate in a /fit/ lifestyle after developing practices, ideas, or beliefs that tend to be LGTBBQ lose them or have a much less interest. Even with myself, I used to be into some pretty gay shit that I'm high key ashamed of, but within like weeks of seriously beginning to work out I lost complete interest in it.
I'm just wondering if this isn't the case for you if you have been working out regularly, but if you haven't do you think you would see some of the same results if you got into lifting?
John Thompson
Trannies and Tranny enablers are all mentally ill. A RL friend of mine swears it is scientific fact that Men who think they're women literally have a "female brain" in their skulls. I only found like one article on the net that sounds like it was written by a tumblrite dwarf planet trying to sound scientific.
Caleb Bailey
If I go to a psychiatrist and tell him I want him to blind me, he'll prescribe me medication and therapy
If I tell them I want to chop my penis off, they'll set me up with some hormones and schedule a surgery.
Anthony Hall
Yeah, I understand perfectly why a straight man wouldn't wanna hook up and fuck with a "girl" with a dick. I think the trans people who expect straight men to want to have sex with them as they would a real girl are just delusional, but it's no secret that that is what they all wish. Personally I'd love to live in a time where scienece would be able to put my brain in an artificial female body and just act like I was never male to begin with, but it's not happening any time soon. The best next thing is to transition and be treated like a girl by others, including your loved one.
It's very hard, and not everyone can accept that a "girl" that wasn't born that way and that may or may not have a dick is just another person looking for love too.
And trust me nobody likes an ugly, man-in-drag looking honkey ass hon, other trannies included.
I'm trying to solve my life in a way that doesn't end in me commiting suicide on my 30s.
Here's the thing, normal actual trans people very rarely act that way, they want to be discrete about it, not shout it out. That's exactly what I talked about in my post, the nu-trans people who jump on the bandwagon as the new hip and cool gender binary bullshit. Do you think people who just want to be a girl and weren't born as one genuinely want to go around screaming "I'm trans give me privielges" and other similar shit? These leftists pushing for bullshit gender identities and a removal of gender roles are my enemy as much as they are yours. Do you think someone who wants to conform to the opposite gender defined roles wants to remove gender roles and identity? That goes against the whole concept of being trans.
Connor Watson
My solution is to kill them all.
No trans no problem
Same applies to pedophile
Tyler Myers
Having an issue with a transgendered person is not the way to go. I don't blame an Alzheimer patient for having Alzheimers after all.
As long as they are undergoing treatment and are aware of their illness, I have no issue with them being part of the workforce.
Hunter Sullivan
Alright, fine. Take your meds, kid, I will allow you to live.
Angel Scott
nope always degenerates, total abominations
Blake Rivera
I've done sport all my life and only very recently I quit serious sports to just instead do a bit of running and small workout to have an even girlier feature than I already have.
Sport never made me feel different from what I feel, but I don't know how other people might be.
My meds are antipsychotics to not be a tranny, so yeah better take them.
Jordan Taylor
How about when you grow old? What then? Do you really want to be a old woman? I think most trans people don't actually want to be a woman. But they instead want to be a young pretty girl for their whole life, which is impossible.
Charles Myers
sorry OP, it's considered a mental illness by us trannies as well :) have this poem i wrote about transexuality
I dream, I dream, and in this dream I dream of men, and it may seem That I am gay, but don't be mean I dream of making Earth man-clean
I'd find a fence, wire them up Strap on a battery, and, yup I'd watch them die, flesh turn to black I'd watch them struggle, then watch them slack
I'd nail them up how Jesus was But I'd be one-upping Jesus, because An extra nail will find its way Between their balls! And ouch, they'd say!
I'll find their wives and cuck them white Let husband come home to a shocking sight Then me and wife will make a stew A man stew made of men like you
Cause I hate men! And I would pay To see there come a judgement day When I would become everyman's bane And I would make them know true pain
Dylan Diaz
I'm going to be an old man, but I don't think people be it trans or not ever think about growing old in a positive way. Nobody likes growing old, I think.
It's already hard accepting you'll get old and gross, imagine having to deal with that on top of being in the wrong body and feeling uncomfortable and disgusted with your own self at all times.
Adrian White
You're just another proxy for the left to try and push the overton window with, all who willingly go along with that do deserve to be discriminated against. Also you're disgusting, there's something truly repulsive about trans people that isn't going to change. Children are frightened by you and most normal people are really uncomfortable being around you. If it's a mental illness then surgery isn't the option, it will never be the same and this is likely why the suicide rate post op is so high.
David Johnson
>I'll never fuck them that's for sure you sure about that?
Jacob Bell
The issue I have with trans people is the ones I met were always absolutely horrible people. Like I was chatting up this white "girl" after having a few drinks but it was a tranny. When I decided to fuck off they made a huge scene about it. Now I know all women want to be dominated by my bbc but that does not make women, both real and trans entitled to my bbc. I decide who gets my bbc and who doesn't. Now the stupid ass forgot they weren't in America and we don't take kindly to tranny freaks here so "she" was kicked out of the bar and beaten up outside by 5 guys. Course when 'she" reported it to the police they kicked "her" out of the station and told her to go back to whatever shithole "she" crawled out of.
Joseph Jones
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Leo Diaz
Vaginas are better.
Grayson Reyes
Homosexuality actually fits all definitions of mental illness. The only reason it isn't considered one anymore is because the APA collectively decided to arbitrarily make an exception for it back in the 60s. You could argue that this is an inherent shortcoming in the definition of a mental illness we've been using for 50+ years, but the point still stands
Dylan Young
Sure they are, even though you're a larper, I recommend you kill yourself. You'll never breed and your genes are weak. Biologically gas yourself.
Isaac Jackson
I didn't mean to come off as so cruel there, and from what you're saying most people who actually have gender dysphoria and aren't tumblr bandwagoners don't like being used by the left as I described, so that's good. I just think that slicing your body up so it resembles the female form slightly more doesn't make it a woman's body. Realising this after a long and expensive surgery procedure doesn't sound like a good time.
Michael Gonzalez
All estrogen will be destroyed
Angel Baker
it's called body dismorphic disorder. it ranges from lunatics that convince themselves that severed limbs is a thing to aspire to weakened people (((our fault))) not happy with their sex or gender.
Nicholas Ross
I'll let you know that children love me and that if I wasn't trans I would have probably gotten a job as a childrens caretaker or a teacher, but I decided against it because of the stigma.
>Larper And why exactly am I one? Jesus christ why are you so mean, who hurt you? Did you get diddled by a tranny? This is probably why nobody likes you.
You were but it's ok, if you had actually read all I've written you'd have seen that I said very clearly that SRS isn't the right answer for everyone, and I personally am against it. If you do hormones, you can go back. If you slice your dick up, not a chance.
Lincoln Edwards
>Vaginas are better. what are you basing that against if you've never had boipucci? if you're gonna bash something you should do it out of your own convictions and not ones rooted in paranoia and insecurity instilled by fascist fear mongers.
Tyler Diaz
All trannies are puppets of Slaanesh.
The chaos God Enjoys destroying the natural order of gender.
But we will purge you and restore order.
FOR THE GRACE OF THE MIGHT OF OUR LORD IN THE NAME OF HIS GLORY
Blake Bennett
>implying you can win vs dickgirl daemonettes
Submit, little puny guardsman.
Justin Butler
kek. your post reminds me of pic related.
Landon Morgan
Sure, but from a medical point of view its easier to just let trans people live their life like they want than to "treat" them by insisting they go back to their old self.
Alexander Brown
Wot?
Aaron Butler
Normal people still feel this way about homosexuals, despite the propaganda.
Carter Martin
At the end of the day the only real reason anyone cares is because of loss of fertility. Once medical science can create better genitals and enable some path to breeding, acceptance will skyrocket. Even moreso than gays since trans at least attempt to uphold traditional gender roles and are overall less degenerate. Most trannies would like to settle into a monogamous relationship and have a family if they could whereas gays just want to have drug fueled orgies forever. All the flamboyant pride parade stuff is mostly gays.
Cooper Jackson
If transex stop being considered a mental illness does that mean you won't need to go a psychologist to change your sex?
Charles Sullivan
>Will transgendered people ever be considered normal in America?
No because if the great satan ever goes full cuck it will no longer exist, it will be raped and pillaged, burned to the ground and renamed allahs toilet.
Eli King
>Most trannies would like to settle into a monogamous relationship hahahahahahahahaha no this is a myth right up there with "trannies are hot girls with bro brains"
the majority of trannies (especially on Sup Forums) are transbian sluts who aren't interested in monogamous relationships, and much less so traditional ones. and half the monogamous ones are lesbians trannies are degenerate sluts with high occurrence of mental illness, childhood abuse, and drug usage also the trannies who -are- into guys usually aren't into guys who want them specifically because they're trannies
t. transbian
Samuel Flores
>Same applies to pedophile
> I want to kill 60% of the worlds population
Carson Bennett
>path to breeding Yeah, I'm sure that'll happen.
Jeremiah Wilson
>60% of the men and women in the world want to fuck prepubescent kiddies no
Christopher Harris
Every trans person that I met that was "straight" (aka into men) wasn't a drug abusing, abused in childhood turbo mentally ill sluts, but all transbians are the complete opposite.
Really activates my almonds.
Jaxon Hall
If only you knew how bad things really are
60% of people are faggots, all fags are pedos.
Gabriel Howard
Transgender "people" are like 0.003% of the population, they get way more attention than they deserve.
Evan Martinez
>boipucci it's a man's dirty asshole you fucking degenerate
John Baker
Being a schizophrenic isnt considered normal.
Carson Perry
No tits and no ass. Seeing a problem.
Christian Ortiz
>60% of people are faggots wrong! >all fags are pedos I doubt that, but even so they're not 60% of the population
Christopher Kelly
eh, i know plenty of slutty bisexual / straight transgirls i'm trans so i hang out a fuckton of them if they're trans and straight they may act more reserved with men, like how women do transbians would just see you as 'bro material'
Jayden Reyes
>trannies think a normal guy is going to date them
Why do trannies have such a huge dislike against their fans?
>Openly transgender athlete FtM transexuals are too weak, too short, and have too weak bones to compete with male athletes
MtF athletes like that black tranny in UFC are cracking real women's orbital sockets and giving them brain damage
So no
And you shouldn't want the mentally ill to teach your fucking children. In 20-50 years we'll look back at this dark age of psychology and put it where it belongs with lobotomies and shock therapy Quackery
Chase Ortiz
Yes goyim.... look how pretty she is. Just take our drugs and you will look like her in no time......
Jace Perry
because they don't want to be objectified as 'girls with dicks' and transgenders get plenty of hookups among normal people. most go on dating sites, identify as cis, then reveal they're trans to guys who seem worth it
trans/trans is the purest form of love though
Easton Fisher
Are MtF post op the way to go?
Think about it. Men only really get along with other men. Women get along with no one because to them it's all about themselves. So a MtF would be loyal, wouldn't cheat, understands you just want guy time sometimes.
Jaxon Martinez
I'm trans too, I've had a couple of transbians or whatever hit on me for being cute. It just feels weird.
I like manly men.
They don't like being fetishised, but they're delusional. Your only chance as a tranny is to find either a chaser or someone who's ok with you being a tranny and has a slight tranny fetish. 99.99999% of straight men don't want a tranny, even if the tranny is a 10/10 girl.
Xavier Parker
Thanks China
Jace Hill
>will they ever be considered normal in america No, and stopped reading there because really, it's the only important point and the point from which all points will follow. I'm sure people have argued ITT how "gays are more or less accepted now" in America. I'd like those people to take a hard redpill and ask themselves whether America's acceptance is actually that, or if it is the false yet comforting flag of "tolerance." You are too different from the herd.
Nolan Bailey
he probably meant 60% of the adult male population. And he is correct. little girls are precious and QT as fuck but no man in his right mind will ever admit it outright because it's taboo and career/social suicide. closer to 80% btw.
Lucas Nelson
Oh, it will. Artificial wombs, lab-grown testicles and uteri, transplants, turning skin cells into sperm and eggs. All this stuff is in development and it will continue to be developed because it benefits normal heterosexual sterile people equally as much so there's a market. You know there's nothing more heartbreaking to normies than the hetero couple that's been married for 15 years and can't conceive because the wife had endometriosis or the husband had low sperm count. It's a field with tons of energy behind it, trans people will reap the benefits tangentially.
David Garcia
Also what the hell is up with this month's Nat Geo magazine? An entire special edition dedicated to trannies and other gender issues. How the fuck is a 9 year ready to make life changing decisions.
Oliver Cox
oh, my bad well, i guess straight transgirls wouldn't want to hit on you? i thought i liked manly man but that attraction flew off to the wind
it's risky, usually they start kids on blockers so it's not too late if they change their minds but a lot of trannies felt -like girls- as kids
Anthony Barnes
>literally lab creating humans but that will help up tangentially guys
Hunter Jones
looking for that lil qt on the left is what lead me to making this thread actually. her name is Avery Jackson. she didn't have an instagram tho. ;_;
David Foster
the girls in your image are almost certainly capable of having children, therefore it is not paedophilia Again, 60% of the population (even if just the men) are not attracted to prepubescent girls
Liam Moore
Those puberty blockers have to fuck with your mind.
Evan Walker
Transgirls that are transbians would, the ones that are straight not so much. I always liked manly men, also I'm not so sure about children knowng they're trans before they're 14 years old, no true trans person I know of felt that way before aged around 14 which is the age at which you start to gain any self consciousness and understanding of your own sexuality, coincidentially also the age at which I figured out I was trans.
Zachary Williams
'Transgender' people are officially diagnosed with an egosyntonic mental health disorder by a psychiatrist. Depending upon the mental health diagnoses manual the psychiatrist uses, the diagnosis is for Gender Identity Disorder/Gender Identity Syndrome/or Gender Dysphoria.
Less than .03% of the population is affected with GID/GIS/GD. Symptoms of this syndrome are all mental health based: depression, anxiety, unease with their bodies, suicidal thoughts. The suicide rate of GID/GIS/GD sufferers is 20% compared to under 1% of the normal population. Both the psychiatric and medical fields recognize GID/GIS/GD as a mental health issue.
Current standard treatment for the mental health diagnosis consists of psychiatric therapy and later prescription medication with synthetic hormones. Psychiatric therapy is the foundation of their treatment, and no doctor or psychiatrist proceeds with synthetic hormones without concurrent psychiatric therapy. The current treatment is recognized by both psychiatrists and medical doctors as moderately effective in reducing their rate of suicide, depression, anxiety, dysphoria, and other accompanying mental health symptoms of GID/GIS/GD to varying degrees of success. Sexual reassignment surgery is effective in relieving these mental health symptoms short term but fails to provide relief long term.
People with GID/GIS/GD have a much higher prevalence of Body Dysmorphic Disorder and Body Integrity Disorder, noting that in both, the sufferers have a pervasive delusional view of their own bodies that cripples their normal functioning. Here are 2 patients who suffer from both GID and BDD concurrently.
The transgender 'movement' works to make this mental health diagnosis seem normal, and to push legal, policy and social changes on the normal 99.97% of society, that are disproportionate to the actual numbers of sufferers of this rare mental health issue.
Colton Bailey
That's why it's all so ridiculous.
Levi Hill
The problem is mostly tgat you are deceiving someone if you date a non-trans and they find out you were once their gender too. That's like dating someone of your own gender and hiding like the other gender and have sex while you were tge same gender to force gay sex is sneaky
Jacob Roberts
It would be funny if it wasn't reality
Bentley Lewis
yeah doing molech bull sign (checked)
having butterfly on tshirt (checked)
Just another pizza-like project
Samuel Edwards
What's so wrong about being objectified?
>plenty of hookup with normal people
But 90%+ of trannies are clearly men.
Nathaniel Ortiz
Can't wait for the day that trans surgeries look so real... then they whip out a dick and expect you to accept it. Makes me sick.
Ayden Mitchell
If you have any kind of decency and hoestity as a person you'll tell the person you're dating that you're trans before leading to sex. I know I would, but I can't vouch for the rest of the trans "community".
Tyler Rogers
>Again, 60% of the population (even if just the men) are not attracted to prepubescent girls Again, you're wrong. Lets say 90% of grown men will be attracted to the girls in that pic. Maybe 10% will admit it because of the way society views it as wrong. Because we all know a still 17 year old is a child! (muh children arguement)
out of those 90% that would bang a teenager, more than half bang them as preteens, they just would never admit it. not even as a joke. There is literally nothing wrong with knowing little girls are cute. it's society that's fucked and indoctrinated.
Sebastian Mitchell
>more than half bang them *would* bang them
Eli Williams
No, faggotry is also a mental illness, and it isn't more or less normal. The Supreme Court had to sidestep the will of the people to pass the fag marriage thing.
The demographics do not favor queers here and they definitely don't favor trannies. White conservatives will pretty soon be the only whites left. Latinos and Blacks do not give a shit about gays or their "rights."
The same is true in Europe as well. The Muslims have already begun to cause conflict there over faggots, and it will only get worse.
Essentially societies that tolerate this sort of degenerate behavior are all failing societies. They will either stop it, or collapse and be replaced by societies that stop it for them.
Kayden Myers
Need to fix that balding problem.
Nolan Cox
No. this will never be seen as normal. Because trans people are mentally ill.
This does not mean they are horrible or deserve punishment or death or anything. But they are sick and need help.
You wouldn't let an anerexic starve themselves. You shouldn't let trans cut up their bodies.
Eli Gonzalez
half of 90 is 45 not 60 and either way I don't believe you, there is no evolutionary reason for men to be attracted to girls who can't reproduce, stop trying to justify your fucked up sexual proclivities by making them sound more common than they are Yes, almost all men would have sex with a 17 year old, no almost none would with an 8 year old fuck off
Carson Price
I think that best thing we can do about trans is to ignore them, this way we can cut off their power source and that is attention, without attention these mentally ill individuals will commit suicide.
Carson Cruz
i was fapping to porn since i was 8 or 9 lol daydreamed of being bridget when i was 11 or 12 i was conscious of my own sexuality long before 14, lmao
i know several transgirls who were aware of wanting to be female at a very young age and tried to crossdress as kids
possibly, but it's better to take the risk than risk having him have to go all the way through puberty
not really that's because you can't tell they're trans unless they don't pass most early transitioners (25 or earlier) look like women
Parker Watson
Beings trans is considered a mental illness by some people like doctors for example
Levi Bailey
why has /lgbt/ leaked over to this board
Hunter Nelson
jazz was trans before puberty and he still looks like a dude
Ian Evans
feel free to ignore me tranny support groups are infinitely more satisfying than talking to cis guys