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crying isn't going to make her magically win ditto ditto etc etc
Evan Price
Hey get a load of this faggot.
Carson Baker
I don't care if I never come down ~
Kayden Garcia
bump
Leo Perry
at this rate i really won't be surprised if a portal to catgirl realm opens up in tokyo
Hudson Taylor
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Joshua Murphy
Wasn't the entire difference in votes from Florida or something? Why would you judge the opinion of an entire country on one state? Are Americans really this stupid?
Alexander Thompson
High quality thread, OP.
Easton Bell
The coast guard Has info retaining to Russian intel?
Nicholas Sullivan
Hey fag guess what... . ...
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Christian Barnes
Now tell us what the popular vote is without California.
Alexander Williams
Hillary also lost the popular vote.
Jacob Garcia
What did Russia say that was false?
William Bell
Fake news, falsehood and homosexual.
Carson Cook
That Anonymous Manger from /qa/ sure was right about all the high quality threads on Sup Forums now that lefty mod got fired.
Isaiah Roberts
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Noah Collins
>le california doesnt count because i dont agree with them XDDDDDDDDDDD lelelelelele huehuehue *tips fedora*
Kevin Roberts
Hillary won the mexican vote. So many mexicans voted for her she could had beat Peña Rubio.
Grayson Morris
yes lets focus on russia and ignore the fact that they discovered TSSCI on private unclass clinton's server
Evan Carter
It was Cali. She won by like 4 mil in California
Hudson Gutierrez
You are a gay faggot, OP. FSB and MID both confirm, must be true. Do not post or Sup Forums will get banned in Russia for being too gay
Charles Sanchez
That just makes his victory even sweeter, or saltier tbqh.
Alexander Cook
t. The constitution
Lucas Allen
>The DEA says it was the Russians Excuse me? I had no idea election fraud had to do with enforcing drug laws
Brandon Stewart
Hi we're the USA and we got hacked by a 3rd world country and if that doesn't make you laugh at what a bunch of useless cucks we have become we've got an even better joke for you, we're going to stamp and cry and whine and piss ourselves because the guy who promised to Make America Great Again instead of the bunch of useless cucks we are actually won.
Isaac Walker
ur bad at this 0/8 thread made me click but nothing of value
Kayden Walker
>doesn't matter cry more, faggot
Carter Morris
Oh hey, Vlad! Fancy seeing you here! Don't forget to press the ON button on your proxy next time! :)
Elijah Thomas
Still not a majority. Trump won a majority of the states and a majority of the electoral college. Hillary won a majority of nothing except votes of sore losers apparently.
Jace Phillips
kys
Ryder Jenkins
Someone explain why the fuck we have 17 intelligence agencies, and what the hell they even are? 1. CIA 2. FBI 3. NSA? 4. DHS
Okay, that's all I can think of. For another 13 what do we get down to, the department of educations truancy intelligence service?
Josiah Foster
russia's intelligence agencies are very respectable, don't undersell them. unlike china they cover their tracks well, so i would not be surprised if they didn't find evidence to attribute a breach to russia. i would be skeptical of basic evidence (bash history not deleted, log/auth not modified), because thats some amateur shit i'd expect even the goatfuckers in iraq to do.
Brody Lee
why does any country need 17 intel agencies?
Jordan Miller
because we're the best country on earth leaf
Parker Lopez
We don't have 17 intelligence agencies, 4 of those 17 are military branches.
Jackson Hernandez
Hey look, statements of falsehood.
None of the three letter agencies have concluded it was the Russians.
Kill yourself faggot.
Kevin Russell
just because an agency is an intel agency doesn't mean they serve even remotely the same purpose. nga does satellites and what not, nsa does remote/foreign intel as well as domestic if you count ntoc, dhs does domestic but for different purposes cia can lick my balls, etc
don't forget, usa has a global outreach so a lot of manpower and agencys are needed to power that.
Asher Moore
So you want California to hold sway over every other state? I'm glad your founding fathers weren't as retarded as you..
Ian Jones
>allows illegal immigrants to vote >cries about Russians unfairly influencing the election
Gavin Reyes
no, I want their vote to count the same as everyone else's. Why is that so hard to understand?
Carter Butler
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Benjamin Roberts
Hey guess what >TRUMP WILL BE THE 45TH PRESIDENT
Dominic Murphy
That's literally not true though
Isaiah Bell
Because those agencies were right about iraq having WMD's.
And he's still going to be YOUR PRESIDENT for the next eight years.
Easton Ortiz
They were all wrong about Iraq, though.
Wyatt Moore
No they weren't. Bush was. Just like Drumpf is wrong that he has a "mandate"
Elijah Reed
It does though you fucking retard
Jordan Sanchez
>55 electoral votes, roughly as many as like 18 other states combined >doesn't count
Jack Bell
no it doesn't. someone's vote in MI, WI, and OH counts FARRRRR more than someone in CA.
Bentley Diaz
>because we're the best country on earth leaf so it takes all 17 of them to get the wrong answer? winning!
Evan Sanchez
By 17 do you mean one that refused to talk to congress and only talked to wapo?
Jace Nguyen
>these agencies are right! >except when they disagree with my views, such as Iraq having WMD's and Muslims being a threat to America Stay mad, m8
Landon Phillips
It doesn't. CA is safely blue, TX is safely red. OH voters on the other hand have extremely important votes. why should that matter? all votes should be equal
Jack Hernandez
Its balanced out you fucking retard. The difference of weight is greater between Texas and Vermont. Each state gets an automatic 2 electoral votes to ensure that they have a voice and it won't get entirely drowned out by bigger states.
David Powell
They already did talk to Congress. Man, people on this board seem to have a lot of misinformation
Owen Murphy
>cries about illegal immigrants voting >OK with Russians rigging the election.
He's an illegal president, but nobody seems to care.
Jeremiah Wilson
Why do the Dakota's interests count twice as much on a Senate level than California? Because they're split in two? How much different are those two states?
Adrian Ross
Demographics, wants/needs change all the time. PA, MI, WI was supposed to be the blue wall and it flipped. All votes being equal goes against individual nation states as written in the constitution.
If you don't like the constitution, then leave.
Ethan Sullivan
You clearly don't understand what I'm saying.
>If you don't like the constitution, then leave. clearly you don't understand the purpose of the Constitution
Grayson Murphy
Yeah like the people who think 17 intelligence agencies said that Russia hacked the DNC. Lots of misinformation there.
Hudson Collins
You could say the same thing about virginia and west virgina (one is blue one is red), North and south carolina (one is a swing the other is usually red)
No you are the one that doesnt understand it, each state is supposed to be ran as an individual nation state. If one state has too much power it gives them authority over everyone else. It would be the 51% always dictates what the other 49% has to do and there would never be any change up.
Sebastian Bell
>Russians rigging the election. how, exactly >OK with illegal immigrants voting fuck the rules when it works in your favor eh?
Leo Jenkins
These agencies are the ones that warned Bush that Iraq DIDNT have WMD's. He didn't listen to them.
They also gave him the urgent report in Pic related. Again he didn't listen. Look how that turned out. Check the date on it.
Isaac Sanders
This guy gets it
Jeremiah Baker
What incentive does any other state have to even remain in the Union if three other states decide every election?
Jeremiah Morris
sage
John Wright
This is an actual real retard. I know because the OP responded. Sore loser OP? eat shit
Nicholas Russell
our voter turnout was ~55% and there are confirmed illegals state jumping to vote again, thus inflating clinton's numbers look up project veritas
Asher Nelson
Because FPTP is a garbage system that nobody has incentives to fix.
Grayson Walker
>the 17 agency misinformation campaign
The US funds ISIS in Syria in order to stop a Russian gas pipeline
Wyatt Nelson
>all votes are equal but some votes are more equal than others What a shitty system
Daniel Peterson
>Thinks exposing the DNC is rigging the election
Brayden Miller
>california, oregon, new york, new jersey, and washington are all staunchly blue states >republicans don't show up to the polls because they'll lose.
In the states Hillary won, without California, she had on average 55.3% of the vote. She won California 61.5%. What does this mean? It could either mean people in California are just disproportionately democrats in California, but the more likely outcome is that Republicans just didn't show up at all.
Julian Morales
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Jayden Williams
>TRUMP LOST THE POPULAR VOTE
See Too bad that's not how the game works and hasn't worked in over 100 years.
I remember the anti-Trump crowd was laughing at Trump a year ago because he was complaining about how certain states changed their rules at the last minute like only registered Rs can vote for Trump or how you had to vote for the delegates that supporting Trump but they withheld the info on which delegates supported Trump. Hell even El Rato was talking shit and telling Trump to stop whining about the already set rules.
Liam Sullivan
The Russians rigged nothing. "worst case" scenario is they hacked the DNC in early 2016 to dig up dirt to discredit HRC.
This was way before trump had the nom on lockdown. They did it because they disliked Clinton, and didn't care who won as long as it wasn't her.
They didn't hack voting machines, or anything of the sort. They released private BUT TRUE information about her.
Jonathan Green
We have a population of 300 million. Each state has a diverse set of needs, wants, economies and demographics. You can't give one state too much power over other states, otherwise groups of people needs would never be met. This would be like the EU having the cucked countries overwhelming vote for rapefugees while small countries don't want them but their voices get drowned out, because muh votes aren't equal.
Easton Wood
the consensus in california is our vote for president doesnt matter cuz we are confirmed democrat every time
Angel Price
>you're only saying it because you lost! That's not an argument, and this is democracy, not chess, the will of the people was activly ignored, you cannot deny that more people wanted hillary than trump, and you can't deny that this has happened twice in 2 decades, the system isn't working.
Joshua Perry
>17 agencies said the Russians hacked None of us actually know that
What we do know is: >CIA Briefed the Senate >FBI Briefed the House >Someone in the CIA Brief briefed WaPo on the brief >WaPo published the brief of the brief >Everyone followed suit
Gavin Barnes
did he really? i have doubts about the numbers
Jaxon Green
please vote in 2020
Brody Murphy
Oooh an appeal to authority AND an appeal to "majority", 0 points I'm afraid.
You do realize without the 30 million illegals and the 10 million black voting slaves, she would have lost by 40 million votes? Nobody gives a fuck about these people since they don't contribute. Get the fuck out.
Brandon Allen
What incentive do they have if a few concentrated areas decide the president?
This year is proof of the the EC working as California would have been the single difference maker in an NPV election. Hillary received 2.5 million more votes nationally, and was +4.5 million over Trump in California alone. That means 49 other states would have voted Trump +2 million, and Cali erased that.
Also, let's go ahead and include New York. Hillary won New York by 2 million votes. Add California, she got two states by 6.5 million votes. So that means 48 other states would have voted for Trump +4 million votes, and two states would have erased that.
Cameron Cox
>they rigged the election by exposing how corrupt we are!
Austin Hughes
Start voting more conservative policies in the mid term elections to kick out beaners and libs
Isaiah Peterson
from what i saw they claim russia used phishing to get podesta's email and that the emails caused the loss thus by ad hominem made the election unfair. i dunno what bizzaro world they live in but in my world ad hominem is a fallacy and phishing isnt even hacking
Landon Campbell
We have a population with the needs of people who live in mountains and people who live in a collosal megacity, a fundamental problem in both of these systems is frst past the post, a government that operates under the assumption that 51 are always correct and the other 49 can be ignored isn't good, a system that makes this cloudier through the elctoral college where a targeted 49 can ignore the 51 is even worse.
Michael Hernandez
He is not pretending to be an american, retard.
Anthony Clark
>and this is democracy, not chess What? This is a republic. The founding fathers specifically structured our elections so that California couldn't sweep the entire thing. Please go back to civics class.
Joshua James
>That's not an argument, and this is democracy, not chess
USA is not a full democracy, its more like a republic. The system worked as it was supposed to, thank god California doesnt control our government.
Jaxson Sanchez
and yet, who won the presidency anyways?
Justin Miller
Every time it happens, the Cali Supreme Court just ignores or denies the will of the people. See: Proposition 8
Isaiah Hernandez
>A state in which supreme power is held by the people >the elctoral college allows the combined will of the people to be ignored Hmmmm.
Logan Phillips
You have 20% of the population of us, we need a lot more representatives then you do. The electoral college ensures that the most demographics needs are being met, not necessarily the most people. People tend to vote how everyone else votes for the most part.
Joshua Turner
The only agency that claimed Russian involvement was Cuck Intelligence Agency, mostly out of desperation since they are likely to get investigated for supporting ISIS and the 'moderate' beheaders in Syria.
Oh and popular vote means jack shit, US os a Repiblic and electoral college exists for a reason.