Communism is the ultimate redpill and I will explain why in the following points
>Racism Communism is the only solution towards ending systemic oppression and racism of blacks, Jews, and other racial minorities
>Wealth Communism generates more wealth than any other system, capitalism only generates a fraction of the wealth (due to closed factories, unemployeed people, and recessions) and the little it does produce goes to the 1%
>Mental health Capitalism creates so much mental health issues. It creates a society of alienation where every human feels so isolated from everyone, everyone is on their own their own career everything. It's not uncommon for men to go homeless while their family are white collared well income workers. This is the result of a capitalist culture, mental health problems
I'm actually recovering from some mental health issues myself (due to capitalism) so if you could refrain from insults that would be great, just address my points.
The only mental illness you seem to have is liking Communism. Communism has never worked, and never will work. It ignores the natural state of mankind.
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Luis Martin
>Capitalism creates so much mental health issues. It creates a society of alienation where every human feels so isolated from everyone, everyone is on their own their own career everything. It's not uncommon for men to go homeless while their family are white collared well income workers. This is the result of a capitalist culture, mental health problems
>believes in communism >lives in imperialistic canada
Fuck you scumbag.
Give you land back to the Native Americans.
Ethan Lewis
Communism works all the time, except for in Western Hollywood McCarthyism era propaganda. The fact that you dislike communism something in your own interest is proof of mental illness.
Cooper Roberts
>Fuck you scumbag. You're a scumbag, a freak
>Give you land back to the Native Americans. I don't own any land moron.
Noah Hill
FUCKING
Jordan Collins
FUCKING
Jayden Jenkins
Funny everyone who is criticizing me for being Canadian, this is proof the fascist-capitalist culture got to you, countries are just fictional lines on the earth. We are all humans on one global country, earth.
Liam Torres
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Asher Jackson
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Juan Ortiz
FUCKING
Noah Kelly
When the means of production are seized, do you think the people that took it away from the "bourgeois" are going to redistribute the wealth they gained back into the workers? No, they will remain in power because the reason most communist revolutions happen in the first place is the poor desire what the rich have and once they obtain it, they keep it. Why do you think so many college students voted for bernie? It's not because they give a shit about "the working class", it's because they want to not have any college debt. The thing is, when communism is achieved, classes aren't eliminated, they're widened because the people that are on top stay that way and the lower class stays that way as well. There can't be a Ben Carson that switches their class out of their intellect, they move instead to a capitalist country where that is possible, like the United States. There's also the philosiphy that "a person should work for themselves and not money" that is unsustainable as there are jobs that are necessary that no one wants to do such as construction or taking out trash. There is no one who wants to do those jobs, so what do these communist countries do? They have people take a lottery for them, which undermines the entire purpose of Marxism as it isn't voluntary. The philosophy is impractical and impossible to achieve for governments, and the attempts to have cost dozens of millions of lives. TL;DR the only free ride I'll give to a commie is a helicopter ride
Brandon Turner
Ywn beat Australia no matter how hard you try
Colton Hall
You spelled reality wrong
Austin Lee
I'm sorry to be that guy but there will be a better form of government than Communism and Capitalism in the future we know nothing about yet.
Angel King
Now this is really high-end bait.
This is now a thread for rare pepe posting and free pepe trade.
Aiden Ortiz
Seizing means of production and control of state are two different things bro. Commies did redistribute land for example, but party retained monopoly on power. Anyway real Marxism is way less retarded and more theoretical and complex than Marxism-Leninism you're using as an example, which is basically "lol i read manifesto lets shoot the rich". Not a Marxist, just saying.
Jason Myers
I love seeing sub humans in sub human condition I want them to live in misery so, no thanks. Here, take a ticket for a free helicopter ride.
Isaac Nelson
>Oppression of Jews >Oppression
Yeah m8, Jews are doing just awful. They have absolutely no political, social, or economic power
Jaxon Murphy
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Angel Scott
Your mental health issues aren't due to capitalism. They are due to you being a weak numale faggot. Man up or kill yourself, you commie fuck.
Sebastian Powell
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Angel Rivera
And as an example, Marx believed workers will rise in developed capitalist states like Germany or UK or USA, not in Russia. Russia barely started with capitalism but Lenin believed party could accelerate that process, basically skip the capitalist period and proceed to building of communism. As a side note, Bolsheviks were seen as too extreme and not a real threat before they violently seized power.
Jace Roberts
>When the means of production are seized, do you think the people that took it away from the "bourgeois" are going to redistribute the wealth they gained back into the workers? No, they will remain in power because the reason most communist revolutions happen in the first place is the poor desire what the rich have and once they obtain it, they keep it Wrong actually. They do give it up because communist revolutions attract the most empathetic and human people possible. Vladimir Lenin was rich but he gave it all up for the working class, same with Trotsky. There is no wonder the quality of life sky-rocketed with communism in Russia, sure there was some corruption of government workers taking too much but as a general rule people enjoyed more fruits of their labour
In fact the quality of life of Russians barely changed from the Rurik founding to 1917, it only changed for the better once communists got in
>There can't be a Ben Carson that switches their class out of their intellect, they move instead to a capitalist country where that is possible, like the United States In Capitalism is you are born rich you stay rich, if you are born poor you stay poor. In Communism anyone can get a job working for the government as their is no personal property or inheritance, everyone starts with the same beginning and it's pure meritocracy
>There's also the philosiphy that "a person should work for themselves and not money" that is unsustainable as there are jobs that are necessary that no one wants to do such as construction or taking out trash. There is no one who wants to do those jobs, so what do these communist countries do? They have people take a lottery for them, which undermines the entire purpose of Marxism as it isn't voluntary. The philosophy is impractical and impossible to achieve for governments, and the attempts to have cost dozens of millions of lives. that's not true at all actually, people will gladly take those jobs because they have civic duty.
Elijah Stewart
simmer well, pupper.
Ayden Harris
>Be a communist >Hate racism and antisemitism >Hate the 1% >tfw it turns out the 1% is 50% Jewish
Gabriel Morris
>Racism >Communism is the only solution towards ending systemic oppression and racism of blacks, Jews, and other racial minorities If we truly are equal, a free market would have those with false prejudice lose shekels by hiring from the white pool - As it would shrink, those that would go outside it would have more talent. Assuming we're equal, which we aren't at therefore playing into a delusion isn't redpilled.
>Wealth >Communism generates more wealth than any other system, capitalism only generates a fraction of the wealth (due to closed factories, unemployeed people, and recessions) and the little it does produce goes to the 1% The 1% is still there. And if it generates so much wealth, why are North Koreans eating grass and Venezuelans eachother?
>Mental health >Capitalism creates so much mental health issues. It creates a society of alienation where every human feels so isolated from everyone, everyone is on their own their own career everything. It's not uncommon for men to go homeless while their family are white collared well income workers. This is the result of a capitalist culture, mental health problems If you had worked a single day in your life you'd know this isn't the case. Quite the opposite. You're obviously a normie newfag.
Jacob Sullivan
>wanting to only attack half the 1% >wanting to attack the poor Jews along with the 1%ers
Brayden Evans
>I love seeing sub humans in sub human condition I want them to live in misery so You are a subhuman psychopath
Yeah sure conspiracy theories totally are real sure
Please tell me you have cancer. Tony fucking Soprano the most hard-core person ever had mental health issues. So don't you criticize me. You man up
Charles Collins
Lenin was a fanatic, kinda similar to Bin Laden. Bin Laden was rich too.
Ryan Morgan
Yes, it's a nice thing to try theoretically, I mean, take Sup Forums, we just share our memes and ideologies with no clear leader, I mean yeah there's the mods but their ideals aren't really formed into the minds of the people on Sup Forums, we all just fuck around and build off each other, it's ironically the perfect communist society, but the thing is that it's not practical at a government standpoint.
Connor Flores
>changed for the better once communists got in But their plan to condition the Russian people to no longer need food failed.
Anti-antisemitism will not be tolerated in my thread.
>If we truly are equal, a free market would have those with false prejudice lose shekels by hiring from the white pool - As it would shrink, those that would go outside it would have more talent. Assuming we're equal, which we aren't at therefore playing into a delusion isn't redpilled. Free markets take the most nasty people in the world, and make them billionaires while it takes all the good people and makes them beg for money on the street. How does that make anyone equal?
>The 1% is still there. And if it generates so much wealth, why are North Koreans eating grass and Venezuelans eachother? Due to ultra-capitalism. Those two countries are proof that fascism (capitalism in finest form) never works.
>If you had worked a single day in your life you'd know this isn't the case. Quite the opposite. You're obviously a normie newfag. I do work dumbass. I work in freezing cold weather and have to work on CHRISTMAS
Joseph Russell
>workers should own the means of production
a fine theory I guess in the early industrial age but nowadays the means of production is between your ears.
at any rate, if you want to own your share of the 'means of production' in a company, then go buy some shares on the stock exchange, they're almost always very affordable.
There, you now own the means of production and have a say in how they/it is utilized. Hooray.
Luis Wood
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Jace Anderson
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David Green
Don't you have some more ruskis to culturally enrich, you damn roach?
Oliver Barnes
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Leo Bailey
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Lincoln Clark
>MFW too smart to be a Capitalist
>leaf >plebbitor >doesnt get meme
Nathan Cruz
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Wyatt Morgan
>I do work dumbass. I work in freezing cold weather and have to work on CHRISTMAS
kek get a better job instead of trying to fuck over everyone elses' job.
Connor Powell
let me guess you're under 30 you don't have a job you've never paid for your own housing you don't have a girlfriend you're an atheist you're fat you're ugly you have a small dick did i miss anything?
on your points >racism systemic racism is the correct policy because white people are superior to other races despite being a minority globally white people are responsible for 90% of inventions and scientific discoveries and have produced the overwhelming majority of the world's wealth
>wealth 99% of all wealth ever generated occurred under capitalism no communist country has ever managed a per capita gdp that would put their average citizen above the poverty line in capitalist america
>mental health you literally have mental issues yourself as a communist if you are mentally ill in a communist country you are quietly killed and forgotten
it's almost as if you are completely unaware of the history of communism in the real world oh let me guess >not real communism so let me get this straight the childish fantasy communism that only exists in books is "real communism" but the factual historic communism that happened in the real world is "not real communism" you sure have a funny definition of "real"
communism is literally the mental masturbation of a self-absorbed manchild who never worked a day in his life the labor theory of value is an absolute fucking joke with no correlation whatsoever to reality marx himself was a member of the parasitic bourgeoisie that he claimed to be against the idea of him of all people speaking for the working class is the pinnacle of irony
the only thing more worthless than your ideas is you
Liam Brooks
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Landon Evans
That never happened
Who knows what he's been through? He looks old maybe his family died in the holocaust?
Besides im sure he doesn't mean all white people
Luke Roberts
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Luis Green
Why would we want any of those stupid ideas?
Ethan Murphy
>Communism generates more wealth than any other system Marx himself said that capitalism is necessary for the creation of the "means of production."
Communism is a cancerous leech on a society and its economy and that is why it has always collapsed every time it has been tried.
Jaxson Parker
>Who knows what he's been through? >Is literally a top Harvard professor openly calling for genocide of whites
Jason Martinez
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Nathaniel Hill
I guess it's not a nice thing to try given the historical experience. I don't recall evil American capitalists starving several million of their own people. Though Brits did something similar I guess, but still.
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Jackson Sanders
>Russian peasants didn't starve due to shit tier central planning Ok. >North Koreans eat grass and Vuvuzela is a shithole thanks to ultra-capitalism Now this is quality bait.
Also: >Communism generates more wealth than any other system Which is why after the fall of communism we had ~9 BANKS pool their money to fund a fucking roundabout.
Connor Johnson
EVERYDAY NORMAL LEAF
Josiah White
HOL UP, is this the fucking 50th communist thread this week. Boy I'm really getting fucking tired of these threads.
Noah Thomas
>a fine theory I guess in the early industrial age but nowadays the means of production is between your ears. No it isn't.
>at any rate, if you want to own your share of the 'means of production' in a company, then go buy some shares on the stock exchange, they're almost always very affordable. This isn't the 1920s anymore, the stock market is rigged for the rich, besides Goldman Sachs has these supercomputers that predict everything on the stock market so if a stock is gonna go up they own it already
>There, you now own the means of production and have a say in how they/it is utilized. Hooray. My dad owns lots of stocks and he has no say on how it's run
Benjamin Lewis
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Robert Martin
>Communism is the only solution towards ending systemic oppression and racism of blacks, Jews, and other racial minorities
Nope individualism entirely destroys the idea of racism, treating people on their own individual merits regardless of whatever race/gender/sexual preference etc they happen to have is far superior to the collectivist idea of breaking people into subgroups. "Racism" is caused by collectivist thinking of which forms the basis of communism..
>Communism generates more wealth than any other system, capitalism only generates a fraction of the wealth (due to closed factories, unemployeed people, and recessions) and the little it does produce goes to the 1%
Completely incorrect. History shows time and again the free market generates far more wealth for it's citizens while communist countries languish in poverty. As for "the 1%" they exist in communism as well, while in capitalism it's private individuals who have got to that position on their own merits, under communism it's purely the state officials who become wealthy and is passed on completely through nepotism.
>Mental health Capitalism creates so much mental health issues. It creates a society of alienation where every human feels so isolated from everyone, everyone is on their own their own career everything. It's not uncommon for men to go homeless while their family are white collared well income workers. This is the result of a capitalist culture, mental health problems
The reason why you do not hear about mental health issues from communist cultures is that if they can not provide for the state they are jailed or executed. It also doesn't surprise me that you are mentally ill and think communism is a good alternative. As you would have to be to ignore the mountains of evidence which shows how flawed it is for macroeconomics.
Ian Morris
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Elijah Evans
leftypol is raiding hard today
Chase Hill
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Thomas Smith
what a waste of digits (you) fucking faggot
Josiah Jenkins
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Ian Martin
>leaf
it gets tiring
Nicholas Foster
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Joseph Ross
oh look another thread that appears probably literally every day and oh look at what country made the thread but in a le quirky orgnal way xDD
Austin Reed
>I do work dumbass. I work in freezing cold weather and have to work on CHRISTMAS Good thing for you then that commies like you hate Christianity. Why are you complaining about working on Christmas?
Sebastian Morales
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Easton Ross
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Ryan Powell
I am not in the 1% so I can't, consequence of capitalism.
>you're under thirty Yes I am a youth
>You don't have a job I have a very hard job I have to work in freezing cold weather on christmas
>you've never paid for your own housing True my parents pay for my apartment
>you don't have a girlfriend Fuck no, financial drain, todays dating culture was created by corporations so the guy has to buy the girl a bunch of stuff for big corporations
>You're an atheist All communists are
>You're fat I've actually been called lanky
>You're ugly I'm hot as fuck
>You have a small dick No
The rest of your comment is too long to fit everything so I will quickly respond
>wealth All capitalist countries generate wealth for only the very rich
>racism Whites invented jack shit, they stole it from Chinese and Muslimic golden age scientists
>you literally have mental issues yourself as a communist Capitalists are mentally ill mate
>if you are mentally ill in a communist country you are quietly killed and forgotten Wrong, your chilidsh disney fantasy is retarded, you're a fucking SLAVE. You're a manchild
Ryan Morales
Stop it or his tiny brain will short-circuit.
Samuel White
>Communists hate Christianity Makes you think doesn't it
Too intelligent, yet your post has junior high level grammar mistakes.
Jackson Hall
>Anti-antisemitism will not be tolerated in my thread. >antianti >two negatives cancel out in logics >so he means that semitism will not be tolerated in his thread. YOU FUCKING NAZI GET THE FUCK OUT OF 4CHIN
Lincoln Scott
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Robert Johnson
>I'm actually recovering from some mental health issues myself (due to capitalism) so if you could refrain from insults that would be great, just address my points.
Retard
Benjamin Rodriguez
>Racism will no longer exist when the minorities are all dead in gulags t. Stalin
Jack Morris
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Zachary Thompson
>Whites invented jack shit, they stole it from Chinese and Muslimic golden age scientists Even for Canada, this is just ridiculous.
Jayden Jenkins
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Xavier Rivera
Fake quote
Because we want a good society for all
Why has no capitalist society existed more than 10 years without collapsing? Why have every communist society made every citizen richer than the richest in todays society?
Probably fake
Millions starve in Africa because capitalism
>Which is why after the fall of communism we had ~9 BANKS pool their money to fund a fucking roundabout. yeeeah you TOTALLY aren't trolling
Ian Brooks
Stop provoking them! You know what happens when roaches get angry enough to rise up!?!
William Lopez
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Juan Sanchez
Because people are waking up
That picture sums of capitalism, third worlders work so rich white greedy stockholders in America can get rich and rub their hands
Cameron Martin
>you're a fucking SLAVE If you don't like your work, just leave and find another one. Today it's quite easy and work regulations improved the working conditions a lot. There's really no place for left-wing extremism in West today. That's why it's mostly gone.
Evan Bennett
This. /thread.
Nicholas White
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Leo Thompson
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Colton Watson
Millions starved in Africa under various communist parties too. Maybe it's not because of the system? Maybe African societies are just shit?
Benjamin Harris
what does this picture sum up?
Jayden Morales
why are canadians so keen on shitposting? can they not think of something others would like to read?
Jayden Harris
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Blake Hernandez
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Brayden Martinez
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Levi Lewis
saved, thanks Janusz
Blake Ramirez
It's the facts you imbecile. But sure, do teach me about my country's fucking history and how fucking great we had it under communism. After all the plague of obesity was contained, since you can't get fat on vodka and vinegar.
Charles Scott
>Nope individualism entirely destroys the idea of racism, treating people on their own individual merits regardless of whatever race/gender/sexual preference etc they happen to have is far superior to the collectivist idea of breaking people into subgroups. "Racism" is caused by collectivist thinking of which forms the basis of communism.. Sorry did Ayn Rand rise from the dead and go to Australia to shitpost? JK of course. But you're very wrong. Globalist collectivist culture sees all humans as one people so we are all together and want to help each other. Individualism starves people of an identity which human nature demands we have so we start grouping ourselves on superficial grounds such as race and religion.
>Completely incorrect. History shows time and again the free market generates far more wealth for it's citizens while communist countries languish in poverty Wrong. Under capitalism 99% of the people are starving, they are poor begging for money. While the rich live in luxery. In communism there is still a 1% that you call it but in communism they got their on their own merit. They were the smartest people so they got the best government positions.
>The reason why you do not hear about mental health issues from communist cultures is that if they can not provide for the state they are jailed or executed What do you mean? Mentally ill people provide for the state all the time? My dad suffers from mental health issues and he spent 30 years working. I have mental health issues and work all the time even on Christmas in freezing cold weather.