Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio Juan Perón
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
>CAPITALISM VS CORPORATISM >CAPITALISM "Capitalism is . . . a method of industrial production. To employ the most comprehensive definition: Capitalism is a method of mass production for mass consumption, financed en masse by the emission of private, national and international capital. Capitalism is therefore industrial and has not had in the field of agriculture any manifestation of great bearing.
I would mark in the history of capitalism three periods: the dynamic period, the static period and the period of decline. The dynamic period was that from 1830 to 1870. It coincided with the introduction of weaving by machinery and with the appearance of the locomotive. Manufacturing, the typical manifestation of industrial capitalism, expanded. This was the epoch of great expansion and hence of the law of free competition ; the struggle of all against all had full play. In this period there were crises, but they were cyclical crises, neither long nor universal. Capitalism still had such vitality and such power of recovery that it could brilliantly pravail.
There were also wars. They cannot be compared with the World War. They were brief. Even the War of 1870, with its tragic days at Sedan, took no more than a couple of seasons.
Chase Wright
>CAPITALISM CONT the theorists of liberalism could say: "You, the State, have a single duty. It is to see to it that your administration does not in the least turn toward the economic sector. The better you govern the less you will occupy yourself with the problems of the economic realm." We find, therefore, that economy in all its forms was limited only by the penal and commercial codes. But after 1870, this epoch underwent a change. There was no longer the struggle for life, free competition, the selection of the strongest. There became manifest the first symptoms of the fatigue and the devolution of the capitalistic method. There began to be agreements, syndicates, corporations, trusts. One may say that there was not a sector of economic life in the countries of Europe and America where these forces which characterize capitalism did not appear.
What was the result? The end of free competition. Restricted as to its borders, capitalistic enterprise found that, rather than fight, it was better to concede, to ally, to unite by dividing the markets and sharing the profits. The very law of demand and supply was now no longer a dogma, because through the combines and the trusts it was possible to control demand and supply.
Nathan Nelson
>CORPORATISM "If today I am better off practically, I owe it to the institutions which the Fascist revolution has created."
We want the Italian workers, those who are interested in their status as Italians, as workers, as Fascists, to feel that we have not created institutions solely to give form to our doctrinal schemes, but in order, at a certain moment, to give positive, concrete, practical and tangible results.
Our State is not an absolute State. Still less is it an absolutory State,remote from men and armed only with inflexible laws, as laws ought to be. Our State is one organic, human State which wishes to adhere to the realities of life. . .
Today we bury economic liberalism. The corporation plays on the economic terrain just as the Grand Council and the militia play on the political terrain. Corporationism is disciplined economy, and from that comes control, because one cannot imagine a discipline without a director.
Corporationism is above socialism and above liberalism. A new synthesis is created. It is a symptomatic fact that the decadence of capitalism coincides with the decadence of socialism. All the Socialist parties of Europe are in fragments.
Aiden Young
>CORPORATISM CONT We have rejected the theory of the economic man, the Liberal theory, and we are, at the same time, emancipated from what we have heard said about work being a business. The economic man does not exist; the integral man, who is political, who is economic, who is religious, who is holy, who is combative, does exist
Let us ask a final question: Can corporationism be applied to other countries? We are obliged to ask this question because it will be asked in all countries where people are studying and trying to understand us. There is no doubt that, given the general crisis of capitalism, corporative solutions can be applied anywhere. But in order to make corporationism full and complete, integral, revolutionary, certain conditions are required.
Adrian Parker
>WHAT ARE THESE CERTAIN CONDITIONS? There must be a single party through which, aside from economic discipline, enters into action also political discipline, which shall serve as a chain to bind the opposing factions together, and a common faith.
But this is not enough. There must be the supremacy of the State, so that the State may absorb, transform and embody all the energy, all the interests, all the hopes of a people.
Still, not enough. The third and last and the most important condition is that there must be lived a period of the highest ideal tension.
We are now living in this period of high, ideal tension. It is because step by step we give force and consistency to all our acts; we translate in part all our doctrine. How can we deny that this, our Fascista, is a period of exalted, ideal tension?
No one can deny it. This is the time in which arms are crowned with victory. Institutions are remade, the land is redeemed, cities are founded.
Charles Rodriguez
>CORPORATISM EXPLAINED Corporatism was invented for fascism by National Syndicalists. Corporatism is the main economic system a facist society will use. The goal of corporatism is to bring every major interest group or "corporate group" into working towards a common goal for the state. This allows for the state to easily regulate every corporate group and decide what is "good" and what is "harmful" for the state, anything deemed harmful will be banned by the state.
Isaiah Price
I was thinking about how we could get more active and if people are willing this would work The ((((((SPLC)))))) has a "hate map" that shows the locations of all meeting places for various Sup Forums related groups splcenter.org/hate-map If anons from Sup Forums are willing to organize and teach these cucked white nationalist groups real nationalism, it would benefit us greatly. for example hill billies and other almost degenerates are almost always ungroomed, out of shape etc if we could teach them the ways of self preservation and the about the jq influence these people would be more than willing to go public for us. We would never show our faces
Our politics have allot of momentum right now, if we can organize the separated white nationalist groups of America we could have a force to be reckoned with
Our main mission would be to teach red necks and neo nazis actual Natsoc ideas and culture instead of the jewified shit they believe in now
All this wouldn't be possible without the map tho, it tells us exactly where to go and what to say.
Just a thought.
Andrew Thompson
Where do I find a fascist husband?
Asher Price
h-here
Leo Jenkins
Holy shit there's a "general hate" group right here in my small town in California. Wouldn't some of these be at risk of being a honeypot though?
Dylan Nguyen
yeah, I forgot to mention that anons should use fake names if they want to do this also it's not like this is illegal, so as long as you use fake names you will be ok
John Hall
Thats hard, as most most likely wouldn't publicly display they are a fascist irl. Your best bet is to look for a well mannered, in shape, maybe if you can pick it up off him, him being nationalistic or at least having a right wing mindset. Then maybe at most you could hope once you get to further know him he'd reveal how he really thinks.
Dylan Jackson
I'm very tempted to look into the one here, I have never heard of any activity from them here though.
Ryan Baker
bump thanks op
Hunter Brooks
University STEM / political groups.
Matthew Sanders
Careful where you look in political groups though
Cooper Harris
I thought that was a harder one in hindsight. In addition to offset that choice I'd say ecology / agriculture groups / study because nature is a fascist. Outside of university I'm not certain. Start with conservative groups.
Benjamin Morales
Conservative type groups would definitely be a start, although maybe because its just throughout my school experiences, the ag type groups and stuff have jusy mainly been filled with your average Republican or conservative.
Colton Rodriguez
I know TDS has "book clubs" that organize in real life. Worth a shot.
