New government's budget, to be aproved in one and a half months, will include so called 'Renda Garantida de Ciutadania' i.e. guaranteed citizen income, that pays 420€ monthly.
The only requisite to apply for this is to have not enough resources for self sustainance. Obviously I being unemployed could apply for it. I would have to leave home, find a cheap flat, and that's it.
But the free shit doesn't end here. In Spain it is ilegal for utility companties to cut off services if you are in 'poverty', so I wouldn't have to pay for utilities.
As for food, there are plenty of gibsmedat organization that hand out food for free.
Overall, in two months time, I wouldn't need to pay for anything.
Any other spaniards planing to do so? Flaws in my plan? Tips?
NEETs of the world, how much NEETbux do you get? What were the requisites? Did you have to lie to get them? Any kind of info is welcome.
ITT: We discuss how awesome it is to be NEET and how awesome is the socialist system.
You fucking disgust me, this sort of commie, socialist shit is why taxes are driven way fucking up just to prop up the meaningless, unproductive and pitiful lives of those without ambition or care, without the bare minimum motivation to do something to keep themselves alive. No, instead they use the resources of the government & contribute nothing to economic growth. Both you fucking lazy cunts & the shitty governmental systems that steal money from citizens to sustain that garbage lifestyle are utterly despicable.
Isaac Martin
Oh fuck all my moor and African neighbours will now stay for ever in this building instead of moving to Germany like they planned to do
Jonathan Garcia
man don't hate the player hate the game i'm just a victim, i'd love to get a job but i don't want to pay 50%+ of my income for this shit, by taking advantadge of the scam and promoting more people to do so, i bring the death of the system closer
Owen Baker
>all the leeches are going to leave to Catalonia neat, I didn't think tha they would clean the country like that.
Hudson Phillips
i'm pretty sure other comunidades have similar plans
Jace Lee
utilities can and will be cut off if not paid, la
going to check this renda shiet, could be interesting as long as they kill all other economical help and the bureaucracy involved, they may end up saving money
though it sounds like the typical catalan law the spanish government bans in a few days, like the 'not cutting utilities for the poor' that was never in effect
>he doesn't remember when we kicked out hundreds of thousands of gypsies to spain during the 80s in preparation for the 92 olympics >spain >clean
Easton Hill
Crashing Spain... with no survivors. The soon we crash the soon the muslims will flee to France HAHAHAHAHA
What will Sup Forums do if this all works out tremendously?
Xavier Perez
Get universal basic income
Higher taxes to pay for basic income
Get more dependent on government to live
Julian Price
Reminder that we are bankrupt
Nathan Ross
Taxes are driven up because you're too chicken shit not to pay them.
The NEET is doing the job of resistance for your lazy ass. But by all means, continue to define your self-worth around intrinsically worthless pieces of Jew paper. Keeps me comfy.
Nathaniel Clark
lol it will not we will be like venezuela in 5 to 10 years
its perfect, what could go wrong???
no we are not we can always borrow more and tax the rich, ise you don't have a PhD in spanish economics unlimited monies you dummy!
Ryder Russell
That's not universal welfare?
I think you are confusing with Basic Income?
Oliver Powell
basic income mean everyone regardless of their income get it this is limited to people who apparently don't have enough for substinence, i made up 'universal welfare' i don't know if there's a word for it
Hudson Howard
>420 monthly You know it's going to be spent on weed.
Brandon Miller
>Flaws in my plan? No job
>Tips? Get a job
Adam Peterson
so if I'm a neet living with the parents do I get the money or not
Thomas Smith
>only requisite to apply for this is to have not enough resources for self sustainance
So it's not universal.
Jordan Evans
how does your government afford it?
Parker Johnson
you will probably have to move out to get it basically if your family unit has enough you can' apply just rent a cheap flat and claim your parents kicked you out and yuo won't be able to pay for rent in few months cause you have no job, profit
poorly worded, please excuse my illiterate rapebaby ass
YES.
the whole point is not to get a job
Isaac Foster
how do you get someone to sign you a rent for a flat if you don't provide any insurance about your incomes ?
Jayden Miller
I wonder if this can be parlayed with autismbux, would be a nice combo
Lincoln Morales
you'd have a 420€ income guaranteed by the state, though not sure how much rent you'd be able to afford considering other living costs
Hunter Cook
that would be tricky, yes when i was studying my parents would sign as guarantors, im not sure if this would invalidate me from the neetbux anyway there are tens of thousaands of spaniard that do not delcare income but live somewhere right? they can't provide proof of income either
how the fuck do you get autismbux? no es incapacidad total asi que no te pagan sino que te dan ventajas en contratacion no?
you need to move out before asking for neetbux maybe you can trick them into thinking you live on the streets
Jayden Edwards
So is this a way to destroy Catalonia and force it to be dependent on Spain as punishment because it wanted to be independent?
Jaxson Turner
>you will probably have to move out to get it >basically if your family unit has enough you can' apply >just rent a cheap flat and claim your parents kicked you out and yuo won't be able to pay for rent in few months cause you have no job, profit universal my ass then
Ayden Baker
all spain will be rekt people everywhere want this kind of shit we're just pioneers
Liam Foster
>Flaws in my plan?
When the money dries up and your country surpasses Greece in debt.
Logan Evans
in that case, Catelonia will take more than it will recieve and there will be no point in keeping it
Luke Lopez
that's not a flaw that's a feature
John Allen
good luck dying friend.
Isaiah Ross
we all die sooner or later but only few of us will make history :^)
Easton James
no is just that the the catalanist parties know that catalonia is at most 40% real catalans so they need more votes. So they became sjw and commies so the poor descendants from the rest of spain would also want the independence. This is what happens when you become a minority in your own nation, You start pandering.
William Mitchell
acting as a warning that commies will continue to ignore is not really decent history.
Jason Powell
In the UK the water companies can't turn off the supply but eventually they'll get the money out of your neetbux (admittedly at a pathetic rate that's probably lower than your usage, so really it's still cheap). Other utilities can be cut easily.
Owen Kelly
So, how does an independent Catalonia sound right now? Pretty good I'd imagine.
Oh, neet questions. >be sperg with highly questionable diagnosis because lol psychology >€900 a month + €86 healthcare subsidy every month >the end
It's fucking disgusting. Getting employed ASAP.
Hudson Peterson
>So, how does an independent Catalonia sound right now? Pretty good I'd imagine. yeah definately if we are independent shit will go down much faster i only fear that the current 20% of muslim youth will only continue to increase and it will be a caliphate
>be sperg with highly questionable diagnosis because lol psychology >€900 a month + €86 healthcare subsidy every month >the end i'm jealous
Kayden White
>how the fuck do you get autismbux? on non emergency cases (no major retardation or super schizophrenia): >be under psych treatment with public health psychiatrist/psychologist for some months >be diagnosed a life long disease/personality disorder >have doctor write a favorable report of your condition, previous trajectory and your (non) evolution during a long term treatment >have doctor/psychologist/social worker apply for evaluation of your condition >meet with social worker and do all paper work >take all documents to av paral.lel >wait 8 months to receive answer and be given date for independent evaluation >if accepted, go to independent evaluation with other psychiatrist/psychologist/social worker >cross your fingers and pray to kek >most first evaluations get automatically rejected, in the meantime other patients die/get cut off and more autismbux spots are available >ask for evaluation review >wait for another x months >cross more fingers and pray more to kek >if you are lucky you are given a percentage high enough to receive autismbux >if not high enough you get access to special jobs for the government, hiring discounts and similar shiet something like this, the amount you receive will depend on your autism percentage and your personal circumstances (where do you live, with who, their income, their age, special needs, etc)
it's very hard to get on autismbux unless you have a really hardcore problem though, used to be much easier 20 years ago
Juan Gonzalez
>Any tips? Ojo con las velas, Marc.
Dominic Morris
Dude, don't do this. During my master I became a scholarship leech (between EU$ 235 and EU$ 360 - 11 years ago this was a good money), without working, and I felt horrible inside.
Jeremiah Williams
they will leave amic they will go to france
Ryder Moore
all the country have that, is the Renta Minima de Insercion u butifarrer, 70% of the minimun wagage, is 4 long unemployed people gypsies moors niggas and people like that
Blake Wilson
fuck that's very hard i'm starting to wonder if the hundreds of hours of waiting in line will be worth it
here's a (you)
i think i'd feel good because i'd be contributing to the colapse of this failed system
a man can dream
Robert James
The flaw is really simple. Everyone worth a shit is going to leave, and thereby braindrain the fuck out of your country. You're going to be left with only NEETs and niggers and your country will collapse like a great big Detroit.
Adam Carter
So can I move there? What do I need to become a catalonian NEET?
Sebastian Miller
>Renta Minima de Insercion with insercion you get signed up for work and you have to go to work if something comes up with this you don't have to
spain is already completely braindrained i just want to see this country go down, only from the ashes can spain come back glorious
Luke Parker
Fucking helperer man
Angel Fisher
doesn't the whole guaranteed income think kind of rely on mass automation of the economy?
...and probably being post scarcity???
Christian Rogers
you probably need to get empadronado not sure what you'd need
do you have any rare helpers?
Jacob Wright
i am happy for you. Being a NET in germany is sometimes pretty hard they never leave you. you need apply for every bullshit jobs and doing dump courses but welfare here is 400€ + free housing and free healthcare but they can cut basicly everything until you are homeless.
Daniel James
It relies on there being literally no other alternative. As long as entrepreneurs can just ditch their sorry socialist countries and go somewhere where their money isn't going to be stolen in mass quantities to pay for leeches to survive, UBI will be unstable.
Leo Ramirez
that is the Renta Minima de Insercion u'll have to be in the INEM and they'll send u to jobs interviews and things like that, the objective of that shit is to help people not to have leechers rendagarantidaciutadana.net/files/ley.pdf fucking pantumaker
Cameron Ramirez
they just change the name
Lucas Nelson
no man, i'm telling you with this new shit you don't need to get registered in INEM, it's just free money, you get a bit less, 420 vs 600
Austin Murphy
>i'm starting to wonder if the hundreds of hours of waiting in line will be worth it if you have a mental disease/personality disorder that is truly incompatible with a normal independent working life then it's no problem since you are already under treatment and supervision. You may have to ask for it though, most doctors will try to avoid the process unless you have really hardcore problems and they have no choice
The biggest problem is the independent evaluation, they are basically goalkeepers rejecting as much cases as they can, even hardcore ones, but it's part of the process
Then you are forced to ask for a review and wait longer because you get automatically rejected the first time
It's all designed to discourage fakes and fraudsters applying for autismbux: too much time wasted, too many interviews, very long and messy
Aaron Hughes
>rendagarantidaciutadana.net/files/ley.pdf 9 e Mantenerse inscrito como demandante de empleo y no rechazar una oferta de trabajo adecuada, que deberá adecuarse a la profesión y a las titulaciones académicas o profesionales del titular de la RGC, y que deberá respectar su dignidad, y siempre que la retribución no se vea disminuida como consecuencia de los gastos de movilidad o de otra naturaleza que se deriven de la aceptación de la oferta de trabajo
Jacob Wright
I agree with the unconditional basic income, but this shit won't solve anything. Catalonia will go even deeper in shit. Spain should cut out that tumor
Nolan Allen
pls no
Colton Perez
is that the most up-to-date draft?
ara dot cat misleaded me otherwise it said:
>les esmenes determinants són les que ha elaborat el grup majoritari del Parlament, Junts pel Sí. Aquest grup pretén desdoblar la Renda Garantida de Ciutadania continguda en la ILP popular en dues rendes: una, la Renda Mínima Garantida, i una altra, anomenada Renda d’Inserció, que completaria la prestació fins a assolir la quantitat fixada a la RGC. La Renda Mínima Garantida seria de 426,84 euros i la Renda d’Inserció hi afegiria 150 euros fins a assolir el total de 576,84 euros.
>La Renda Garantida de Ciutadania estaria dirigida a “les persones que no disposin d’ingressos per fer front a les despeses associades a les necessitats bàsiques” i la Renda d’Inserció estaria “dirigida a complementar el nivell d’ingressos de les unitats de convivència de les persones titulars de la Renda Mínima Garantida i que s’acullen a un procés d’inclusió social o de millora de la situació laboral”. Per aconseguir els 150 euros addicionals a la Renda Mínima, caldria inscriure’s “obligatòriament” en un Pla Individual d’inserció laboral o inclusió social.
Blake Carter
it doesn't, that's the correct and literal anwser, it just loads more deficit and debt to future generations, cuz, you know
our constitution says we have rights to a dignified/decent housing
Benjamin Hughes
accept reality.. spain is not gonna turn back and euro is gonna fall, enjoy the ride
Lucas Jackson
>get extra 150€ if you apply for jobs >nah, thanks, you can keep those 150€ it's going to happen
Noah Torres
OP are you objectivist and neet?
Nolan Scott
thats exactly what i want to do
yes, what's the point of working if it helps the system? obviously one could do unreported work while receiving welfare
Liam Baker
>Renda Mínima Garantida well as far as I can read the big is 4 the inem, is how they control that u don't have income, and the otherone is 4 some course that they give u to find jobs. is what they call Pla Individual d’inserció laboral
James Johnson
You'll destroy yourself before destroy the system [socialistball "get a loan for pay for a loan for get a loan for pay for a loan.jpg]
Jose Bailey
you're trolling so much, but I'm actually neet myself, I tought I was the only lazy anacap ever
Lucas White
I'm with you guys
Nolan Walker
1800$/mnth 350$/quarter for health
Cooper Rodriguez
ahi os separeis y que no podáis pagar una mierda por lo que os tengáis que vender vuestros culos a los moros, hijoputas.
Joseph Wood
isn't it pathetic I come from really commie background and really useless libtard career
still borderline useless, but financialy literate it feels weird man
William King
eh, vuelve al trabajo manolo, que nos has de pagar las paguitas
Carson White
t. lazy andaluz
Nathan Turner
but what about the campetxano and the preparao, they won't allow it
Kayden Powell
I was born here I just don't feel like contributing to society fuck it
Owen Flores
nahh lad the average spaniard wagage is 1700-1800 before taxes, after that the charge 500 to police, army, healthcare, unemployment insurance, politicians, pensions etc. After that they charge in the purchases 4, 10 or 21%, and finally we got more taxes 4 other things tobacco oil etc
Camden King
I meant I've been a commie-liberal all my life up to recently tfw you believe in work ethic while you don't have nor practice it
Jace James
with that taxes we got: public full healthcare, with minimun payments 4 some things all can afford, universities that r arround 1'5-2 k per year, a basic retirement pension, and an insurance of 6 months per year if u r fired with a maximun 2 years of payed unemployment
Luis Parker
well I've been catalanist, all my family is, now that the catalanist parties are muslim lovers I give up, I'm not gonna help the cause
Adam Reyes
>all can afford >2k/year degrees I want to believe
>>> average idiot pays 9k tax/year
average idiot could course 4-5 degrees at the same time
John Parker
just buy gold before we crash the euro and before mudslimes start buying gold due to isis
Anthony Sanders
this nation was born fighting muslims, maybe that's what we need.
Colton Thompson
if u repeat they charge u more but the degree in Spain doesn't cost that much, my brother is in 4th Economics and is 1612 euros/year
Aaron Barnes
I'm moving to Catalonia then.
Cooper Nguyen
great, more murcians
Cameron James
Northern Castilian.
Jeremiah Young
b-but economics degree is a keynessian certified.. it's like a degree on hompeophaty
Elijah Bailey
We all know, he also know is just an accountant course with Keynes all over
Colton Scott
you are ok then what degree should a 25 neet do other than suicide studies?
Ethan Moore
oh vey turns out la pela is la pela also for spaniards
Ethan Bennett
Spain should just allow Catalonia to secede. They can rid themselves of that degenerate, libtardic land.
Christopher Gutierrez
magisterio
Isaiah Foster
no way, I'm a pedo I shouldn't get near kids
Brandon Brooks
if we were independent we would get rid of the commies and muslims fast, we suport them just to weaken spain then they suport them too to weaken us we are both fucked at the end
Nathaniel Watson
catalonia is already nigger haven
Adam Edwards
>40% real catalans >OI VELL AIXÒ ÉS UN ALTRE 1714 HEM DE FER ALGUNA COSA >free gibs >attract all the romanians, arabs and niggers in the country to Catalonia > 20% real catalans >COLLOOOOOONS