Universal Welfare coming to Catalonia

New government's budget, to be aproved in one and a half months, will include so called 'Renda Garantida de Ciutadania' i.e. guaranteed citizen income, that pays 420€ monthly.

The only requisite to apply for this is to have not enough resources for self sustainance. Obviously I being unemployed could apply for it. I would have to leave home, find a cheap flat, and that's it.

But the free shit doesn't end here. In Spain it is ilegal for utility companties to cut off services if you are in 'poverty', so I wouldn't have to pay for utilities.

As for food, there are plenty of gibsmedat organization that hand out food for free.

Overall, in two months time, I wouldn't need to pay for anything.

Any other spaniards planing to do so? Flaws in my plan? Tips?

NEETs of the world, how much NEETbux do you get? What were the requisites? Did you have to lie to get them? Any kind of info is welcome.

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prepare for a huge influx of niggers

but they're already here

You fucking disgust me, this sort of commie, socialist shit is why taxes are driven way fucking up just to prop up the meaningless, unproductive and pitiful lives of those without ambition or care, without the bare minimum motivation to do something to keep themselves alive. No, instead they use the resources of the government & contribute nothing to economic growth. Both you fucking lazy cunts & the shitty governmental systems that steal money from citizens to sustain that garbage lifestyle are utterly despicable.

Oh fuck all my moor and African neighbours will now stay for ever in this building instead of moving to Germany like they planned to do

man don't hate the player hate the game
i'm just a victim, i'd love to get a job but i don't want to pay 50%+ of my income for this shit, by taking advantadge of the scam and promoting more people to do so, i bring the death of the system closer

>all the leeches are going to leave to Catalonia
neat, I didn't think tha they would clean the country like that.

i'm pretty sure other comunidades have similar plans

utilities can and will be cut off if not paid, la

going to check this renda shiet, could be interesting as long as they kill all other economical help and the bureaucracy involved, they may end up saving money

though it sounds like the typical catalan law the spanish government bans in a few days, like the 'not cutting utilities for the poor' that was never in effect

>he doesn't remember when we kicked out hundreds of thousands of gypsies to spain during the 80s in preparation for the 92 olympics
>spain
>clean

Crashing Spain... with no survivors.
The soon we crash the soon the muslims will flee to France HAHAHAHAHA

for you

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aparently still not approved the statewide law
still in catalonia you can get paid the utilites by the ayuntamiento, you just have to threaten them that you will use candles and burn your shit up and they will simply pay up

What will Sup Forums do if this all works out tremendously?

Get universal basic income

Higher taxes to pay for basic income

Get more dependent on government to live

Reminder that we are bankrupt

Taxes are driven up because you're too chicken shit not to pay them.

The NEET is doing the job of resistance for your lazy ass. But by all means, continue to define your self-worth around intrinsically worthless pieces of Jew paper. Keeps me comfy.

lol it will not
we will be like venezuela in 5 to 10 years

its perfect, what could go wrong???

no we are not
we can always borrow more and tax the rich, ise you don't have a PhD in spanish economics
unlimited monies you dummy!

That's not universal welfare?

I think you are confusing with Basic Income?

basic income mean everyone regardless of their income get it
this is limited to people who apparently don't have enough for substinence, i made up 'universal welfare' i don't know if there's a word for it

>420 monthly
You know it's going to be spent on weed.

>Flaws in my plan?
No job

>Tips?
Get a job

so if I'm a neet living with the parents do I get the money or not

>only requisite to apply for this is to have not enough resources for self sustainance


So it's not universal.

how does your government afford it?

you will probably have to move out to get it
basically if your family unit has enough you can' apply
just rent a cheap flat and claim your parents kicked you out and yuo won't be able to pay for rent in few months cause you have no job, profit

poorly worded, please excuse my illiterate rapebaby ass

YES.

the whole point is not to get a job

how do you get someone to sign you a rent for a flat if you don't provide any insurance about your incomes ?

I wonder if this can be parlayed with autismbux, would be a nice combo

you'd have a 420€ income guaranteed by the state, though not sure how much rent you'd be able to afford considering other living costs

that would be tricky, yes
when i was studying my parents would sign as guarantors, im not sure if this would invalidate me from the neetbux
anyway there are tens of thousaands of spaniard that do not delcare income but live somewhere right? they can't provide proof of income either

how the fuck do you get autismbux? no es incapacidad total asi que no te pagan sino que te dan ventajas en contratacion no?

you need to move out before asking for neetbux
maybe you can trick them into thinking you live on the streets

So is this a way to destroy Catalonia and force it to be dependent on Spain as punishment because it wanted to be independent?

>you will probably have to move out to get it
>basically if your family unit has enough you can' apply
>just rent a cheap flat and claim your parents kicked you out and yuo won't be able to pay for rent in few months cause you have no job, profit
universal my ass then

all spain will be rekt
people everywhere want this kind of shit
we're just pioneers

>Flaws in my plan?

When the money dries up and your country surpasses Greece in debt.

in that case, Catelonia will take more than it will recieve and there will be no point in keeping it

that's not a flaw that's a feature

good luck dying friend.

we all die sooner or later
but only few of us will make history :^)

no is just that the the catalanist parties know that catalonia is at most 40% real catalans so they need more votes.
So they became sjw and commies so the poor descendants from the rest of spain would also want the independence.
This is what happens when you become a minority in your own nation,
You start pandering.

acting as a warning that commies will continue to ignore is not really decent history.

In the UK the water companies can't turn off the supply but eventually they'll get the money out of your neetbux (admittedly at a pathetic rate that's probably lower than your usage, so really it's still cheap). Other utilities can be cut easily.

So, how does an independent Catalonia sound right now? Pretty good I'd imagine.

Oh, neet questions.
>be sperg with highly questionable diagnosis because lol psychology
>€900 a month + €86 healthcare subsidy every month
>the end

It's fucking disgusting. Getting employed ASAP.

>So, how does an independent Catalonia sound right now? Pretty good I'd imagine.
yeah definately if we are independent shit will go down much faster
i only fear that the current 20% of muslim youth will only continue to increase and it will be a caliphate

>be sperg with highly questionable diagnosis because lol psychology
>€900 a month + €86 healthcare subsidy every month
>the end
i'm jealous

>how the fuck do you get autismbux?
on non emergency cases (no major retardation or super schizophrenia):
>be under psych treatment with public health psychiatrist/psychologist for some months
>be diagnosed a life long disease/personality disorder
>have doctor write a favorable report of your condition, previous trajectory and your (non) evolution during a long term treatment
>have doctor/psychologist/social worker apply for evaluation of your condition
>meet with social worker and do all paper work
>take all documents to av paral.lel
>wait 8 months to receive answer and be given date for independent evaluation
>if accepted, go to independent evaluation with other psychiatrist/psychologist/social worker
>cross your fingers and pray to kek
>most first evaluations get automatically rejected, in the meantime other patients die/get cut off and more autismbux spots are available
>ask for evaluation review
>wait for another x months
>cross more fingers and pray more to kek
>if you are lucky you are given a percentage high enough to receive autismbux
>if not high enough you get access to special jobs for the government, hiring discounts and similar shiet
something like this, the amount you receive will depend on your autism percentage and your personal circumstances (where do you live, with who, their income, their age, special needs, etc)

it's very hard to get on autismbux unless you have a really hardcore problem though, used to be much easier 20 years ago

>Any tips?
Ojo con las velas, Marc.

Dude, don't do this. During my master I became a scholarship leech (between EU$ 235 and EU$ 360 - 11 years ago this was a good money), without working, and I felt horrible inside.

they will leave amic
they will go to france

all the country have that, is the Renta Minima de Insercion u butifarrer, 70% of the minimun wagage, is 4 long unemployed people gypsies moors niggas and people like that

fuck that's very hard
i'm starting to wonder if the hundreds of hours of waiting in line will be worth it

here's a (you)

i think i'd feel good because i'd be contributing to the colapse of this failed system

a man can dream

The flaw is really simple. Everyone worth a shit is going to leave, and thereby braindrain the fuck out of your country. You're going to be left with only NEETs and niggers and your country will collapse like a great big Detroit.

So can I move there? What do I need to become a catalonian NEET?

>Renta Minima de Insercion
with insercion you get signed up for work and you have to go to work if something comes up
with this you don't have to

spain is already completely braindrained
i just want to see this country go down, only from the ashes can spain come back glorious

Fucking helperer man

doesn't the whole guaranteed income think kind of rely on mass automation of the economy?

...and probably being post scarcity???

you probably need to get empadronado
not sure what you'd need

do you have any rare helpers?

i am happy for you.
Being a NET in germany is sometimes pretty hard they never leave you. you need apply for every bullshit jobs and doing dump courses but welfare here is 400€ + free housing and free healthcare but they can cut basicly everything until you are homeless.

It relies on there being literally no other alternative. As long as entrepreneurs can just ditch their sorry socialist countries and go somewhere where their money isn't going to be stolen in mass quantities to pay for leeches to survive, UBI will be unstable.

that is the Renta Minima de Insercion u'll have to be in the INEM and they'll send u to jobs interviews and things like that, the objective of that shit is to help people not to have leechers
rendagarantidaciutadana.net/files/ley.pdf
fucking pantumaker

they just change the name

no man, i'm telling you with this new shit you don't need to get registered in INEM, it's just free money, you get a bit less, 420 vs 600

>i'm starting to wonder if the hundreds of hours of waiting in line will be worth it
if you have a mental disease/personality disorder that is truly incompatible with a normal independent working life then it's no problem since you are already under treatment and supervision. You may have to ask for it though, most doctors will try to avoid the process unless you have really hardcore problems and they have no choice

The biggest problem is the independent evaluation, they are basically goalkeepers rejecting as much cases as they can, even hardcore ones, but it's part of the process

Then you are forced to ask for a review and wait longer because you get automatically rejected the first time

It's all designed to discourage fakes and fraudsters applying for autismbux: too much time wasted, too many interviews, very long and messy

>rendagarantidaciutadana.net/files/ley.pdf
9 e
Mantenerse inscrito como demandante de empleo y no rechazar una oferta de trabajo adecuada, que deberá
adecuarse a la profesión y a las titulaciones académicas o profesionales del titular de la RGC, y que deberá respectar
su dignidad, y siempre que la retribución no se vea disminuida como consecuencia de los gastos de movilidad o de
otra naturaleza que se deriven de la aceptación de la oferta de trabajo

I agree with the unconditional basic income, but this shit won't solve anything.
Catalonia will go even deeper in shit. Spain should cut out that tumor

pls no

is that the most up-to-date draft?

ara dot cat misleaded me otherwise
it said:

>les esmenes determinants són les que ha elaborat el grup majoritari del Parlament, Junts pel Sí. Aquest grup pretén desdoblar la Renda Garantida de Ciutadania continguda en la ILP popular en dues rendes: una, la Renda Mínima Garantida, i una altra, anomenada Renda d’Inserció, que completaria la prestació fins a assolir la quantitat fixada a la RGC. La Renda Mínima Garantida seria de 426,84 euros i la Renda d’Inserció hi afegiria 150 euros fins a assolir el total de 576,84 euros.

>La Renda Garantida de Ciutadania estaria dirigida a “les persones que no disposin d’ingressos per fer front a les despeses associades a les necessitats bàsiques” i la Renda d’Inserció estaria “dirigida a complementar el nivell d’ingressos de les unitats de convivència de les persones titulars de la Renda Mínima Garantida i que s’acullen a un procés d’inclusió social o de millora de la situació laboral”. Per aconseguir els 150 euros addicionals a la Renda Mínima, caldria inscriure’s “obligatòriament” en un Pla Individual d’inserció laboral o inclusió social.

it doesn't, that's the correct and literal anwser, it just loads more deficit and debt to future generations, cuz, you know

our constitution says we have rights to a dignified/decent housing

accept reality.. spain is not gonna turn back and euro is gonna fall, enjoy the ride

>get extra 150€ if you apply for jobs
>nah, thanks, you can keep those 150€
it's going to happen

OP are you objectivist and neet?

thats exactly what i want to do

yes, what's the point of working if it helps the system?
obviously one could do unreported work while receiving welfare

>Renda Mínima Garantida
well as far as I can read the big is 4 the inem, is how they control that u don't have income, and the otherone is 4 some course that they give u to find jobs. is what they call Pla Individual d’inserció laboral

You'll destroy yourself before destroy the system
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you're trolling so much, but I'm actually neet myself, I tought I was the only lazy anacap ever

I'm with you guys

1800$/mnth
350$/quarter for health

ahi os separeis y que no podáis pagar una mierda por lo que os tengáis que vender vuestros culos a los moros, hijoputas.

isn't it pathetic
I come from really commie background and really useless libtard career

still borderline useless, but financialy literate
it feels weird man

eh, vuelve al trabajo manolo, que nos has de pagar las paguitas

t. lazy andaluz

but what about the campetxano and the preparao, they won't allow it

I was born here I just don't feel like contributing to society
fuck it

nahh lad the average spaniard wagage is 1700-1800 before taxes, after that the charge 500 to police, army, healthcare, unemployment insurance, politicians, pensions etc. After that they charge in the purchases 4, 10 or 21%, and finally we got more taxes 4 other things tobacco oil etc

I meant I've been a commie-liberal all my life up to recently
tfw you believe in work ethic while you don't have nor practice it

with that taxes we got: public full healthcare, with minimun payments 4 some things all can afford, universities that r arround 1'5-2 k per year, a basic retirement pension, and an insurance of 6 months per year if u r fired with a maximun 2 years of payed unemployment

well I've been catalanist, all my family is, now that the catalanist parties are muslim lovers I give up, I'm not gonna help the cause

>all can afford
>2k/year degrees
I want to believe

>>> average idiot pays 9k tax/year

average idiot could course 4-5 degrees at the same time

just buy gold before we crash the euro and before mudslimes start buying gold due to isis

this nation was born fighting muslims, maybe that's what we need.

if u repeat they charge u more but the degree in Spain doesn't cost that much, my brother is in 4th Economics and is 1612 euros/year

I'm moving to Catalonia then.

great, more murcians

Northern Castilian.

b-but economics degree is a keynessian certified.. it's like a degree on hompeophaty

We all know, he also know is just an accountant course with Keynes all over

you are ok then
what degree should a 25 neet do other than suicide studies?

oh vey turns out la pela is la pela also for spaniards

Spain should just allow Catalonia to secede. They can rid themselves of that degenerate, libtardic land.

magisterio

no way, I'm a pedo I shouldn't get near kids

if we were independent we would get rid of the commies and muslims fast, we suport them just to weaken spain
then they suport them too to weaken us
we are both fucked at the end

catalonia is already nigger haven

>40% real catalans
>OI VELL AIXÒ ÉS UN ALTRE 1714 HEM DE FER ALGUNA COSA
>free gibs
>attract all the romanians, arabs and niggers in the country to Catalonia
> 20% real catalans
>COLLOOOOOONS