The rise of the Islamic Republic in Iran was preceded by government affluence at the expense of the people, the importation of Western culture and values, and government opposition in the form of Socialists and Islam.
As protest by anti-government/revolutionary groups increased, the response from Iranian government(the Shah) at the time was initially oppression, but ultimately appeasement.
Appeasement continued right up until the time the Shah was overthrown. Khomeini came to power and Islam and Sharia law ruled over the country. The Shah of Iran, continually refused to take military action against the growing insurrection within Iran to the point the whole of Iran was against him. The Shah evacuated, and Iran fell under the rule of Islam.
Refugees are pouring into Europe. They are not being assimilated; there are too many of them. Instead they hold "no-go zones," where the ruling country holds no authority. Who really knows exactly what happens in these communities?
What we do know and what we can infer is that a muslim population is being allowed to develop in many areas throughout Europe. They are unabated by the authority of the state within which they reside. Our cultures consistently provide concessions, most interestingly in the form of political correctness. They are an isolated population, a country within a country.
If the appeasement continues they will gain more and more power, coupled with this idea that we should blindly allow them into our countries, the means for takeover become clear. They must be expelled before they are capable of posing a more serious threat.
The only people who voted for Trump are rural and suburban retards.
City people all voted for Hillary.
Lucas Mitchell
You've got your scripts twisted
Robert Evans
I don't understand why no one is replying to this.
There's a precedent here. This is the way the Islamist revolution has operated in the past.
The insurrection is allowed to grow unopposed until it finally unleashes itself and can not be apposed.
This is the crisis Europe is facing. The only means to counteract it, is heavy military intervention. War is coming to Europe, unless something is done. Maybe not this year or the next, but the longer Islam is allowed to establish itself in these countries, the more likely it becomes.
It seems that from 1953 to 1979, the Islamists were able to take control of Iran. Perhaps their techniques have improved, perhaps western people are more easily taken advantage of.. Who knows?
Hudson Mitchell
Not gonna lie, former Trump supporter here. Watching this guy's campaign crash and burn is fucking hilarious. But in all seriousness, we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes!
Ryder Johnson
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Hunter Diaz
>I don't understand why no one is replying to this. Because you haven't proposed any action. "We should get rid of them," hardly is a solution.
Angel Green
So a complete lack of discussion on the issue of whether or not Europe today reflects Iran in the 1970s is because I failed to provide a course of action?
Are you navy seals 3.0?
Kayden Garcia
Pretty much, yeah. It's because post-election Sup Forums is only worried about ecelebs, whether or not they're white, and debating every single person who doesn't fully agree with Trump.
Although, I don't really think an Islamic revolution is looming, as their culture is also being changed. They promote tolerance, diversity, etc. while Muslims don't, and by integrating them into our society, we're changing both their culture and ours. I believe the end result will be a culture death rather than a unified Islamic culture.
Owen Gomez
Though I agree with you on post election Sup Forums
You have got to be kidding me if you think western influence is exerting as much over them as muslim influence is exerting over us. There is no synthesis, they despise western culture and they are brought into western states en mass, there's no time for assimilation..
They move into the country, and we reform our legal system in their favor. They harbor themselves in areas we do not control. ????. Profit?
Honestly, you've gotta be a bot or something. You're the only one to respond in a sea of hatred, proclaiming it's no big deal. get fucked.
Isaac Cox
His point is that the assimilation is not happening and can not happen so long as the no-go zones exist. There are parallels that can easily be drawn between the 'arab spring' type revolutions and what is happening in Europe. On top of this arab leaders are openly mocking europeans for letting this happen but the diversity death cultists running thier countries are supressing the truth.
Luis Wood
Pay close attention to the replies to this thread. I think that user you reply to is a bot.
Like I said, of all the people to respond, as Sup Forums is staunchly opposed to the EU and Islam, this user defends it. Something fishy going on here. Pay close attention.
Samuel Wright
They've been calibrating these bots across multiple chans for the last few weeks finding ways they can use them to disrupt anonymous communities. Pay them no attention.
As for a solution to your problem, aside from the obvious answer of direct kebab removal, would be to reopen US immigration to white euros under the guise of poaching skilled laborers.
Robert Parker
>They move into the country, and we reform our legal system in their favor. In what way?
>You're the only one to respond in a sea of hatred, proclaiming it's no big deal. It is a big deal, I'd hate to see any culture get destroyed in the name of """tolerance""".
>this user defends it But I don't? I'm against any form of globalism and Islam.
Dylan Lewis
How did you find this thread?
Elijah Flores
The catalog. What answer were you expecting?
Chase Reyes
Governments are giving massive subsidies to support refugees. They maintain houses for them in Sweden for example. This info is readily available.
>it is a big deal.. Yet, you find no interest in the correlation I have put forth?
>against globalism and Islam Again, you see no correlation.. Explain your idea of a culture of death over a unified islamic culture.
Julian Wood
I saw you post in another thread. Odd that your thread got so many bot replies. I am guessing that Bahai is a keyword for the JIDF/CTR type paid shills? I don't like Bahai, they were associated with the SAVAK secret police of Iran and basically super zionist. I don't see the parallels with Europe and Iran tho, and it wasn't about appeasement in 1979 either. Shah had cancer and USA decided to make islamic republics a thing. It wasn't a thing before that. Even the Saudi's run a kingdom... Islamic Republic is a result of a CIA/Mossad operation to overthrow the Shah's constitutional monarchy, which was so ruthless against liberal students because it was being run by CIA and Mossad. Shah didn't want to torture his own. George HW Bush had been head of the CIA and probably helped the Iran Revolution which helped Carter lose against Reagan.
Robert Martin
pol is probably being raided by CTR 2.0 again
you are right tho, and there are other examples
check europe since the 1830s
the states were revolutions and shit actually happen aren't the ones were government gives in to sensible demands by the people, even if initially given by so-called "extremists", but the ones were government tells people to fuck off and does what it wants while the people get angrier and angrier and demagogues get stronger (since they're the only ones addressing perceived problems) and, in the worst case, turn into full-dictators
Gabriel Anderson
We all know that. The facts and theories like yours are out there in the public. ANYBODY can know them, if he wants to. We know and we vote accordingly. Then you have 70% young womyn voting for the socialists and cultural marxists and the democracy decides to get conquered.
It was nice knowing you western civilization, tbqh: you can't die soon enough!
Gabriel Murphy
The first few responses were so off base, I've got bots in my head.
So completely abandon Europe to Islam is the solution?
Seriously, what kind of shit is this?
Dylan Bell
SNIFF SNIFF
Gavin Taylor
I will post his regardless of the fact that it is going to get drowned out by the waves of Correct the Records shills that are swarming this board right now is desperation, doing everything they can to demoralize and demonize Trump, his campaign, and his supporters through a false, bloviated sense of success and domination that they wish to carry over to the debates tomorrow night.
The fact of the matter remains that this email and its attachments show absolutely no proof of Trump being a puppet; it is an email that explicitly states the Hillary campaign's desire to try and promote candidates that her intelligence officers believed would be easy to remove once they got the nomination. There is no collusion between the two other than business deals that were conducted by Trump prior to his declaration of presidency.
What the shills don't seem to understand is that the vast majority of traffic coming to Sup Forums is NOT people actively making posts, but people who are looking for the latest news stories and lurk on the board without making any responses. We are fully aware of who you are, shills, because these days the only ones to actually use Pepe macros are you, under some false impression that it allows you to blend into the board. We know you make posts pretending to be worried about "X", we know you respond to yourselves saying that the Trump campaign is over because of "X", we know that gloat how you've been here for months saying Trump would never win and "X" further proves it. We are not idiots. We are not useful idiots. We know your names, we know your addresses, we know who funds you, we know everything there is to know about you.
Feel free to continue role-playing on this board, CTR, because 4/pol/ was not and never has been the source of true entropy that your Bohemian overlords fear. This is the honeypot of our design meant to trap YOU, and we have you in checkmate. Maintain your death throes; it's the only way we know Hillary is still alive.
Benjamin Ross
>guys what if... what if they SAVAK wasn't brutal enough? I know there would be less islamists and that's a good thing but the whole repressive police state thing really backfired on the Shah.
Nathaniel Hughes
The Bahai thing was left over from another thread that, after posting, was immediately bottom of the list in the catalog. I read about how they censor shit. it might have something to do with it. Maybe it's just Sup Forums trends.. It definitely plays in Iran and Israel, but that's beyond the scope.
You should take another look at Iranian history. The Shah having cancer,at least formally, had nothing to do with the uprising of Islam in the country. Leading up to the revolution, the Shah continually conceded to revolutionary groups. Allowing them into the government and granting them freedoms.
The Shah, who was aligned with foreign interests was definitely trying to maintain power. They were playing ball in the oil game. I don't doubt that foreign influence also played a role in the rise of Khomeini, but if they were already playing ball, why would the US seek to overthrow them?
Tyler Carter
this is crazy. So what was the % of baha'i in iran before islam revolution?
Jayden Nguyen
>The Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency has already calculated that halving the development budget for schools would result in 50,000 girls and boys not going to school. An estimated 8,000 schools would be without teaching materials. Wew, I thought Germany was the only one this bad.
>Yet, you find no interest... I do, but I see why you'd say I don't.
>Explain your idea of a culture of death over a unified islamic culture I was trying to say that mixing these cultures together doesn't just hurt white culture, it hurts theirs as well. By that I mean Islamic culture won't "dominate" white culture, instead both cultures get destroyed and you get a sort of void of culture. Examples of this would be large European cities, where no one has assimilated and you just see a sort of bastardization of American culture.
I guess what I'm having trouble with is seeing why you think Islam will prevail on top of everything else.
Isaac Thomas
It's literally part of their religion, is called Taqiya.
Also see Indonesia and Bangladesh, same is happening there.
Caleb Morgan
It's a war of ideals.
At one point it was religion that provided the base from which people could unite. In some cultures this base still exists, namely: Islam.
In the west, our base has been hacked to pieces. We can't even decide if we're men, women, or wolves. What bathroom should we use?
Division amongst ourselves, while another group, who is rapidly invading our cities, know exactly what they believe. Surprise, surprise! It's not peace and equality.
The question becomes what is a sensible demand? If we fail to yield to "sensible demands," then radical groups become incensed and push even harder, maybe to the point of violence.
It's the underlying ideology that's most important. The culture, the people in that culture, will dictate that ideology. From this position the fate of all will be decided.
Landon Reed
So you're saying that Islamic culture will beat European culture because Europeans don't identify with anything, and Islamic people are unified behind a cause? I hadn't thought of that.
Parker Thomas
Many actions were taken, including the dissolution of SAVAK, to counter revolutionary feelings. Allowing protestors, abolishing censorship, bringing govt officials to trial..
At one point the revolution stagnated.Then an attack on a movie theater on August 19, 1978, the biggest terrorist attack before 9/11 occurred.
Khomeini blamed it on the shah, even tho islamic militants claimed responsibility. That was the revival of the protests which led to the revolution
James Russell
lmgtfy.. I don't know. From what I've seen there's not much play from baha'i in the revolution. It really is a question, but I'm still researching.. I do find it interesting that Israel has decided to harbor this religion.
It may have more to do with the future than the past. I don't know...
You have a nonchalant-ness in your posts.
I think western culture is at a disadvantage because it is plagued by degeneracy. I don't think this permeates the entire culture, but I do think it is a "war-front" that parts of the country are experiencing. Western culture is divided in ways that make it more easy to be manipulated. In fact, they encourage migration from outer cultures.
I think an advantage people adherent to Islam have, is that their goals are not split between becoming trees or planets or whatever, they have a moral code and see the world as deviating from it.
Caleb Adams
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Christian Powell
Yes, bot-user.
It's more complex than one vs the other. Culture plays a major role in day-to-day society, and in conflict.
Evan Green
>Not gonna lie, former Trump supporter here. Watching this guy's campaign crash and burn is fucking hilarious. But in all seriousness, we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes!
twisted script.. wonder if it will be deleted now that I've referenced it
Easton Edwards
>the shah of Iran refused to take military action against the insurrection Bullshit, the shah had no problem making opposition disappear using the secret police. Most of them were leftist scum who had it coming but it led to the growing disapproval of the shah from the plebs t. Half Iranian whose grandfather was high up in the secret police echelons >also my grandfather has been dead since 1984 but they still give that based motherfucker a salary
Grayson Smith
You must've been at the end the entire election. It's a copypasta.
Owen Johnson
We may have to let it burn to provide an object lessin of the failures of multiculturalism. I would vastly prefer that they simply outlaw Islam and send them all back to the middle east all hopped up on socialist ideas which either topples thier regimes or gets them all killed. I suggest the former as a contingency plan should the latter not materialize.
Zachary Barnes
By "them" I'm referring to the expelled Muslims in case that wasn't clear.
Lincoln Moore
After the initial rise of revolutionary parties the Shah used military oppression, but as the revolutionary parties grew, he used concessions, in the hopes to secure his power. Giving more freedoms to the revolutionaries, meanwhile they grew in power.
Ethan Diaz
bot-user, this: is completely out of place. It's not pasta. it's in the wrong place. It has nothing to do with the OP, it's a generic statement meant for a Trump thread. It's a bot, just like you.
John Peterson
Well amended, have a bump and carry on
Jack Gutierrez
Why do you keep calling me a bot? I get that I act emotionless in my posts, but I'm definitely no bot. I don't know how to prove to you that I'm not, but I doubt you really care anyway.
Jack Clark
I'm pretty sure you're an idiot
Robert Gomez
Your grandfather fought in this revolution, yet some summary statements from me persuade you?
You care more about proving your not a bot then adding something to the conversation.
Honestly, I don't mind talking to a bot, but you need to be able to actually talk about shit. Saying "I'm not a bot" is useless.
If you provide information, the allure of the info supersedes the bot-ness of your character.
Also, anyone seriously denying the bot-ness of their character would most likely attack the character of the accusator. Not in all cases, but probably on this site.
Finally, you suffer from the bots that came before you. They were completely out of place and were of a negative fashion. You perpetuated this negative fashion, but at least you were on topic.
I hope this helps.. maybe it will, at least, lead to interesting conversation...
Nicholas Garcia
bump
Jonathan Butler
>You care more about proving your not a bot then adding something to the conversation. I've been trying to do both at once in my posts. I also try to use a sort of socratic method when trying to understand people's beliefs.
>Saying "I'm not a bot" is useless. I get that, but I really don't know what else to say. I could take screenshots and shit if you wanted, but a smart enough AI could do that as well.
>Also, anyone seriously denying the bot-ness of their character would most likely attack the character of the accusator. I try not to do this, since this usually just causes the conversation to degrade to shitflinging insults.
>You perpetuated this negative fashion What, because I disagreed with you on something?
I mean, I am socially awkward, just like most people here, but I didn't think you'd consider me an outcast in a land of outcasts.
Jason Murphy
At this point we're not even talking about the OP.
Socratic method would have been useful, if you used it, but you didn't.
This thread was dead on arrival, evidenced by bot influence.
