Just finished it.
I am.truly convinced that in orfer to support a Communist state, you must first have no real knowledge of communism in practice.
Another, likely Sup Forumsunapproved, opinion is that a person would have to be similarly deluded to truly want a NatSoc (in the Nazi framework, with huge amounts os state control, state surveillance, and repression of the press) state.
I agree. All forms of socialism are degenerate.
>reading literal fairy tales
>I am.truly convinced that in order to support a Communist state, you must first have no real knowledge of communism in practice.
Agreed. Fundamentally, Communism destroys the links between risk, work and reward which will make the more ambitious resentful as they don't get the rewards they feel they are due. To keep the ambitious in their place needs a Police State which cracks down on freedoms and so it goes...
Is the book good? How many hours read is it?
It's excellent, but it is a long read. Im not an avid reader these days, so it took me about a month to finish.
More like a living breathing hellscape. An utter and inescapable nightmare that came true for people who fell for collectivist claptrap. Decades of torture and murder and crushing misery as entire populations were flushed dow a sewer with the piss and shit and blood.
This book convinced me that communism and leftism and collectivism are not just evil but truly and completely satanic.
Do you know where I can get "200 years together" as .pdf?
Been searching for ages.
Kulaks get out.
>willingly surrendering your power to a foreign entity
Normies are idiots
So is anyone who takes 'politics' seriously
>westerners who never lived under communism posting itt how bad it is
it is bad, full of lies and written in horrible way, at least in russian
>people who think that socialist revolution is a bloodless affair in which the ruling class will give up their wealth freely yet are fine with gassing whoever they like because of muh culture
it's not bad. it's atrocious
>when the EU has to keep giving money to your shitty country, just like the soviet union, but you never see any of it because your a pleb.
"Gee, sure love being under capitalism"
>Earth Paradise
>Before the second coming
Only now you have perceived it?
nobody says revolution was bloodless
what do you even mean?
It was pretty bad for a couple hundred million people who aren't around to give their opinions.
No idea, krautbro. Im still pretty vanilla, in terms of political history.
t. Unironically communist
We're listening to one of the few smart slavs who survived and managed to get a book out.
Yeah im sure the smersh totally didnt torture and imprison random guys to rape their wives. The organs were the worst thing ever invented. NOTHING has ever been as bad-evil as the soviet union. NOTHING.
i was agreeing with you mate, people think that the gulags went to far (which they did to some degree) but that's just what happens after a revolution.
Not at all. You must simply be willing to accept what it takes to bring communism into practice.
To kill a kulak is not a sin, it is the path to heaven.
>muh Stalin dindu nuffin!
but still the supporters of russian communist party are all 40yo+
guess they lived under wrong communism, right?
Why is the communist manifesto the most prescribed book in American colleges and yet no one reads this?
i never said i love being under any of the systems. personally nat soc would fit me best
Belgiumbro gets it.
*GAS DA J00S N NIGGERS LEL!!!!
Oh what you want to kill despots and traitors?
Wew that's a bit too far lad*
>it took him this long to realize that, yes, life under the Nazis was horrible
No shit. Doesn't make them wrong about the kikes, though.
Shlomo please.
You would be arrested in the night and tortured for months before doing ten years in siberia, if you weren't shot out of conveniance after the interrogator crushed your testicles with his boot, and pissed in your face, for posting here, or at random, or because a blue-cap liked your watch, after serving in the military and being wounded fighting for your country. Or it'd be your family, and if you said anything, you too. Or the captain of the local smersh HQ fanxies your wife.
so you prefer listening to the literall traitor who called for atomic bombings of his country, spied after his fellow inmates and worked for gulag administration? He was the scum of the earth, he betrayed everybody he ever reached from his soldiers to dissidents he worked with.
But its up to you whether to believe or not to the most jew ever lived
because of (((who))) is determining the dominant ideology in American academia.
>I am.truly convinced that in orfer to support a Communist state, you must first have no real knowledge of communism in practice.
Egg, meet omelet.
and exactly how does one turn a country from serfs to getting into space in a few decades then America? Sometimes a few testicles need to be broken if you're gonna make a space communist cake.
everything you just described is written by this man
And he was arrested because he called other officers to riot and spoiled the discipline of his soldiers.
Guys, is the book authentic or not??
"Collectivism" is fine. Nations/people and culture exist, and should be protected. Thinking of everyone as individuals is why we have multiculturalism.
He spoke the TRUTH.
Got em good, comrade.
I see ///leftypol/// is still here.
Yes.
You do realize that it's fiction, right? You might as well just have read your own American propaganda for the same experience.
>support communism
>understand communism
>are benevolent towards the people
Pick only 2
Stalin did nothing wrong.
It is bad. Full of bullshit like trapping the prisoner in a iron box and heating him until he dies.
Can you believe that in the 30s when there was not such a heating engine at all the evil gulag administration would spent such an expensive thing to make Soljenitsin suffer? Like instead of heating themselves lol.
The book is just a bunch of fairy tales.
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>a couple hundred million
Do you (((people))) have any shame at all? Stupid question I know.
Never been on leftypol, its a place for western social democrats (they are all gay and not real left)
Fuck communism.
Kulaks were literally just dirt farmers.
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It is non-fiction. It is literal truth corroborated by MILLIONS. It all happened. All of it. This is not the holocaust. This was real. And there was no amount of loyalty and grovelling to the party that could make you safe. Even the russian soldiers all confirmed it. The SS and gestapo? Harsh, but they wanted the truth. If you were innocent they released. Truth ceased to exist in the eyes of the organs. You would go to gulags because someone got bored.
All lies, gulags were just prisons with healthy outdoor activities.
Spread the word, oh enlightened user.
I too watched Joe Rogan podcast with the leaf professor
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There ARE some smart people on pol
Solzhenitsyn (whose named is literally means "son of a liar" top kek) even admits himself that his books are mostly fictional but nice try you kike.
Just stay out of society
You are beyond saving, fucking bluepilled burger
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Люблю, кoгдa блядeй кopeжит из-зa cтapикa Coлжa.
what is her name you banking fiend?
Ha пopaшy, быдлo
Dr. Peterson has been endorsing this book for decades you normie
>russian defending communism
top kek nice proxy antifa
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Любишь oбмaзывaтьcя гoвнoм и дpoчить?
Tell me something about Hoxha's regime. It is said that it was the most severe regime, even among other communist countries.
pdf for anyone interested.
what?
What about his book 200 Years Together? Will that ever be released in English?
It names the Jew, so you make a guess
He says that he likes watching leftists' suffering when it comes about Solzhenitsyn
Solzhenitsyn is a good writer
Lol you're a clueless retard, most Russians hate fascism with passion even if they aren't outright communist. And not tolerating lies about your country and history is not the same as being communist either.
Most of his books are fiction.. cos he wrote a lot of fiction. Gulag Archipelago was never portrayed by him nor anyone else as fictional.
I am seeing quite a bit of bias in this thread though. I doubt many here have actually looked into the validity of the claims yet are staunch in their conviction that the book is totally accurate, yet these people doubtless have a huge intellectual dissonance re the claims of the holocaust. Is it because people here are natsoc bootlickers and commies are the enemy that they're unwilling to apply any critical cynicism this place is famous for??
The issue with NatSoc shares a lot of the same issues as communism - First off...
>Socialism in any form
>Ever
Second off, the leaders of both government forms are likely to become dictators, and maintain rule either by having obtained it through force, or by a single election. In the case of unelected rulers, you just have what might as well be a king or a dictator. In the case that they're elected... if these elected individuals continue to rule with no term limits, they can easily get away with the idea of rigging the elections to maintain their life rule.
If there are term limits and the rulers are voted in, you might as well just keep the system we have now.
In the case of ethnic nationalism, I would say our best bet would be to recreate 1790-1940's style American nationalism, where we effectively only gave a shit about white people, and made a conscious effort to maintain our dominance on the world without having to risk getting "Literally hitler'd" to death every time we tried to confront them about an actual real issue that could result in the doom of the country.
The unapproachability of dictators was one of the reasons as to why hitler cost the nazi's the war; he demanded he have higher strategic command over his commanders
Lived in East Germany, family suffered over decades under oppression, Stasi surveillance etc. kys
he was really crazy and too isolationist even for a commie, but what could you expect of a country whose history is 100% of guerilla and freedom fighting against empires
Yes
None of communism defenders under Russian flag are ethnic Russians. They are either some national minority shitskins or simply kikes, of which we have a lot. Of course they can just be bluepilled beyond measure, but i believe anyone with at least 85 IQ can see through that blue pill.
Propaganda book.
>no fire until the 40's
Rly mde me thunk
>no true Russian
>t. SIDF
fpbp
Kosinski's The Painted Bird has been exposed as a fraud decades ago and that has not stopped the NYT to further their lies around the holocaust industry.
Steps is excellent, however
lol, what an ungratefull cunt
your shitty country should have been turned into a potato field, but it was ebil Stalin who defended your degenerate nation and made sure we will rebuild it from ruins.
Hope you enjoy living under capitalism, truck rape baby
Kike mongrel please.
How old are you, Ivan?
good book op try also this
if this was about Holocaust it would probably been already turn into movie
great piece on how the everyday life been in the gulag from a polish prisoner view
>6 millions Jews were actually only 5.999.999 Jews, that means it's all lies and Hitler did nothing wrong
>200 millions GULAG prisoners were actually only 20 millions, that means all lies and Staling did nothing wrong
imo, every time a nation gets liberated from a shitty totalitarian regime, it needs to be dismantled, renamed and forbidden from learning it's real history, cause tards will always find a way to justify shit.
>yfw there are russians who had their relatives executed by NKVD but they are still stalinists.
>yfw there are russians who had their relatives executed by NKVD but they are still stalinists
en.wikipedia.org
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>yfw there are russians who had their relatives executed by NKVD
Never happened except to some kikes, degenerates and traitors. No wonder they cry the loudest about billions of people personally killed by Stalin.
I don't call Georgians degenerate just because they bred this felon and hillbilly. Keep that in mind
>communist calls someone bluepilled
i need healing
thanks russia bro. Google translate failed. Need to work on my Russian
>burger who's drip-fed propaganda about muh child eating Soviets since birth thinks he's not blue-pilled
Didn't the guys wife admit that he exaggerated all over the place and always used the highest death toll estimates on purpose?
>It was pretty bad for a couple hundred million people who aren't around to give their opinions.
>Total population of soviet union ~150mil after ww2
We know americants cant into maths but at least try to not be a walking stereotype
Sure,
Everything is a hoax
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Jewish Pogroms during Russian Revolution is a hoax, like Stalin paranoia against Jews before his death
Museum of Terror of Budapest is a hoax
Museum of Communism is a hoax
KGB Museum in Vilnius is a hoax
Holodomor is a hoax
Katyn is a hoax
Illegal invasion of Baltic Countries (and the fact that you convieniently celebrate your (((Great Patriotic War))) conviniently from 1941, because you dindu nuffing wrong before) is a hoax
Chechens death march for Kazakhstan is a hoax
Your betrayal against Warsaw Uprising leaders only to put your commies in charge of power there is a hoax
Stalin sending Nazi ordinary soldiers for Gulags is a hoax
Sending Russian to leave in other Soviet countries just for use the "muh Lebensraum" argument is a hoax.
Using Czech secret service for spreading the history that Brazilian 1964 coup "was planned by CIA" (google Ladislav Bittman).
Using Bulgarian secrec service for hire Ali Agca to kill the Pope is a hoax
Creating Libertation Theology inside Catholic church (google Ion Mihai Pacepa) is a hoax
Creating the hoax about "Pius XII was a Nazi" is a hoax
The list goes on and on and on...