Canada's telecom regulator declares internet an essential service

>Canada's telecom regulator CRTC declares internet an essential service, mandates 50Mbps down, 10Mbps up for all, creates $750M fund to subsidize rural rollout

business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/crtc-declares-high-speed-internet-a-basic-service-creates-750-million-fund

Should all developed countries ensure people in rural area have good internet connection?

I live in a rural area.

I've been waiting for years to get 50 down/10 up, and it's still not here. It's not fair when people in the cities can get nearly a gigabit down.

Of course, how else will we be able to download rare pepes from Sup Forums at a reasonable speed?

>only able to visit blacked.com

t. Alberto Barbosa

Calm down leaf, just having fun :^]

t. Alberto Barbosa

It's also not fair that you drive on a two lane road while cities have 8 lane freeways

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Those two are not at all the same thing.

t. Alberto Barbosa

It looks like he just had an autistic meltdown and the nigger is calming him down.

That's his wife's sex coach

>ISP offers me "24" Mbps for 25$/month
>max down speed is 800kb/s
already called them 3 times. service was useless. and only managed to get my max down speed from 650 to 800kb/s.

government is the only thing that can protect you from these (((private businessmen))).

My building is so old, I tried to get 150Mbps down 15Mbps up and the speed test varies from 22-45 down.

Fkn gay.

Shitposting at third-world speed.

The main problem in Canada is that people who live in some rural area have no access to broadband internet, period.

They don't even live that far from large cities (just an hour drive from London), and the only option they have for internet access is some extremely spotty wireless connection that has 25 GB usage cap, can do maybe 1 Mbps down on a good day, and goes down the second it rains.

yeah you can get it a gazillion mbps but you have to pay like 150bucks or something like that, I get 25mbps and its totally fine, 15mbps cause of wifi of course.

>The CRTC expects to double its annual collections to $200 million within five years by requiring providers such as BCE Inc., Rogers Communications Inc. and Telus Corp. to contribute a percentage of their retail Internet revenue. These costs may be passed on to consumers.
Of course we will be paying for it.

Basic service designation also allows CRTC to regulate broadband internet connection price like they do with landline phone.

There just needs to be political pressure on CRTC to exercise their right to regulate broadband pricing.

when you consider it's private companies responsible for giving you the internet, your argument is even worse

is it not fair for people in Vancouver that houses cost this much, maybe rural property taxes should be raised to subsidize urban homeowners

I was interested of moving to Canada because I have relatives there but every day I keep hearing socialist shit from there and I'm not so interested anymore. I've been to Vancouver, it's pretty beautiful place
I can't believe my relatives actually like Trudeau

NEETs in cities can go live in bumfuck nowhere and free up the housing in cities if you build fibre internet to rural area.

fuck off cunt. Vancouver and Toronto are absolute cancer. You are an example of said cancer.

GO BACK TO CHINA

That's pretty cool

I have 15 down/1up and I live in the city.

I also have an unlimited download cap and pay less than $50

its honestly good enough for me

I live in the city. $50 per month, 125 GB cap, 15 Mbps down, 0.3 Mbps up and that's the best Rogers says they can do in this area. Also no 3rd parties available, just Rogers and Bell. Fuggen sucks man.

I live in the suburbs and my interest is seldom faster than 4 mb download, not the responsibility of the government to fix the internet but fuck that would be nice

>creates $750M fund to subsidize rural rollout

t. IT consultant who has seen telecom ogliopolies piss this money away over and over yet governments never learn.

stupid canadians.

they will offer faster, cheaper internet but what will actually happen is a thousand pages of regulations that will lead to slower, more expensive internet prices, along with new taxes, along with a lot more government overreach and censorship of internet providers.

dont let your govt make any laws in regard to the internet, it will only make it less good.

> people in the cities can get nearly a gigabit down.

Not true at all for residential or business in general, although speeds are sufficient that bandwidth isn't really a big concern.

I'm going to say yes. Because the internet at it's core, is the closest thing to the sum of all human knowledge we have at the moment.

Easy cheep access to that is a huge advantage for the species.

The only negative, is cost.
750 million for canada? Seems a bit steep. But it's a big country. Even though it's mostly one road from east to west.

The US of A would have a much harder time making it a reality cost wise.

Private companies provide access to the service. But Bell Canada/ the taxpayers own the infrastructure.

Nah Canadas problem is that it's one of the most sparsely populated countries in the first world. The problem isn't that it's super duper expensive for telecoms to expand their service, so much as it's super duper expensive for a new competitor to enter the market, so it naturally creates an anti-competitive market. Canada is paying more per GB than anywhere else in the world for mobile data.

Conservative party tried to get a new market entrant to fight the big 3 telecoms up here, which are a thinly veiled oligopoly, but stuff like mobile service is only available in cities. Crown telecoms like Sasktel have been successful in lowering prices, expanding rural sevice, while not being an unprofitable investment for the province of Saskatchewan, so I'm willing to consider left wing solutions because they have proven more effective than right wing solutions in many cases. I'm not an ideologue, I'll go with what works. Regulators lowering the rate for access to the big 3 telecoms networks just led to price drops for internet service for teksavvy customers. Also I recall long distance rates across Canada dropping from 1.50 a minute to a few cents a minute back in the day after regulators got involved.

When dealing with oligopolies, muh free market doesn't work. Even with the conservatives solution of bringing a 4th entrant to the market, they did that by creating a bunch of favorable conditions like selling wireless spectrum to a 4th entrant for rock bottom prices in an auction not open to the big 3. Which is hardly letting the invisible hand of the free market work.

My problem with what they're doing isn't setting regulations, so much as entrusting ISPs with gibsmoney for a rural broadband rollout.

Also keep in mind this $750 million in spending is coming when Canada is ALREADY running a deficit.

Vancouver is my home, our provincial elections are between commies and neolibrals.

Plz help

Good news for me I guess, live half hour from a big city and have borderline third world internet.

>Should all developed countries ensure people in rural area have good internet connection?
Yes.
There's a reason the late nineties were such a tech boom in the US - direct result of an initiative to put computers in every household and make public internet access in libraries and schools equal across hte country. The only hiccup was when (((They))) used it as a scam to milk millions out of the economy, only recently got caught and will probably get pardoned like they did when Clinton left.

>mfw actually work for a canadian ISP

This is a great news for us if they go along and make 50 the minimum speed.
More money to me and more men to cuck while I assist their wives to the best of my abilities :^)

>The only hiccup was when (((They))) used it as a scam to milk millions out of the economy

Yeah I realized this happened which is why giving $750 million of borrowed money to our telecom oligopoly with the promise they will do a rural broadband rollout worries me.

Canada also already has quite a big tech scene - and our best and brightest go south for better wages and lower taxes - and the reason the US offers those things is they spend less public money on shit. So in a sense, I don't agree government spending is the right way to stimulate our IT market, so much as keeping our best and brightest in Canada with more competitive job offers.

I smell corruption honestly.

1 hour from Ottawa you cant get the internet.

Now imagine if I told you in 1995 that 1 hour from Ottawa, you couldnt get a phone line.

Third world country.

If you can get a phone line, you can most probably get the internet, at like 1mbits or less


And if it's not available, it's because the company doesn't want to spend 50 000$ to expand the network in that remote area so that a few dudes can pay back 30$ for your internet