Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
Daily reminder that Communism doesn't feed people.
Samuel Wood
that meme, thank you based user
also sage
Lucas Parker
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Cooper Parker
Suck a dick nigger
Andrew Adams
Hi comrade, what did you mean with that ?
Jaxon Jones
It's past your bedtime Pinko Spico.
Brandon Morales
I would be pro-communism if it wasn't anti-theistic. A lot communist values actually sync with Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
Nicholas Mitchell
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Carson Morgan
Alright, i'll listen to you guys. Why will communism make my life better?
Grayson Cook
fag
Joshua Bailey
>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the Capitalist stage >tfw Totalitarian regime is the next stage of humanity following the Communist stage
I'll be hiding in my hole when the happenings
Parker Hughes
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Matthew Butler
Fuck off.
Matthew Roberts
I see no problem, why don't you want a world with rational people instead of deluded people?
Cooper Bennett
When will Sup Forums realise that communism is the end game?
Ryder Cook
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Ethan Anderson
fuck off with your effeminate leftypol raid pinko scum
Kayden Gonzalez
Because it...well actually...
I can't even bullshit a reason. It sounds nice right? Why not "from each what they can, to each what they need"?
Well "from each what they can" is hard to accomplish because there will always be freeloaders. The only way to make it work is force freeloaders to work.
Asher Ramirez
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Daniel Rogers
At least contribute to the board and bump other threads, commie scum
Dominic Thompson
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Jackson Watson
I hope Marx tongues your tight virgin commie assholes
Brandon Hill
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Joseph Davis
are you a communist?
Jaxson Parker
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Blake Lewis
>I see no problem, why don't you want a world with rational people instead of deluded people?
Irony.
Adrian Watson
There's no K-pop in communism.
Colton Campbell
>are you a communist
Not sure, what actions of mine would entail that I am a communist?
Brayden Green
People can sing in communism why not?
Bentley Stewart
gas yourself fag. and stop posting the same fucking shit thread every day.
Hunter Brown
Because they're all too hungry and feeble to care about anything else other than survival... Communism, no matter how to try to relabel it, it simply against human nature and will NEVER work... In theory, I can almost kind of see the appeal, but that shit is a fucking pipe dream.
Dominic Reyes
Should capitalism, religion, and fascism be banned from Sup Forums? They contribute nothing to the board.
Isaac Cook
bump
Carson Thomas
Calm down comrade ,communism is good for everybody, is the future of humanity.
Wyatt Martinez
KYS DUMB POLACK
Blake Walker
I'm desperately trying to get something from this board. I need to be redpilled on communism but all I get is semi-retard shitposts about "communism is good, trust me goy"
Robert Morris
Bump
Colton Robinson
>the same spen shill again
Eli Roberts
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Daniel Moore
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Jackson Young
Sup Forums will be communist in a years time so you won't see them anymore by then
Henry Martinez
but thats wrong you retard
Levi Cook
seras fusilado campeon
Camden Foster
This. This fucking explains this retarded ass board.
>Communism thread >no actual discussion about communism >can't get a red pill to save my life.
Very effective tactics 9fags. You are certainly "out arguing".
Atheistic socialism already has failed and must fail every other time.
You cannot build a fair society without Charity, unconditional love to every other, and without Reverence of God, the Ultimate Good Principle.
Without these, your Value Orientation is not anchored and always will slip to the wrong side...
Also to note, Selfish Capitalism and Feudalism are both incompatible with true Christianity...
Joseph Price
fags
Henry Taylor
Christianity is bourgeois, it has to be liquidated.
Gabriel Adams
This.
Jaxon Cruz
>communism will work if we add Christianity! Kill yourself
Joshua Morales
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Julian Turner
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Chase Sanchez
Porque siempre es un hijo d puta español con los threads comunistas. Fuck off
Jaxon Kelly
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Josiah Hernandez
memeing back uh? It was time.
Jordan Long
POST ANZU
Eli Diaz
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Nathaniel Harris
Vete a vivir a un pais comunista de verdad y ve a ver cuantos años duras viviendo bajo comunismo puro y duro antes de querer suicidarte, es muy facil hablar desde paises europeos sobre las virtudes del comunismo.
>Podemos only managed to beat PSOE because they literally self-destructed, and only by a thin margin >the left crumbling away already worldwide
The death of the Soviet Union left this kind of ideology stranded and now it's slowly dying. Wouldn't want to be in your place.
But hey, you had your last URAH.
Caleb Rogers
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Aaron Smith
>tfw when the left is dying i didn't even realize it until you said it just now
Lincoln Stewart
Commies should be set on fire
Kayden Green
What's funny is that it's a direct cause of the left pushing hard their garbage. Trump's victory has more to do with people being angry at all this anti-white attacks than with Trump's propositions, that, and Clinton being shady as fuck, of course. And then all the muslim cancer spreading over Europe is making everyone go defensive. Except Germany, but I think even Hitler wouldn't miss anything if we nuked them.
Michael Watson
i hope we can still save cuckmany some day
William Nguyen
>can't make actual communism work physically >relies on a magical wizard to make it function POETRY O E T R Y
Ryan Thomas
Can someone give me an academic rebuttal to this? Realistically, how could you maintain a stable communist society in this day and age?
Oliver Lopez
There is such a thing as Christian communism. Marx is a political writer, not a prophet.
Daily reminder that communism's biggest export is starvation.
Logan Flores
You can't. Communism is inherently flawed because it relies on older ways and older societies. If you have a traditional isolationist it might work for a bit but then it devolves into a dictatorship
Gabriel Myers
So are you guys just larpers or what?
Jonathan Stewart
Communist.
Julian Powell
The only aspect of socialism that is unstable is the fact that capitalist nations tend to lure the most educated workers by means of bribery. An egalitarian society needs everyone, not just the factory grunts. That issue does not exist under world communism.
Connor Diaz
Please throw yourself from a helicopter
Austin Cox
Friendly reminder that Tohsaka Rin canonically pleasures men for money.
Colton Rogers
reminder that fate/whatever is fucking garbage
Oliver Cruz
But how would Trotskyism work in the information age? How would you prevent another Warsaw Pact scenario? It just doesn't seem feasible.
Just like this thread. And discussing animu is more constructive than discussing communism or trying to argue with a bunch of retarded tankies who don't even know anyone who lived under communism and didn't see how a post-communist country looks like. In any case, feel free to propose an alternative sage discussion topic to sink this shitpiece.
Joseph Jones
Bump!
Jaxson Reed
Orthodox Marxism doesnt work:
1. The Hegelian dialectic is no longer in use because we use empirical observation, reducing the post-Capitalist utopia to an aesthetic conceit and corrupting Marx's theories and giving us no guidance while using Marxism in modern economics. 2. Thus even if you force Marxism down, you will no longer be able to apply it to our modern society with the tools given by Marx and nobody but Orthodox Marxists will be willing to guide you, which is not a group of economic masterminds, the Neo-Marxists will not help you. 3. While Marx was right about his theory that the free-market loop will eventually break itself, social norms and the environment, the government has stepped in to to steer the loop away from collapsing. The American Thatcherist/Reaganomics era saw a revival of free-market principles, and then proved Marx's point again. This being entirely fixed in modern society means that it's no longer a problem, so why do you persist on an inevitable collapse? 4. If you believe the collapse will happen because of his entfremdung theory, which is his theory where the worker needs to work just to survive until he becomes alienated and grows class consciousness and then writes a strong criticism that riles all of the laborers together to overthrow Capitalism, as they do not approve of the reforms that the government will implement to save themselves. But if someone has the intellectual skills and theoretical tools to develop such a critique, they would not be alienated within Capitalism. And if they are working an alienating job, they won't have the time, tools, intellect or motivation to develop such theories and will never gather enough forces to overthrow Capitalism.
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Jonathan Perry
ageru
Logan Collins
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Nolan Cooper
5. Neo-Marxists have completely rejected orthodox Marxists and have been developing their own theories within pur current knowledge of economics, they have embraced Capitalism for the most part, thus proving that if you apply Pragmatism and empirical observation that you will not end up with Communism or Socialism but social policies.
6. Marx has been proven wrong about his theory of primitive man as they were not Communists but held and valued property and traded products.
7. Humans are build to evolve and increase their own standing, the human brain does not work like the orthodox Narxist wants.
Nolan Howard
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Anthony Powell
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Liam Bennett
You are the son of a bitch from yesterday, arent you?
>YUGOSLAVIA best example for communism
>SOVIET RUSSIA was STATE AUTHORETERIAN CAPITALISM no real COMMUNISM
Why dont you fuck off already?
Europe deals with marxism everyday, everybody had enough of your BS.
GTFO----- to REDDIT
Gabriel Gutierrez
Cultural marxism has got nothing to do with Christianity, and nothing to do with actual Socialism !
Consider political compass. Cultural marxism is bottom-left corner or even bottom side not left or right. The Chaos.
The Socialism that at least little works is top-left corner, possibly top center (National Socialism) ...
You will never succeed against God. It has already been tried and failed. It was predicted this way long ago, even with exact timings...
Jaxon Williams
bampu
Jackson Cox
Bring back the soviet union cuckitalist.
Austin Lee
>Literally get ignored
I guess this is not the thread for meaningful disscussion, well in that case.
>S H I T P O S T I N G You Commies lost, enjoy a far-right nationalist Europe for your family to live in.
