Ben Shapiro, redpill or (((media)))

Honestly Sup Forums, why don't you like Ben Shapiro? This guy does nothing but drop redpills, but all you guys do is shit on him. Is it really because he is a jew that doesn't like memes, or is there something I'm missing?

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Other than him being a bit of a twerp, I like him fine.

Not trolling, just genuinely curious.

Something about his actions after some woman got grabbed by trump security

I get that he is a twerp, but as far as I can tell from his videos I find online, he seems like a genuine based conservative, which is why I don't understand how this board as a whole doesn't life him.

Can you elaborate, or post an article?

I like him for the most part but he was annoying when he overreacted to the Lewandowski thing.

He is apologetic somehow, also said that Hillary is the same as Trump. How stupid you can be to say that two candidates with different policies are the same thing.

>muh israel
>muh cuckservatism

/pol isn't conservative on the whole

>redpilled
>doesn't like memes

Pick one

His podcast is amazing.

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I see he considers them both equally bad as they are both lefists, which he has some evidence back his claim. But as far as I've seen, he only disses trump when he acts dumb online, or when he uses leftist tactics.

Everything you need to know:

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This is common knowledge if you aren't supremely newfag. It was CNN newscycle for a week after it happened.

>woman alleges she was attacked by trumps security
>only super staged, shitty (((audio))) files of woman venting about what happened appear
>Ben jumps on it immediately, using it to vent his frustration about Brietbart being a bunch of Trump panderers by not just listening and believing.
>photo/video evidence shows nothing of the sort happens
>Ben ragequits his editor position and licks his wounds

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"Genocide isn't genocide." - Ben Shapiro

He's based, but not redpilled. If he was redpilled he would've burned his yamaka already.

he's a corrupt faggot

a one trick pony that regurgitates 2-3 of other people's books

he went full narrative quitting breitbart and lying about it

he lies, lies by omission, lies by strawman, screams that the sky is blue for ten minutes than comes up with some ridiculous excuse for why he should cut off babies dicks and why racism is bad, then when you say "wtf bro" he screams "is the sky not blue?"

All he does it make fun of whiney fucking liberals and makes muted arguments against the crap race baiting - he hates Trump because Trump has made him obsolete

He's just acting out thinking what will get him the bigger audience

He's the anita sarkeesian of the right. He's a glenn fucking beck

He criticized trump and his support for tariffs, because Shapiro actually understands economics beyond "muh jobs".

That's in part why Sup Forums hates him, because he doesn't automatically suck Trump's dick. But the biggest reason is because he's and orthodox jew. There's no graver sin for this board.

Is Sup Forums not considered alt-right, or is it that the alt-right isn't actually conservative?

the only good thing he does is btfo sjw and blm-tier leftists. which is pretty unimpressive if we are being honest. he's just another jewish "conservative" who puts israel before america. also major cuckservative and went full sjw during the election.

Wow, he admitted back then Trump was a good candidate who was going to win.

I dislike Ben Shapiro because he pressured a mentally ill woman into filing a false police report.

He's Jewish, pro-Israel and anti-Trump. Sup Forums can't like anyone, no matter how based, that disagrees with them on a single issue.

I enjoy the chap. He has right wing values and can put his cases forward well and debate them, and always has the facts and arguments that crush those he is debating. He is definitely a bit of a twerp, but can win people over.

He's just fake edge.

A tiny man that pretends to be anti-stuff and scream loud but in reality he's just sitting in his corner and get nothing done.

yes, the alt right isnt conservative. You cant conserve what wasnt there in the first place, like aggresive ethnonationalism.

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People hate him because he didn't think trump was a god?

Shapiro is great on almost everything. I disagree with a few of his views but he is without doubt one of the greatest opponents of the Regressive Left that we've got.

Fuckers on Sup Forums need to start being realistic and stop demonizing this guy simply because he's a Jew.

Yes. Same reason they hated Cruz.

>People hate him because he didn't think trump was a god?

The trump supporters started hating on him back in the primary when then trump's campaign manager was accused of shoving a woman to the ground. Shapiro knew this reporter and defended her. Breitbart was in the tank for trump (and still is), and sided with trump. Shapiro got angry and left.

It turned into this big drama which was stupid.

That's what started the hate against shapiro. It continues against him, and really any conservative who doesn't suck trump's cock.

Because this board likes trump. Not really for ideological reasons. They'll defend basically anything he does. Sup Forums just likes the idea of a strong leader, which is why they secretly like putin, and even hitler. These are strong men and strong leaders. That doesn't mean they're good leaders, good for the world or their people, but that really doesn't matter.

Everyone who doesn't support the strong man is a beta cuck. And there you have the heart of the ideology of the alt-right, aside from all the real racist crap, which I would love to assume were just memes. But some people aren't joking.

ding ding ding

he's got a few good clips on youtube where he makes solid points, but listen to 2-3 of his speeches and you will quickly find he just regurgitates the same shit

I can almost mouth the words to his Zoe Turr story by now, complete with the same tired ass jokes. You can see the smug on his face when he gets to the punchline because 19 year old young republicans think its hilarious.

I hear he charges a shit load for his lectures too

Hi Ben.

It sounds like he is saying get them before they get you, which sounds a lot like the narrative of this board in regards of refugees.

Rampant ben shapiro free market libertarianism leads to degeneracy and immoral capitalism.

Shapiro's foreign policy is literally neo-con garbage.

He is only good at debunking basic bitch SJWs which is really just low hanging fruit, and since they have been BTFO eternally by Trump-him and Milo are irrelevant as fuck.

So one bad case makes him the enemy?

because he is a manlet

>Sup Forums
>jew
>being called out on their shitposting.

>didn't think trump was a god?
He actively shilled against Trump over the most mundane, SJW nonsense story of the year. If Ben Shapiro got his way originally (ted cruz/jeb), then we would be living through 8 years of a Hillary Presidency and the white race would be completely and utterly hopeless.

Sort of like how Ben shilled against Trump over a single issue?

Which is the real narrative?

He is basically that kid in high school who wouldn't help you on your homework or let you cheat off of him because he was a self-righteous boy who wanted to follow the rules.

If you can't tell the difference between shitpost tier banter and serious posting you need to lurk more not make the same fucking thread that gets made 100 times a week

Damn, maybe.

This. He's an intellectual and a future leader for the right. These are the guys we should be supporting to carry the torch.

But alt-retards are too caught up in their white supremacist memes and jew jokes to actually focus on policy matters. So they'll scoff at shapiro while embracing someone like Richard Spencer, who could be a pretty decent leader, if he'd drop the legit white-supremacist complex.

The real answer to your question is that the same identity politics that the Left has used relentlessly to attack whites over the last 10 years has now been embraced again by whites themselves (just as they were beginning to truly admit the foolishness of unjustified prejudices, ahead of any other race, I might add).

Ideas and logically consistent commitment to them have been abandoned and mindless in-group obsession has been embraced defensively instead.

In other words, our entire country and culture is regressing back into primitive barbarism, the intellectual, philosophical, and political achievements of Enlightenment humanism are being systematically undermined and lost.

Shapiro is simply one example of the manifold incongruities that result when reason and discipline of thought are deprioitized.

I like him, he just takes shit sooooo fucking personally and holds the stupidest grudges. He's pretty much sjw level crying over Milo and Breitbart at this point.

There's just something that seems suspicious about Jews who are famous/are in the eye of the public, you know.

This is my only beef with him and all those conservatives with a superstitious belief in the infallibility of the Market.

Well obviously shit posts are shit posts, but even in this thread there are people who don't like him because of this not assulted woman, while others are saying that people are overreacting to his stance on this matter.

>Rampant ben shapiro free market libertarianism leads to degeneracy and immoral capitalism.

Yes, free market capitalism is the worst. We should instead subsidize industries and protect 3rd world jobs if Americans want to do them. Because your shitty manufacturing job is more important than people's take home pay. Everyone else should be poorer to protect those jobs.

Let's just apply this to every industry, so executives no longer have to worry about being competitive and efficient. That's certainly better than free market capitalism.

>Shapiro's foreign policy is literally neo-con garbage.

You're absolutely right. We should cuck ourselves and let Russia, China, and other countries dominate world politics.

This is why you guys are called the "alt-right". Because you aren't really on the right. You have too much in common with the lefties you claim to have eternally BTFO'd. And when Trump starts getting in bed with Schumer and other lefties, and starts deficit spending like a lefty, you'll still claim some sort of ideological victory.

Looks an awful lot like surrender and placating to me. But it can't be. Because only a beta cuck would do that.

Close but he is more intelligent then the other two.

I like him just because hes the most well articulated conservatives out there

He also believes that Russia actually rigged the election for Trump, and thinks you're a jackass if you don't agree.

>reddit infiltrates the new right movement labeling alt-right
>they proceed to use internet slang irl making themselves look retarded
>most of those faggots still post here and probably are never gonna leave
>they try to fit on Sup Forums with the "gas all kikes race war nao xD"

Gee l wonder why. Its GooberGabber all over again.

hello ben how's it going

Nice logical fallacies, Ben.

But I truly do like him. I share most of his opinions and he is really good at argumentation. I have no reason not to like him.

Sup Forums dislikes him because he doesn't blindly suck on Trump's cock.

He's really cute, wanna fuck him so bad. Hmnngggg

I agree with him on good things. He's real good about pointing out hypocrisy on both sides. I'm annoyed he supports the ADL and refuses to acknowledge how much the pharmaceutical companies and health insurers are fucking everyone over.

woman and shapiro claimed it was "assault and battery", filed a police report and both quit there job at breitbard claiming trump was sexist racist misogynist etc etc etc.

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needless to saywhen the tape came out of her being (((assaulted))) the charges were quickly dropped by the prosecutor

Well of course they did.

They revealed some crucial information about Hillary.

There is nothing wrong with that though.

You guys are so sensitive. You simply cannot find a person with whom you agree 100% on everything. Unless you are an idiot who concentrates on the person rather than his opinions (this is for you faggots having daddy issues and picturing Trump as your new dad).

No we dislike him because he is a total hypocrite. Everything he complains about the left are tactics he uses when it suits him.

In the michelle fields case all he did was bitch about sexism and misogyny. In the milo thing all he does is cry about how he is the victim of so much anti-semitism.

hes no different than leftists who try to shut down arguments by name calling

> Russia actually rigged the election for Trump
he believes they were involved in the hack of the DNC, he doesn't think they 'hacked the election'

He's a never trumper.

>Everything he complains about the left are tactics he uses when it suits him.

Have you ever debated anyone? That is the fucking key of debating.

That Michelle fields debacle proved he was just controlled opposition

>tfw accidental larp

You forgot to call me a jew and a cuck. You disappoint me Sup Forums.

So then he is no different from leftists with his constant crying of misogyny and anti semitism.

gotcha

All of ben's carefully crafted arguments fell apart when he resorted to using sjw tactics like accusing trump of being "toxic masculinity" and banking on the michelle fields story sinking trump's campaign.

it's funny if you think about it. all that time he spent criticizing the left and then is forced to resort to using their strategies to win because his own cannot.

I watch his podcast at the Daily Wire and generally listen to him. On fiscal policy and SJW he's fantastic, but let's be honest, at this point that kind of shit is low hanging fruit. On stuff that really matters like nationalism, he's bad for us. Also it's hard to take him seriously on social conservatism and religion, but that's most conservatives so whatever.

There's three reasons where I legitimately dislike him and believe makes him irredeemable.

>His citing that Trump refused to disavow the KKK initially to pander to the alt-right, rather than just because he didn't know who David Duke was and wasn't willing to take the media's word for it that he was a racist when the media calls everyone racist. Not only is this blatantly intellectually dishonest to the point where it has to be intentional, he cites it as the main reason he couldn't vote for Trump.

>The entire Michelle Fields debacle. He was so desperate for anyway to smear Trump that instead of criticising Trump's policy, he leaps at the chance to defend a liar and doubles down when it's proven irrevocably false. To be fair, he paid hard for this, and his career still hasn't recovered since.

>His preference for Israel over the west, his willingness to put Israeli interests over American interests despite the fact he claims to be an American. There aren't supposed to be hyphenated Americans. He's an interventionalist when it suits Israel and a kike.

Also he's a rabid defender of rabbi cutting off your son's foreskin and drinking the cock blood but I guess that's all jews.

When it comes to le conservative pundit, I prefer Tucker Carlson and Steven Crowder.

i've started liking crowder more and more lately. he's genuinely a pretty funny comedian, and his brand of conservatism is a lot easier to swallow than ben's. ben wouldn't have a single problem if every company in america outsourced every single job.

There's a fundamental difference in priority that separates you neocons and other archaic elitists from most other people, and you're right this distinction does group the alt-righties with the Leftist regressives, as well as with the religious, isolationists, and most others.

The difference is you prioritize Power over all else. Power is your god, and capitalism your religion as the directest route toward Power. You must recognize the evils (degeneracy) that inevitably arises when profit alone dictates the workings of a society.

You may find fulfillment in the pursuit of Power, though I suspect you do not. Most who prioritize it don't. They're motivated by insecurity and fear, innate in all, but perhaps more acutely felt in the most ambitious, amplified by experience, or maybe both. History is full of powerful, yet ultimately miserable men.

There are people who prioritize that Fulfillment above, and they aren't so motivated by fear that they abandon their pursuit. They find their fulfillment in their religion, their ethnic community, etc.

Capitalism is a tool, but by no means should it dictate the inner workings of a society.

Milo is a retard. He focuses on pissing people off for fun instead of talking about actual policy.

yea well no one cares about actual policy anymore so tough tits. this is a cultural war.

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because he's a fuckin two-faced ulterior-motived Jew just like all the rest of them

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Nice thumbnail faggot

he's a rat. not going to be his useful goy toy.

He says a lot of common sense things that SJW can't possibly understand because they're too deep in their autistic world.
However, there's always that pro-Israel, pro-Jew disgusting bullshit that he always tries to push.

Shapiro thinks the US spending money on infrastructure is socialism

Apparently first world economies function with shit roads and gimped tunnels for containers to pass under

You can not take a conservative seriously who uses the rethoric of the left with racist, bigot or xenophobic against other conservative.
Since the Michelle Field event he is just a disgrace to every user,