Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
Nice, name a country where communism works better than capitalism pls
Angel Clark
Communism doesn't work faggot,
Luis Morales
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Eli Lewis
But it does comrade.
Levi Roberts
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Nathan Edwards
where are the proofs
Brandon Turner
>Hello Comrades. The only good commie is a dead one.
Hudson Gutierrez
bump for interest
Jace Butler
This is now a banana general.
Post bananas
Levi Taylor
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Carter Reed
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Carson Wood
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Thomas Smith
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Jordan Mitchell
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James Thomas
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Caleb Jackson
in what way?
Aaron Foster
It's real in his mind.
Josiah Sanders
>cute communist anime grill sign me up. seriously tho fuck outta here ya god damn commie.
Communism is a classless, stateless, currencyless society and thus a "communist country" is an oxymoron. And capitalism is hardly a successful system, the world produces more food than it needs and yet people still starve. Seems like a missalocation of resources and thus an economic failure to me
Christopher Bell
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Henry Wright
>people are starving in Africa >bring in communism >now people are starving here as well
Benjamin Roberts
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Joshua Campbell
I just said that the world produces more food than it needs, and you can't just "bring in communism" it doesn't happen like that. Communism can only occur after decades or centuries of socialism. The changes of human stages of development have to be gradual
Kevin Hall
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Jonathan Butler
SIEEEG HEIL!
Michael Phillips
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Luis Taylor
>classless literally impossible
Ayden Fisher
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Carson Ross
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Jonathan Foster
>Human nature doesn't exist: The ideology
Austin Lewis
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Charles Wilson
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Daniel Bell
Explain to me why a classless society is impossibel
because its a direct defilement of human nature, there will always be greed, so many will strive to gain more power and wealth and become the upper class. And when the upper class is removed, say in the revolution of the USSR. There is a power vaccum and someone will fill it, whether they are noble blood or a peasant revolutionist.
History has proven this time and time again.
Justin Jenkins
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Dominic Sanders
>this thread
Zachary Young
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Joseph Brooks
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Isaiah Morris
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Angel Gonzalez
I would argue human nature doesn't exist or at the very least isn't this unchanging constant. Human behaviour is affected by their material conditions. Change the material conditions, change the human
Grayson Rivera
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Dylan Watson
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Nolan Ramirez
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Nolan Foster
no, humans naturally want more and more we're naturally greedy
Hunter Ortiz
>i would argue that human nature doesn't exist
Ayden Murphy
> Alpha as fuck Fucking cringe
Asher Torres
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Chase Edwards
Fuck communism with literally no respect for democracy or institutions.
Social Democracy is the real option.
Jace Sanders
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Ryder Perez
> giving power to workers It worked here sooo well Sage
Ayden Gutierrez
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Angel Ortiz
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Adam Lewis
social democracy is literally the most disgusting political belief desu
Landon Jenkins
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Anthony Martinez
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Ayden Gray
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Jaxon Thompson
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Jace Phillips
free helicopter rides for all commies
Leo Williams
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Josiah Turner
>All that matters is building up the nation so creativity doesn't matter Communism is a society that doesn't have states as I previously explained. I would say creativity would increase under communism as people would be freed from long ours because of the efficiency of the modern economy. We already produce more than we need for profit so removing that means people could work for 10 hours a week and still produce everything society needs (possibly less because of automation)
Asher Fisher
saged
reminder to sage bait and slide threads
Camden James
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Matthew Adams
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Ethan Smith
Nah, that's communism.
Zachary Allen
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Blake Brooks
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Owen Wood
>TELLS WHITE PEOPLE RACE/BORDERS ARE A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT >BUILDS JEWISH ETHNOSTATE SURROUNDED BY A WALL WHAT DID (((THEY))) MEAN BY THIS?
Christian Thomas
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Jayden Clark
Why isbot impossible? Here (you) go.
>Everybody is equal.
Not the case.
>The Fields need worked so we don't starve
You allocate people to work the fields and wveryone must recieve equal pay and equal rights, everything must be equal.
So the poor workmen go out and work 18 hours days to bring in the crop, all while being desperately overworked, but hey, it's in the name of equality right?
Now, it is realised there must be a group who must "oversee" the project of field work. So now the smarter workers are now or have been a part of an Overseer committee.
So while the Overseer Committtee gets the same pay amd works merely a four hour day. They are getting the same "equal" treatment as someonw who works the field for 18 hours a day. While they sit back in a comfy room and don't do any labour.
Not only thay, but there will always be "leaders" who are just a ruling class above everyone else, basically a dynasty or Despots who live in luxury.
Lenninism and Communism is the hreat deceit of the jews.
Why do you think it's alway College "educated" people who want Communism and start the movements amd not the workers who start the movements? Even the "educated" end up gettinf ousted by the stronger Males.
Landon Walker
Pfft you have no idea whether it will work or not. You need countless conditions and scenarios to go just right for you idealised version of communism just to work. Even if it did work, you wouldn't like the results and then you would dismiss it as "not real communism"
Leo James
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Logan Parker
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Dominic Ward
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Blake Phillips
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Isaiah Hall
> Karl Marx was actually Modechei Marx untill he was 9
Logan Murphy
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Austin Gutierrez
Dont argue. Post memes
Ayden Williams
>fuck your effeminate leftypol raid
Commies.. Dead commies. Beautiful.
Lincoln Davis
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Dylan Anderson
>I would argue human nature doesn't exist
Well that explains why you have a retarded ideology.
Xavier Baker
The only real prerequisit is global socialism, so people can get use to running the means of production collectively by the workers. Just like the transition from feudalism to capitalism didn't happen overnight, the same will be true for capitalism - socialism and then socialism - communism
Justin Rodriguez
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Luis Stewart
>From feudalism to Capitalism >Not overnight
It basically was though. It
Easton Long
So 200 years is overnight is it?
Wyatt Perez
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James Young
>The only real prerequisit is global socialism, so people can get use to running the means of production collectively by the workers. Just like the transition from feudalism to capitalism didn't happen overnight, the same will be true for capitalism - socialism and then socialism - communism
You missed the
>Pile of dead commies > marx was wrong
steps.
Asher Russell
The ownership class will simply genocide the working classes, bam, instant communism
