How did Russia defeat the Nazis Sup Forums

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zerg rush

By throwing millions of men into the Nazi meatgrinder and telling them that if they retreated they and their families would be executed.

The Russians didn't defeat the Nazis, winter did.

but arent cold environments le white man zone

Go back to the History Channel.

It was that and a shitload of other factors.

Soviets would have kept fighting if Moscow fell.

Superior genetics of the Eurasian horde

Nazi Germany was an uncoordinated mess controlled by a bunch of krauts that thought incinerating jews came before defending their own fucking country.

Bump

Zerg beats Protoss but not Marines

US industry + infinite oil & amoo & resources + forcing half eurasia into battle at gunpoint

krauts only started a total war when they already lost and the transition would have taken years.

>the general winter meme
Winter was never responsible for beating the Nazis, the only time that winter has ever won a war for the Russians was when the French invaded

By fighting a war.

They didn't, the allies attacked Germany at the same time. All they did was just sending a lot of people to die, if uk/usa etc didn't attacked germany and urss attacked it alone, it would be the same thing that happened when the urss attacked finland.
By the way, urss got a lot of help from uk and us, weapons, vehicles, oil, food, etc.

And Swedes.

Sounds to me like the Germans fucked up.

finns lost the winter war tho

LMAO

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They had the best commander of ww2 Zhukov

>muh Nazi army

Just admit it, russians won fair and square

History channel said Russians did it single handedly the fuck you talking about?

They didn't gain enough land in the treaty to fit a grave for every Russian dead lol.

Allied goods for the cummies, two-front war, lack of supplies

Stalin sufficiently in advance (1936-1938) removed most jews from army and police leadership (so called "Great Purge") because he knew, that they would betray Russians to Nazis...
And so the Russians won.

Hitler got rid of Jews too. So what.

Go back to the American Heroes Channel.

>outnumber enemy
>attack country with the help of many other countries attacking it too at once
>fair and square
ebin

Huge numbers, ruthless command and extreme love and will to fight for your country.

>Just admit it, russians won fair and square
Well, in the end, it doesn't matter how, but that you did.

Was it winter that chances them all the way to Berlin and occupied half the country for 5 decades?

>experience from winter war
>gradually improving tactics and leadership
>better equipment especially in the winter
>huge amount of resources and industry that were far from the front
>having an enormous front that would inevitably overextend any army that wasn't well prepared
>having a manpower advantage that made a war of attrition easy to win
>hitler being a fuckwit who meddled with operations far far more than he should have
>germans, for the most part, treating civilians and prisoners like animals so a huge potential for mass defection was not realized

Also although Russians did the heavy lifting I think saying that only ONE country defeated the Nazi's is very unfair. It was a collective effort and one of the very few events in history where people put aside their differences and meaningless bullshit to fight for a common cause.

> ameriburger history

let me guess, vietnam wasn't a loss either

Russbros STRONK and don't afraid of anything.

Aren't sweds suppose to be used to the winter? Are you saying Russians can outlast you in the cold?

All's fair, etc. etc.

>experience from winter war
>gradually improving tactics and leadership
More like
>purged officers got replaced
>Deep Operation doctrine was relearned from scratch

They didn't. American strategic bombing defeated Germany and killed 7 million Germans. The Russians would have lost and lost bad were it not for America's genocidal carpet bombing of the civilian population.

Death in approximately 5 minutes by freezing.

What is "lack of winter clothing in the Russian winter"

>Was it winter that chances them all the way to Berlin

It was troops without proper winter clothing, no operating supply chain to provide food and supplies, and support being diverted to the west to counter encroaching British and American troops.

They overextended at the absolute worst time of year.

The French sure are good at making anti ship missiles huh?

Hitler was a Jew.

Nice photo. Everything looks so natural and well built during that era when cheap ass plastic chinese shit wasn't mainstream.

>purged officers got replaced
>Deep Operation doctrine was relearned from scratch
bretty much, it just happened sooner because of the winter war.

Because the Nazi tech actually sucked. The people who were making the guns and tanks and other machines of war had no idea what war was like, being generally sheltered rich douchebags who skipped out on the first war. So the Nazis got a bunch of advanced, intricate technology that had too many fucking parts, basically being clocks with a cannon attached rather than actual tanks. Maintanence was a huge issue, and before long it turned the war into a logistical nightmare.

Hilariously enough Ernst "Literally Did Nothing Wrong" Rohm predicted all of this, and wanted Hitler to nationalize German industry for precisely this reason. But that scared the industrialists, so Hitler freezed Rohm out of power to appease them.

Stop watching Hollywood movies, they messing with your head.

>you ask to exchange land near to ex-capital to twice as more in other place
>they refuse
>war commences
>they realizing they will lost a whole country at this rate and ask peace treaty
>you know it will be a major pain in the ass to take over their country and this will probably mean a big war with other European countries when you're not ready for it
>you gain more territory than you asked for in the beginning
>they get nothing
>70+ years later they call it "victory"

Outnumbering them 2 to 1

>implying that what i said was wrong
I didn't watched any ww2 movies other than downfall.

>Because the Nazi tech actually sucked.

It didn't suck so much as being over-engineered and too may development projects running at the same time instead of standardizing and concentrating on production.

EG, the Tiger tank went through engineering changes while still on the production line that caused delays because half finished tanks had to wait for parts to catch up with assembly, and decisions like using roller bearings in the engines instead of plain bearings like American tanks brought up cost, complexity, and reliance on parts.

The Nazis lost because they were incompetent and overextended their supply lines. Stalingrad occurred after the Russian winter

>Mosin Nagants could be dug out of a farm in east germany and fire with very little cleaning

>Stg-44s will jam if they fall on their side

Just take the L, buddy.

What is the name of this meme format?

Of course you didn't. I believe you. After all where you could watching them when you live in the worsts part of favela.

This sounds about right. In the end the US defeated the Axis by just massively over producing them and dumping munitions on Germany awhile they invested in all variety of research till the very end of the war.

There's no arguing against simplicity and volume, and that's part of the failure of the German munitions manufacturing. Too much specialized equipment was needed, and once factories started to get bombed, retooling took too long. Simpler designs with faster manufacturing techniques would have been a huge boost.

>Because the Nazi tech actually sucked
All their armored vehicles had crazy efficiency and kill count, and let's not even talk about the u-boat

>Maintanence was a huge issue, and before long it turned the war into a logistical nightmare
If anything Germany had it good on maintenance, a fuckload of russian tanks broke down before even seeing a fight

German were good, but they didnt focus on what is good AND win the war, aka planes, arty and navy, tanks are overrated

I've stayed away from this board for a while but now I'm back and I keep seeing threads like this one, where everyone keeps saying how losers the Nazis actually were and so on. I mean, you're exactly like /his/ now. It really looks like the old values were replaced here.

Of course no one's obliged to be an irrational naziboo but there's a rampant dislike towards National Socialists here now. We might have a completely different Sup Forums in 2017...

nice ad hominem cyka bylat
go rush b

>All their armored vehicles had crazy efficiency and kill count

Maybe in the beginning when everyone else was reusing old WWI tanks, but stuff like the T-34 very easily managed to outdo the stuff Germany was putting out.

>let's not even talk about the u-boat

You're right, the naval conflict with Russia was essentially non-existent, it was a land war, and this thread is about Russia.

I predict that by the end of 2017 Nazbol will be huge on Sup Forums

This is the only actual answer

>How did Russia defeat the Nazis Sup Forums

no paved roads
cold winter
nazis are idiots and needed an army twice the size to win.

>Germany
Highly engineered designs that had higher parts founts and needed more complicated manufacturing. Once factories started to go boom, they didn't revert to simpler designs. The old Hogan's Heroes jokes about ball bearing factories was pretty true

>America
Established the National Bureau of Standards to oversee war manufacturing. Ensured that parts from one factory were interchangeable with all other manufacturers. Had solid machining, but kept designs simpler and concentrated on volume. Had the advantage of not getting bombed.

>Russia
Depended on sheer numbers to overwhelm. The Russian tanks were pure shit, but there were just so damn many of them. Same with the rifles. Simple design, fuck it if the ammo was corrosive, didn't wast time to make things pretty. Fit was workable, finish was however it came out of the factory. Advantage that most factories were too far east for German bombers, but minimal rail lines operating to the west.

They defeated Germany because Germany had no industry left with which to wage war thanks to the endless American and British bombing campaigns.
It's glossed over by every side, even America because it's far more valiant seeming to praise the foot soldiers who landed at Normandy but the fact is we only landed because the Americans and British knew Russia wouldn't stop at Germany, they would have taken the entire continent if they could have after we ruined the German's ability to wage war.

>Maybe in the beginning when everyone else was reusing old WWI tanks, but stuff like the T-34 very easily managed to outdo the stuff Germany was putting out.
Even in the end when the russians had complete domination, they were still getting heavily outperformed

The truth is pretty boring to be honest, Russia had a 2 to 1 advantage, germany tried their hardest to do something about it, and couldnt

Great photo i don't think you could get any more 1950's than that

>The Russian tanks were pure shit,
Explain why the Germans were taking back by the T-34 and KV-1

>National Socialists
The actual national socialists got purged in the Night of the Long Knives.

Dead Russians.

I'm very vocal about how Rohm did nothing wrong. You'd be surprised how mad some self-proclaimed NatSocs get at the insinuation.

Because Germany didn't expect the sheer numbers of Russian tanks. The Russians did have a good gun on it, but if the tank breaks down every 10 miles, it's pretty useless.

Germany designed it's tanks to last for several thousand miles, the Americans designed them to last for several hundred, the Russians designed them to last until they got hit with a shell, and then just have the 5 behind him shoot at wherever that shell came from.

sounds like the Germans fucked up.

>fanboys of the austrian congenital liar that ruined Europe
>ever being sufferable
BASH

THE

FASH

Russian Roads, just hear the song

sounds like the Germans fucked up..

Sounds like the Germans fucked up...

sounds like the Germans fucked up....

sounds like the Germans fucked up.....

Russia had a much bigger army, much more industry, unlimited supplies from the USA and better tech.

The fact that so many Russians dies shows how shitty Russians are in combat.

sounds like the Germans fucked up.....

explain this, annon

they sent wave after wave of their own men at them

>Germany designed it's tanks to last for several thousand miles,
They were plagued with mechanical failures. The tiger 2 being a prime example

sounds like the Germans fucked up......

Just like Napoleon the Nazis ignored the warning at Dnieper.

sounds like the Germans fucked up.......

Yeah, they kinda did. Extended too far, too fast and too soon. If the concentrated their manufacturing before they hit the road and had bigger stockpiles, things may have ended differently. They also didn't have set goals for their expansion other than "further".

Should have kept out of Africa, limited their expansion east, and concentrated on Europe.

shut up please thanks

hes not wrong

sounds like the Germans fucked up..........

Psst. Russians coordinated the development of T-34 with Americans, who suggested refinements and improvements, which got quickly implemented.

At the Russia had 1000 T-34's, Germany had neither known about the development, or had anything on the field that could actually touch it. :^)

>How did Russia defeat the Nazis Sup Forums
by outnumbering the Germans untill they copied they're warfare tactics

>american education

sounds like the Germans fucked up..........

They had the power of the eternal Jew on their side.

sounds like the Germans fucked up.

russia had millions more fighting age men, a few great generals and an excellent and effective sniper doctrine. they also had a lot of help from the usa.

Hitler was high out of his mind from his kike doctor. Judgement impaired

sounds like the Germans fucked up............

>Le zerg and winter meme

I want these memes to end. Germany had more men than the Soviets and winter completely neglects the fact that SOVIETS WON

sounds like the Germans fucked up..............