I revealed my power level when discussing shit on Christmas. My relatives kept asking my opinion so I calmly said it like it was and they got mad (aids skrillex tier liberals).
I'm not sperging political shit on anybody, but if someone asks my opinion, I will be clear and true about it. It's pretty fucked up that they were insulting me and so on, only because I said that regular nuclear family is more likely to raise healthy-minded kids than single mothers for example.
pic related, it's me listening to buttmad passive-aggressive insults and mental gymnastics.
Do you fake/sugarcoat your opinions when talking to certain people, or do you just not discuss any "hot" topics with your close ones?
Or was I wrong about it, is the basic nuclear family an ideal environment for your offspring? My instincts and logic based on basic psychology tells me it's obvious.
Luis Fisher
>only because I said that regular nuclear family is more likely to raise healthy-minded kids than single mothers for example.
Why would this insult anyone? Everyone knows it's true.
Lincoln Carter
islam is the religion of the most merciful and powerful, allah, and muhammed (pbuh) is his final messanger
David Hernandez
Well, my gay cousin showed me some article which said that some group of people had analyzed a fuckton of studies about this issue coming to a conclusion that it doesn't matter what kind of parents and parenting roles they had.
I said that there isn't much logic with this conclusion based on my knowledge of the topic, and that it is not good to blindly trust some people's subjective analysis of some unknown studies. It is a classical, appeal to authority -false argument.
Parker Garcia
Feel bad for you, Genghis Khan. In my case I successfully dropped the redpill and even my grandmother started to ask more and more questions with an amused face. I explained questions about Brazilian internal politics and the global ones. Im feeling great.
Camden Davis
I'm pretty sure my grandparents and parents both agree with me on this, but some other relatives are super against these kind of views, they are basically ready to beat me because of it, I think it's insane.
Ayden Edwards
I'm slowly redpilling my mom. It probably helps that she considers me one of the smartest people in the world and will bend to pretty much any opinion I hold.
Hunter Jones
I know that the best way to redpill people is the subtle, funnyish way of doing it. Making jokes pointing out logical fallacies etc. But how the hell are you containing your power level when they straight up ask you about it craving for a debate?
Anthony Hill
bump
Jayden Perez
Sup Forums destroys family ties. It's common knowledge. Welcome newfag.
Jonathan King
You've got to look at it from their context, they grew up without the internet and the counter arguments. They got their sources from agreed upon textbooks, books or the (((media))) and you are probably the most entertainment they've had all year. Some people just love to make a drama out of things and they're simply not used to their narrative been questioned.
Isaac Richardson
fuck them but you can also let them stew in their ignorance
Carson Thompson
>slowly opening my extreme left wing MSNBC watching Obama loving grandmother >move away for work >three months later hippy aunt and uncle have driven her full commie
At least my redneck brother will hold the line while im away, God speed and MAGA be with you today while the commie side attacks you for the MAGA hat I got you for christmas.
>tfw your mom hates Trump and for some reason just assumes you feel the same way >makes constant passive-aggressive jabs at him like liberals do >last night claimed he "bought" the presidency >have to bite my tongue, just smile and nod I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE
John Cruz
No one challenges my arguments anymore, sadly. Last year I literally said, "I think Hitler had some good ideas" when Jerry Springer came on TV and the only response was a grin from my cousin and a giggle from an unrelated girl.
It used to be fun just to ruffle feathers like that but now it's so mainstream that people aren't really shocked by it.
Daniel Gutierrez
it was almost the same with my family and relatives but they have come around now and understand what is going on. just last month i called out a colleague who is a professed christian as a lucifarian because he wouldnt stop trying to judge me and his own brother for not agreeing with oppressive state policy and had him listen for 30 minutes straight of me calling him a lucifarian satan worshiping cuck
Ryder Stewart
If you wanted to say something to her you should have gotten on her about constantly talking about politics at Christmas.
Wyatt Ortiz
>having a family of liberals
Top cuck. Not our families are bluepilled.
Benjamin Hall
I drop truth bombs all the time Just wait for the right time You have to tell a story or show facts first Than u drop the bombs If ur familiy is allready that retarded to sperg out on a valid fact, just ignore them Or if ur good with words make then look stupid or nake them rage and laugh
Adam Wood
I avoid discussions like this. I guess that makes me a coward who won't stand up for his opinions, but I just don't think it is worth complicating an okay non political relationship. My sister is together with an old style communist, and I never try to engage them in anything political. At the same time I got good friends that will start talking with each other and say stuff like "oh yea he is a (not a socialist) you know, what a stupid idiot" about some third party, and I will just mind my own business and pretend like nothing. Honestly the only ones I feel comfortable being myself with is my parents.
Caleb Richardson
Yeah goyim alienate yourself from your families because of made up issues like gender politics. It will surely show us in the long run.
William Allen
it IS obvious, as well as supported by statistical evidence, which i'm sure they tried to change and doctor and fake but really couldn't into the end.
your relatives browbeating you for saying that things should be normal and healthy simply have a mental illness. what more is there to say, they have become dangerous in some ways, like they have a zombie virus.
Isaiah Russell
No, you are correct user. I tell my family and friends the same. Some people can't hand the truth because they are in so deep. But most my family is already redpilled so they agree.
If we are to overcome these challenges then the truth must be said how it is.
David Young
Reminder that Sup Forums is a Jewish board
Aiden Evans
It's not easy. My mom basically refuses to listen as soon as she dislikes what is being said. You have to use tact.
I'm not aggressive with what I tell my family and occasionally friends, but I am firm. The trick is to be better informed than the people you are talking to. For instance, with Islam ask them why if its a religion of peace was it founded upon violent conquest and its central figure a warlord?
You can't come off like a hateful bastard if you want to change minds. A point I always bring up is that individuals frequently deviate from norms, but that cultural programming creates behavioral trends that affect change at scale and that ineffectual cultural values cause people to behave destructively without knowing or intending to.
Remember that left-wing thought is centered around slave morality, kindness and empathy- if you want to reach these people you have to be able to embody these principles while making a case for the necessity of the strength-based thinking underlying conservative thought.
Jason Green
Loyalty to God then kin then country. Keep your opinions to yourself if it's the price of staying close to those who share your blood.
It's a pity, but kin above all.
Bentley Bennett
Entire family completely pro trump, my grandmother is convinced that he was sent by god to fix the earth.
Nicholas Martinez
>only because I said that regular nuclear family is more likely to raise healthy-minded kids than single mothers for example.
There are numerous statistics that back this up, if they bring this up I again I encourage you to do your research.
Never debate with someone unless you can back up your arguments right then and there. They will never search for reasons to change their opinions themselves.
Landon Sullivan
It's the same, I wont really say anything unless asked. But refuse to hide what I believe in.
Zionist Jews are attempting to control the world through national banks and corporations.
Aiden Baker
No one asks my opinion, but I wouldn't sugarcoat it.
They gonna drag you off to Sweden for cuck training.
Nathaniel Baker
I tend to avoid politics completely with family that I know get upset easily.
If they really push it, I'll tow them along as far as they can handle it.
Hunter Jones
>allah>tribe
dirtnig hierarchies are worst hierarchies
Carter Clark
Tell them like it is, then remind them the day of the rope will show no mercy to the threat within
Xavier Torres
>(jokingly) user I heard that you want to hang the national flag in your room. what are you a nationalist? yes >but do you know what these people are user? they are hooligans who start fights at footbal matches and are criminals >I went through that stage too i`m not like them, these people are degenerate pseudo patriots >so why are you a nationalist? these people only hate. what do you hate? the migrants. they are destroying europe and must not be allowed to enter. >now it`s not the time to spread such hate user we must help these people.. >aunt intervenes >bullshit, now is the time to be strong.. >whole family starts arguing >eventually it stops and everyone goes out for a smoke
half my family are libtards and the other half are patriots. this happens every christmas
Anthony Parker
>mfw everyone around the table Christmas Eve dinner last night joking about Donald Trump calling him a racist bigot and saying he's dumb and sexist >because they heard it on CBC >they heard on CBC Steve Bannon is involved with the KKK and Breitbart is fake news
Honestly I just want to eat some fucking turkey I don't want to even start on wading into that shitheap with everyone. I've already redpill lectured my dear mother on this propaganda but I cannot sit at someone's elses table and just forcibly shove redpills down their throat and wash it back with gravy.
Why the fuck do people want to talk about this shit at Holiday dinner? Is it just because it's an easy target and reference they can all go "Haha look at how intelligent and informed we all are!" about? As they spout literal lies and nonsense they were fed by our state sponsored propaganda outlet? Do they just presume everyone at the table agrees with their dumb shit? God damn it's uncomfortable holding back, "Trump never said that," "Or that" "Or that" "Or that" "Or that" infinitely.
Caleb Powell
if you can't articulate what you believe and just go REEEE BLACK CRIME STATISTICS REEEE MUSLIMS GO HOME then you'll look a twat
Cameron Long
Wait so you mean certain people are predispositioned to turn out a certain regardless of social status and parental guidance?
>but muh niggers are a victim of the hood How dare you break the leftist narrative
Nolan Morales
you are supposed to agree and amplify >yup steve bannon is in the KKK and I am gonna tell him you are a race traitor and he will kill you
Levi Rivera
No, I don't fake opinions, but I know how to carry a civil argument and enter one without aggression.
For instance, I could point out that you're clearly new as fuck and have never even heard of a power level.
But that would accomplish nothing, so I'll just say "Hide your power level", or at least choose your battles. I'm not about to argue the merits of the internet with some Amish elders, anymore than I would expect a civil political discussion on a public college campus
Cooper Rogers
Show them dinesh d'souza shit or edicate on real history of the democratic party.
Anthony Watson
>I'm not about to argue the merits of the internet with some Amish elders
Depends on the person, you'd be surprised.
Some people can't argue without anger though, that's more important than their views.
Tyler Roberts
How is it his fault that his family is bluepilled? You also laugh about people who were born with deformities and then tell them "it's your fault bro lmao" ? That's just edge-overlord tier.
Christian Thomas
the statistics and research and evidence and proof don't fucking matter.
Lincoln Collins
>mfw my family is Sup Forums incarnate and my normie brother in law who's visited for the first time looks like he's stumbled into a nazi rally
Levi Nguyen
I'm attempting to redpill my family. I think it's working somewhat. They already know that leftists and democrats are full of shit, at least.
Matthew Lewis
Same, my cousin visited and was turned into a nazi within the week
Robert Cox
It's pretty damn funny how my family praises me for successfully managing 450,000 dollar project at a petrol plant I started at barely under a year ago saying I'm the genius golden boy of the family and then goes to calling me an ignorant fool once we start getting political. My based grandma pointed out their two-faced ways and threatened to kick all of them out pointing out that me and my gf are quite well-mannered guests. I'm going to shed so many tears when the greatest generation dies off completely.
Levi Allen
I revealed my power level last night too. Basically, said the perfect society was Nazi Germany in the 30s or America in the 50s and 60s.
Said that all minorities are lesser people and should recognize that their place is in service to higher races. I have a black relative due to a coal burning cousin that i hate.
Im not allowed at family gatherings anymore.
Wyatt Cooper
Could leftism be a result of two major world wars where all the people with healthy amygdala's went to fight and died leaving more people who process fear differently behind?
Kevin Rodriguez
My family was redpilled before I was
James Wright
>I have a black relative
must hurt to say that out loud :^)
Parker Long
Many of my family members came here illegally from Mexico, I voted for Trump. I won't bring up Politics to anybody but they know better than to ask me. As much as I love my family, and I do, I had to grow up around illegal Mexicans, many of which are huge welfare sapping ingrates so I voted for the wall. Fuck, Trump had my vote as soon as he said he wanted to build a wall way back, glad he won.
I'm still invited to all the events with my family and we still love each other, they're not happy about Trump but that doesn't change our blood relation, blood is blood. I don't know how we can still get along as family even though I voted for someone who wants to deport the ones who are still here illegally yet some White people will disown a family member because they voted 3rd party or for the opposite party their family has been voting for generations for?
Angel Adams
It does. Hes not blood related though thank god.
Isaac Young
Thank god my dad is relatively red pilled. The only problem is his insane consipracy theoreys. Everyone else doesnt join in the convo because they just dont know politics. I would have hernia if i had to put up with bluepills. Its true. The hivemind, if people share the same opinion they feel they are in good company regardless of if they are completely wrong.
Oliver Cox
did they make little mongrels already?
Nicholas Walker
Any children he sires will be.
Julian Bailey
they're too far gone
Daniel Jones
Yes. No. My cousins adopted.
Eli Allen
That's why I went yesterday early to bed, to avoid arguing with my family
Anthony Butler
lel
James Rivera
Then that's not really your cousin, now is it?
Ian Reyes
>tfw I'm labeled the crazy conspiracy theorist in my family because I was skeptical about the media's portrayal of the Syrian Civil War Literally every time I say something about ANYTHING it's a conspiracy. and it got 10 times worse when they asked me if I thought climate change was real and I said >I don't know enough about the subject I didn't even go to the family Christmas party today because of how over the top their shit is. It's just not worth the agony for some good cooked food and an amazon gift card
Angel Fisher
>Dog whining yesterday >Mom looks at her and goes "you're starting to sound like a liberal"
I love my family
Blake Reed
If muslims didn't bow to the most radical and violent muslim in the room, your comment would make sense.
Logan Davis
Is he "reptilians are controlling the jews are controlling the world" tier?
Camden Martin
i don't care about my reputation but generally people respect the frankness of how i say things.
Sebastian Parker
I just say it like it is and back myself up with logic and facts.
Andrew Taylor
I revealed my power level last night by getting my shirt off and flexing my muscles. Grandma was looking at me funny so I said "come at me!"
Hunter Gray
I just pretend like im a liberal who is trying to understand my opposition, you know wolf in sheeps clothing.
Christopher Long
Were they dicks about it? How are they related to you?
Grayson Flores
I use a lot of humor when I talk about my opinions but I feel like I can better have actual political discussion with my coworkers than my family.
Which is weird as fuck because most of my coworkers are arab.
Ayden Harris
My family has same views than me, so no problems there.
Jeremiah Barnes
>90% of family are rightwing >Dad wants to glass the juice
feels good
Brandon Sanchez
>nyc suburb >christmas dinner with dad's extended family >passing around dishes potluck style >brother and his latinx girlfriend sitting across from me >she brings fucking guacamole >whatever, no big deal >childless planet of an aunt compliments dip >bro's gf replies "well, it may be the last year it's legal to have in this country" >somber chuckles all around >my autism starts to twitch >english major cousin jumps in >"don't take it personally. trump supporters will ban anything they can't spell." >chuckling turns into laughter >trying awkwardly to smile >aunt comes back in >"it's why all they eat is hotdogs." >parents continue laughing, look at me >"are you alright user?" >"actually if anyone can't spell it's probably the mexicans. they have iqs that average around 90 and they're in this country by the tens of millions." >silence >brother's gf starts crying and excuses herself to guest room >oh shit.jpg >"user if you don't apologize and get her to come back you can leave the table for the night" >run to the back room >starting to sweat >open the door >get on the floor >everybody walk the dinosaur
Hudson Lopez
Wait, when you say national flag do you mean the flag of your country? Why the fuck does that make you a nationalist? Did they blame you for the argument?
Daniel Adams
Holy shit. I don't know how you lasted through that?
Evan Wilson
The thing people neglect to realize is that it's not the person with a controversial opinion fucking the relationship up, it's the person who has to actually degrade it into a literal feud and dispute. Anyone can express an opinion I don't like and we can discuss it, or agree to disagree. The brainwashed hippies that beg to argue for not conforming to their party line are the problem.
Jaxon Allen
Your grandma sounds pretty cool.
Wyatt Wilson
To avoid any of this stuff I just proclaim loudly and clearly "shoot em all and let god sort em out". Gets a chuckle and me left alone the rest of the night.
Angel Martinez
kek
Thomas Peterson
its been a while since i walked the dinosaur, thank you
Leo Barnes
lel
Nathaniel White
Slave mentality can be applied to Christianity as a whole as well, did nietzsche redpill u son?
Zachary Hughes
>mfw my dad is a hard right-winger, conservative, traditionalist with a hint of Iron Guard in him >mfw my mum comes from a traditionally right-wing family, with most of the members being locked down during the communist rule for sympathizing or openly supporting the Iron Guard rule during WW2
My Christmas was basically the same as the rest. Mum making "all niggers are violent" jokes then shifting the paradigm to the asians, calling them subhuman and monsters; Dad talking with me about different ideologies and how to change the country from within; all of the family telling my little brother to choose a white woman to marry, in the future, as to hold the bloodline pure - going as far as comparing racemixed babies to mutts.
Merry Christmas, user!
Oliver Harris
>be me >my female cousin starts flicking through photos showing them off >oh look here is me kissing a girl >here is another one she said >heard my auntie clear her throat >uncle looks down >i speak >THAT IS ABSOLUTE DEGENERACY! what is with it with kids these days pretending to be gay as if its fashionable? 80s perms and shoulder pads was bad enough and cod pieces in the ye olde days was taking the piss but pretending to be gay for likes on facebook? kids these days should be gassed >cousin goes quiet >her parents agreed with me >ate dinner and they passed me a present,the new metallica album
went better than expected.
Parker Sanders
>nuclear family ideal >not a single tribe in antiquity selected to adopt it >all based on communities and extended families >this despite massive darwinian pressures (constant warfare and raiding plus harsh environments) >ideal
Your ideal family arose in a situation where natural selection was relaxed same as fat asses and female leaders. Your ideal family is only ideal because it is ideal for promoting debt slavery and consumption because it disempowers the middle class by forcing them to pay far more for food&shelter than they would in a community.
Anthony King
I'm ok with this
Dominic Rogers
Did she cry?
Nathan Thompson
>tfw I'm pretty much the only conservative in the family >tfw when I share an opinion the differs from theirs they say I'm just looking for attention I hate liberals so god damn much
Nathaniel Adams
What kind of insults?
Hunter Wilson
>opinion
Don't give opinions, give facts, leaving them arguing with their opinions.
Carter Foster
Luckily my family is cool and loves Trump and I can speak my mind for the most part. Haven't talked about the 6 gorillian yet but the red pill is prepped and ready to deliver.
Ian Russell
>tfw both my big brother and little brother hate niggers >tfw we all rant about niggers and mudslimes to my mother >tfw she admits they are worse but doesnt really hate them >tfw gf hates nigger above all and starting to get redpilled on hitler and jews Life is good if you dont live in Fagsinki or Tampere or other such shithole.
Jackson Brooks
Good on ya, Fingolbro. You did well.
As long as you arent offering up your opinions unsolicited in some childish attempt to "redpill the normies" you are good. Because you were asked your opinion and you offered it you did everything right. Sorry about your family being retarded m8, dont fret.
Heres an example of being an autistic sperg
Asher Bell
Kek
Levi Powell
Look brah, we can't do that type of communist/collectivist "it takes a village to raise a child" thing anymore. People pick up and go somewhere else overnight, and we can't just pretend like the new neighbor has been our lifelong friend and trust them with sharing food, or our cars, nevermind our children.
If you have a solution I'm sure everyone would like to benefit from it, but personally I don't. That doesn't mean to just forfeit your kids to the state or singleparenthood, however. I'm not wagering all or nothing.