How did the Russians defeat the Nazis

Continuing from yesterday.

The Lend-Lease policy, formally titled An Act to Promote the Defense of the United
States, was a program under which the United States supplied Free France, the
United Kingdom, the Republic of China, and later the USSR and other Allied nations
with food, oil, and materiel between 1941 and August 1945. This included warships
and warplanes, along with other weaponry. It was signed into law on March 11,
1941 and ended in September 1945. A total of $50.1 billion (equivalent to $659
billion today, roughly the current, yearly US military expenses) worth of supplies
was shipped, or 17% of the total war expenditures of the U.S. In all, $31.4 billion
went to Britain, $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union, $3.2 billion to France, $1.6 billion
to China, and the remaining $2.6 billion to the other Allies.
Lend-Lease would help the British and Allied forces win the battles of future years;
the help it gave in the battles of 1941 was trivial. In 19431944, about a quarter
of all British munitions came through Lend-Lease. Aircraft (in particular transport
aircraft) comprised about a quarter of the shipments to Britain, followed by food,
land vehicles and ships. Even after the United States forces in Europe and the Pacic
began to reach full strength in 19431944, Lend-Lease continued. Most remaining
allies were largely self-sucient in front line equipment (such as tanks and ghter
aircraft) by this stage, but Lend-Lease provided a useful supplement in this category
even so, and Lend-Lease logistical supplies (including motor vehicles and railroad
equipment) were of enormous assistance. Furthermore, the logistical support of the
Soviet military was provided by hundreds of thousands of U.S.-made trucks. Indeed,
by 1945, nearly a third of the truck strength of the Red Army was U.S.-built.

According to the Russian historian Boris Vadimovich Sokolov, Lend-Lease played a crucial role in winning the war:
On the whole the following conclusion can be drawn: that without these Western
shipments under Lend-Lease the Soviet Union not only would not have been able
to win the Great Patriotic War, it would not have been able even to oppose the
German invaders, since it could not itself produce sucient quantities of arms and
military equipment or adequate supplies of fuel and ammunition. The Soviet authorities
were well aware of this dependency on Lend-Lease. Thus, Stalin told Harry
Hopkins [FDR's emissary to Moscow in July 1941] that the U.S.S.R. could not match
Germany's might as an occupier of Europe and its resources.
Nikita Khrushchev, having served as a military commissar and intermediary between
Stalin and his generals during the war, addressed directly the signicance of Lendlease
aid in his memoirs:

I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on whether the
Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived
the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell
about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were discussing
freely among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped
us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to ght Nazi Germany one on
one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have
lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject ocially, and I don't think Stalin
left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in
conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never
made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but when we were
engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over international questions of
the past and present, and when we would return to the subject of the path we had
traveled during the war, that is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was
fully in agreement with him, and today I am even more so.

Delivery was via the Arctic Convoys, the Persian Corridor, and the Pacic Route.
The Arctic route was the shortest and most direct route for lend-lease aid to the
USSR, though it was also the most dangerous. Some 3,964,000 tons of goods were
shipped by the Arctic route; 7% was lost, while 93% arrived safely. This constituted
some 23% of the total aid to the USSR during the war.
The Persian Corridor was the longest route, and was not fully operational until
mid-1942. Thereafter it saw the passage of 4,160,000 tons of goods, 27% of the
total. The Pacic Route opened in August 1941, but was aected by the start of
hostilities between Japan and the US; after December 1941, only Soviet ships could
be used, and, as Japan and the USSR observed a strict neutrality towards each other, only non-military goods could be transported. Nevertheless, some 8,244,000 tons of
goods went by this route, 50% of the total. In total, the U.S. deliveries through
Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks;
12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386 of which were M3 Lees
and 4,102 M4 Shermans); 11,400 aircraft (4,719 of which were Bell P-39 Airacobras)
and 1.75 million tons of food. Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment,
vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere
to the USSR, 94% coming from the US. For comparison, a total of 22 million tons
landed in Europe to supply American forces from January 1942 to May 1945. It has
been estimated that American deliveries to the USSR through the Persian Corridor
alone were sucient, by US Army standards, to maintain sixty combat divisions in
the line.

Red army had already pushed back the Wehrmacht from Moscow before lend lease started. Lend lease ended the war faster but the USSR would have won without it. The Wehrmacht was gutted after the first winter

The United States gave to the Soviet Union from October 1, 1941 to May 31, 1945
the following: 427,284 trucks, 13,303 combat vehicles, 35,170 motorcycles, 2,328
ordnance service vehicles, 2,670,371 tons of petroleum products (gasoline and oil) or
57.8 percent of the High-octane aviation fuel, 4,478,116 tons of foodstus (canned
meats, sugar, our, salt, etc.), 1,911 steam locomotives, 66 Diesel locomotives, 9,920
at cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars. Provided
ordnance goods (ammunition, artillery shells, mines, assorted explosives) amounted
to 53 percent of total domestic production. One item typical of many was a tire plant
that was lifted bodily from the Ford Company's River Rouge Plant and transferred
to the USSR. The 1947 money value of the supplies and services amounted to about
eleven billion dollars.

In June 1941, within weeks of the German invasion of the USSR, the rst British
aid convoy set o along the dangerous Arctic sea routes to Murmansk, arriving in
September. It was carrying 40 Hawker Hurricanes along with 550 mechanics and
pilots of No. 151 Wing to provide immediate air defence of the port and train
Soviet pilots. After escorting Soviet bombers and scoring 14 kills for one loss, and
completing the training of pilots and mechanics, No 151 Wing left in November,
their mission complete. The convoy was the rst of many convoys to Murmansk
and Archangelsk in what became known as the Arctic convoys, the returning ships
carried the gold that the USSR was using to pay the US. By the end of 1941, early
shipments of Matilda, Valentine, and Tetrarch tanks represented only 6.5% of total
Soviet tank strength, but over 25% of medium and heavy tanks in service with the
Red Army. First seeing action with the 138 Independent Tank Battalion in the Volga
Reservoir on 20 November 1941, Lend-Lease tanks constituted between 30 and 40%
of heavy and medium tank strength before Moscow at the beginning of December
1941.

>Red army had already pushed back the Wehrmacht from Moscow before lend lease started.

Wrong. Lend lease supported military was already waiting in moscow.

Signicant numbers of British Churchill, Matilda and Valentine tanks were shipped
to the USSR along with the US M3 Lee after it became obsolete on the African
Front, ceasing production in December 1942 and withdrawn from British service in
May 1943. The Churchills, supplied by the arctic convoys, saw action in the Siege
of Leningrad and the Battle of Kursk, while tanks shipped by the Persian route
supplied the Caucasian Front. Between June 1941 and May 1945, Britain delivered
to the USSR: 3,000+ Hurricanes, 4,000+ other aircraft, 27 naval vessels, 5,218 tanks,
5,000+ anti-tank guns, 4,020 ambulances and trucks, 323 machinery trucks, 2,560
Universal Carriers, 1,721 motorcycles, ¿1.15bn worth of aircraft engines, 600 radar
and sonar sets, Hundreds of naval guns, 15 million pairs of boots.
In total 4 million tonnes of war materials including food and medical supplies were
delivered. The munitions totaled ¿308m (not including naval munitions supplied),
the food and raw materials totaled ¿120m in 1946 index. In accordance with the
Anglo-Soviet Military Supplies Agreement of 27 June 1942, military aid sent from
Britain to the Soviet Union during the war was entirely free of charge.[
Especially all support vehicles (trucks, trains, etc.) the USSR received were of great
importance since the USSR lost most of these, like most of their military, in the rst
few month's of Operation Barbarossa. Looking through Soviet diaries, one nds that
the soldiers were extremely greatfull for the US support, especially food. This shows
that the Allies won the Second World War only through a team eort.

RIDF BTFO!

And lets not forget the allied bombing campaign.

From the Russian Historian Oleg Budnitskiy we also learn:
The importance of economic cooperation with the U.S., UK and Canada cannot be
overestimated. According to the dollar rate of 2003, the ination-adjusted value of these supplies amounted to $130 billion. These supplies were critical in some
key areas. For example, in the beginning of 1942, Western tanks fully replenished
Soviet losses, and exceeded them by three times. About 15 percent of the aircraft
used by Soviet air forces were supplied by Allies, including the Airacobra ghter and
Boston bomber. The Allies supplied 15,000 state-of-the-art machines at that time;
for example, famous Soviet ace Alexander Pokryshkin ew Airacobra, as did the rest
of his squadron. He shot down 59 enemy aircraft, and 48 of them were thanks to
American military equipment.
One of the main areas of cooperation was aviation fuel. The USSR could not produce
gasoline with high octane. However, it was this fuel that was used by the
equipment supplied by the Allies. In addition, the Achilles heel of the Soviet Army
was communication and transport. The Soviet industry simply could not meet the
demand either in number or in quality. For example, the army lost 58 percent of its
vehicles in 1941 alone. To recover these losses, the Allies supplied more than 400,000
vehicles, mainly trucks, to the USSR. During the occupation, the German concern
Daimler Benz set up a vehicle assembly line at a factory in Minsk (now the capital
of Belarus). After the liberation of the city, the assembly of American vehicles under
Lend-Lease was organized there. It was not only supplies of nished products, but
also raw materials that were extremely important metals, chemicals and products,
which were either not produced in the USSR or lost to the enemy. For example, more
than half of Soviet aircraft were produced using aluminum supplied by the Allies.

It is impossible to imagine how the Soviet economy would have functioned without
these supplies. For example, the telephone cable provided by the Allies could wrap
the Earth at the equator. The Allies' aid was also critical in the reconstruction of
production in the liberated regions of the country, including the role of seeds for the
resumption of agriculture. Specic products were also supplied; the Allies delivered
610,000 tons of sugar to the USSR, whereas the USSR itself produced little more
than 1.46 million tons.

How important was the Western Front for the war eort? Some considerations:
Well over half the Luftwae was engaged in the west from 1942-5, and 75% of German
aircraft casualties were against the western Allies. Each U-boat cost 5,000,000 Marks
to build. The Germans built over 1,000. A Panther tank cost 117,000 Marks, That
means about 40,000 tanks were not built so that the Germans could wage the War
of the Atlantic. Think 40,000 panthers might have made a dierence against an
unallied Russia in the East?
Each V2 rocket cost, in labor and material, the same as 3.5 ghter planes. The
Germans launched over 3,000 V2's, the equivalent of 10500 ghter planes which could have been used in the east. The British and Americans deployed over 20,000
heavy bombers against the Germans, causing great destruction. What would have
happened if Rommel's Africa Corps and the 30+ German divisions in France would
have been in the don bend in fall 1942 protecting Stalingrad instead of waiting
for British and American divisions to land? What would have happened if the
400,000 troops stationed in Norway could have helped Army Group North capture
Leningrad? What would have happened if, in 1944, the German armies trying to
hold the divisions ghting in Italy and the Balkans could have been freed to ght
against the Russians in the south? I think it becomes apparent just how important
keeping the Western Front alive was for the Allies.

Britains categorical refusal of any peace oers kept theWestern Front open (of course,
accepting the peace oers would have ended the war), the Soviets poured in from
the East with millions of lives sacriced and all of this was kept running by the US
industrial strength. Just one of these 3 things missing and the war would have taken
a dierent turn.
If the reader is interested to learn more about the Lend-Lease Programm and just
how important it was for the survival of the Soviet Union, lots of information can
be found in the book Russia's Life-Saver: Lend-Lease Aid to the U.S.S.R. in World
War II by Albert L. Weeks.
'The United States is a country of machines. Without the use of these machines
through Lend-Lease, we would lose this war.' - Josef Stalin (1943), quoted in W.
Averell Harriman and Elie Abel, Special Envoy to Churchill and Stalin, 1941-1946,
Random House, N.Y., 1975, p. 277.

Zerg Rush combined with Russian Winter.

human wave rush
germans literally ran out of bullets.
hitler was a retard in terms of military strategy.
the nazi army was stretched too long and the supply lines were cut off.
decide to siege sankt petersburg and starve them /good
decide to enter stalingrad instead of sieging it /bad

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also, being a total idiot, hitler threw the ukrainians under the bus although they welcomed the wehrmacht with open arms.

This is well-known.

The funny part was Stalin's USSR industrialization was basically all about American help. Thousands of American engineers came here and built huge factories using their technologies.

20 years later cold war started

>Thousands of American engineers came here and built huge factories using their technologies.

Not only american. They used the collectivated food to pay for industrialization from the US, France, UK and Germany. Lots came from the US yes, especially Henry Ford.

>How did the Russians defeat the Nazis

Sheer weight of numbers and flexibility combined with the overstretched german supply line and Hitler's unsustainable troop movement policies.

>could've had a united front against communism with hitler and churchill
>they fucking war each other instead and gives half the continent to soviets
fucking jews

Hitler's plan was to cut off the supplies that was going to Stalingrad and to starve them until they would've surrendered (if I am not wrong), but since he, Hitler, got very sick and had to be in bed during this time, his generals decided to ignore his orders and attack it from the front.

That were the plans for moscow, not Stalingrad. Still knowledge rarely seen on Sup Forums.

America defeated the nazis

They fucked up the krauts so hard that they're now hard wired to cuck themselves since the Russians aren't around to do it.

Germans were always cucks

Heck of a shotgun

>american """"""education""""""

kek
not knowing that armaments production in 1944-1945 was 3x that of armaments production before the "bombing campaign"

armaments were moved underground and shit that was blown up, such as railway lines were quickly repaired

Look at that clip, it's machine gun

True but they've gone into overdrive since ww2.

1920s Berlin was know for cheap whores that would sucks a dick for a slice of bread

Seriously, American manufacturing won the war. That is not a joke at all. There are numerous Russian historians that have said that Lend Lease arms, and more importantly raw materials and heavy equipment, kept the Russians afloat.

Superior menschen. The russians were the real übermenschen and therefore won. Succ it wannabe nazis. You lost, freedom won.

>armaments were moved underground

>nazi war machine was completely produced in secret underground bunkers

You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right? That would also imply they had secret underground concentration camps because these were duely needed for the war effort....

Look at the info I copy pasted. this is not the entire truth. If the soviets would not have gotten your stuff, they would have lost.... but if the communist regime wouldn't have thrown millions of people into the fire, then all of your stuff would have never been used. In addition, keeping the west front open was important.. AND the resistance movement inside Germany fucked up a lot of the Nazi war effort. So you have 4 important things:

>US industrial strength
>Britain keeping western front open
>Russian sacrifice of lives
>Anti-Nazi resistance movement

Take one of these 4 away and the war would have already looked way different in favour of the Nazis.

This. While the nazis were riding donkeys and carting their supplies by horse, the Soviets were riding in brand new Studebaker and GM trucks.

I should have reworded it. You are 100 percent correct that if you take away any one of the four factors listed then it would have been a much different conflict.

>This. While the nazis were riding donkeys and carting their supplies by horse, the Soviets were riding in brand new Studebaker and GM trucks.

I also started laughing when I read the the Nazis started Operation Barbarossa with 750.000 horses. I mean it was a "do or die" situationa anyway, but it takes some serious balls to invade them with fucking horses used as supply lines.

idk what youre talking about, my grandpappy was in the U S INFANTRY and he had one a them shotguns, plus a .45 he killed them japs with

Ah, yes. I remember that now. Thank you for correcting me!