MLG Marxista Leninist General - How can capitalista ever compete? edition

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.html

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Daily reminder we leftists have no friends irl (see pic) and, as friendless loosers come here to beg for some little attention.

please be kind. on the other hand, we will not be kind when the REAL revolution finally arrives.

...but a sex doll won't give you gonorrhea.

But $20 beats $200, just like communism beats capitalism at its own game.

>somehow being proud of the fact that cuba is such a shit hole run into the ground by socialism that people are so desperate, they will sell themselves for the price of a big mac meal.

bravo
>pic related, its (you)

Not when gonorrhea is involved it don't!

No, this is me, the proud multigendered Fidel.

No, no because cuba has the most doctors percapita un the galaxy!!!

If communism is so great, why are there no first world communist countries?

You forget that fascism is the next stage of humanity following degenerate progressive liberalism/socialism/communism.

We're beyond your shit stage.

Greetings, komrades.

No no, se pic related. Communismmm

Greeting herramientas komissar

Remember our training, if they corner us we cry "that was not REAL socialism".

>when you make a comunist thread on Sup Forums and it collapses but it's ok because it wasn't the real commie thread so you make a comunist thread on Sup Forums and it collapses but it's ok because it wasn't the real commie thread so you make a comunist thread on Sup Forums and it collapses but it's ok because it wasn't the real commie thread so you make a comunist thread on Sup Forums and it collapses but it's ok because it wasn't the real commie thread

No, no, those were not REAL communist threads

Get in here comrades!!!

Bumpity bump

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Just have this thread open so you can know their next move. You will get banned for posting on Leftist Politically Correct so be ready.

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We have 15 dollar hookers here.
You know this.

Communism is christianity with no god.

Another jewish doom religion.

When will our god and savior free market capitalism give us therapeutic senitent sexdolls? Jineteras are a one time only deal and I'd prefer to just get a caring mail order bride.

Be ready?

No, dont ban me leftycucks, dont ban me

But they are not educated in medicine or are teachers like te communist cubano whores.

This actually sums up communism real well - from normal human being to disfunctional filth.

That would be communists and socialists usually.
Also I'm sure it is just coincidence, but given the overwhelming majority of victims of communism, it would seem that working class people stand in the way of freedom of working people.

They will ban you on /leftypol/ for any thoughtcrime. Just call everyone a porky, everything a spook, and never think too hard.

Nazis watch out, Bash is finally here

>capitalism isnt a religion
kek

>Bah those fashs, kommrade, bash them hard, like only "the Brit" can

I think the Berlin Wall shows the true merits of Communism. You are not allowed to dissent or leave. Your country is a prison.

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oh, yeah, what do you kapitalizt skum think of the wall of chekoslovakia?

I know Soviet/Russian immigrants and they literally only came here because the welfare payments are bigger.

A whore is used once and then disposed, a sex doll can be reused many times.
This kind of shortsightedness is why you need socialist gibsmedats.

It's very tolerant.

Where did all that extra money come from?

It must not suck not having an argument.
I'd would probably kill myself if I could only speak in memes.

but the doll is not a licensed doctor.
LOL capitalist BTF again

>Where did all that extra money come from?

Nice goal post switch.

[not an argument]

You didn't give one, familia

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ehh, no.

better define to me market socialism vs. REAL market socialism.

The last Soviet famine didn't even kill 50 thousand people and it was because of labor shortages not Marxism-Leninism

of course, it is NEVER because Marxism-Leninism

What do you think market socialism is, exactly?
Also, I'm not market socialist myself, because I find problems with.

No such thing. You described emigrants from outside of Berlin so you weren't interested in discussing the Berlin Wall. A Welfare State depends on abundance. If you say the Russians moved here to leech off of our welfare then where did the abundance come from. Don't pretend to be an honest debater. The left can only win with lies.

do you find problems with market socialism or with REAL market socialism.

pls be more precise.

we get it, you wish you were a fighter, and an alpha male and fit, so you could beat up those american chads that won't let you cross the border. you'll get there one day bud just get off the computer and stop eating garbage for sustenance.

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If you can't answer, you can crawl to leftypol & beg for some help like pic related.

I don't know what you're referring to, because apparently you can only speak in memes.
Sad!

Leftism is about the rejection of reality. Egalitarianism is committed to the idea that people are equal. A cursory glance makes that claim seem spurious. A detail investigation reveals it to be false. If you are a Communist here you can post. If you aren't a Communist of /leftypol/ you will be banned. Why is that? Because under any amount of scrutiny all Leftist ideals and policies are revealed to be unworkable, immoral, and unpopular.

>IQ
Autism level is a spook.

>JQ
Porkies are just porkies. Who cares what ethnicity or faith they observe.

>Communism always collapses
Not real socialism. State capitalism. Vast rightwing conspiracy

>What about human nature
Spook

>Why doesn't everyone become a porky?
pic related

Your ideology is sick. It requires the abnegation of nature and the oppression of man. That's ok though because all contrary ideas are spooks and all other thinkers are porkies.

THEY'RE RETREATING
ATTACK

>Everyone I don't like is from leftypol
cute

n n noo no , look i post anime communist babes, i am alpha, i am communist, the babes love being lectured on the seizing of the means of production!

not an argument

sad!

Go ahead get all of your buddies to come help. Then threaten us with your antifa war stories.

>, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

This is exactly why communism, at best, stagnates advancement. When there's no incentive for innovation, then there's no advancement.

Communism pushes mediocrity as an ideal. It produces only enough to survive, when surplus is needed to grow in any field.

The mirror phase is supposed to end at 18 months, you know?

China did so well under Communism that it kept their GDP stable until the late 1970s.

Who knows what Allende could have done to Chile?

$20 is a lot in cuba
>Wages in Cuba averaged just 494.4 pesos ($18.66) monthly from 2008 to 2015.
average wage in usa... $40,000...
so they're charging the equivalent of $3,333 for a whore. which you can get for 20x cheaper in USA.

>but m-muh Jimmy Dore

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no, not the REAL mirror phase

the REAL mirror phase has never REALLY arrived

that is some capitalist math, aka, lies, CIA funded lies

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>when mom asks where all the Leftists are

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the funny part is the housing crisis was fueled by immigrants who couldn't read the contracts they were signing. bankers love a low IQ populace that don't understand how they're being taken advantage of

i am literally shaking please erase those posts, you need to be nice tu us leftypol/aks

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the beauty of capitalism is you are free to distribute your profits as you see fit. you're free to turn your business into a socialist/communist business.
Would communism allow the same thing for capitalists? Absolutely not!

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

Well I need to be in charge of all that stateless power...

Check, mate.

>Cuba
>Is somehow a socialist dreamworld

Hahahahahaha

But National identity and Autism Level are spooks. Only class struggle is real. Marx is god and Lenin is his prophet on Earth.

Someone is. Remember though a wealthy and privileged Nomenklatura =/= Porkies because Marx.

sounds like Sup Forums

Where did you go /leftypol/? Did you abandon the thread? You can't just ban dissent here so that must make it tough.

>A falseflag creates a commie thread and a bunch of users just post anti-commie maymays to themselves.

but its leftypol.


SAD!

>1: We believe in the rights of every national comrade to land ownership.
>2: This landownership should lead to his liberation and independence from the will of the state or others to survive.
>3: It is illegal to take possession of the natural right of man to have in his will the power to his own survival.
>4: Every national comrade must be trained and armed to defend his will and the collective wills of free men.
>5: Wages shall no longer be on the power the employer has over the employee but be on what the worker produces and his fair share, the employer will have no overwhelming power over the worker to work for an uneven treaty.
>6: We declare our land and peoples to be solely from European stock and no Jews.
>7: We demand the collectivization of interests and wills under a single man who shall lead the commune, his powers does not infringe on the basic power of the citizens, but collectivizes income and interests for national goals and national interest.
>8: We declare the collective interest to serve the goals of the empowerment and uplifting of the people.
>9: We demand the nationalization of all banks and currency creation, currency will be the sole responsibility of the party.
>10: Every mans duty includes fighting and struggling for his family and progeny.
>11: We shall nationalize the housing market to serve national interest rather than profiteering of the peoples misery.
>12: We demand an abolition of rent slavery.
>13: We affirm that these truths were are God given and no man can infringe upon them.

youtube.com/watch?v=JO5-hM6xKt4

>Implying there aren't lonely people everywhere.
Choke on your taco Paco.

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Many such cases!

>The international lefty revolution HAS ALREADY STARTED
Is that what they call losing every branch of American government?

If you go start a thread like this on /leftypol/ where you advocate for Capitalism/Traditionalism/Biology you will be banned in 30 minutes tops.

faggot zapatistas. militarily, they were btfo quite easily.

anyway, socialists betray fellow socialists for the hope of an internet gf, pic related.

You can't rebel against yourself. They needed to lose first. Don't mention the Managerial Revolution. It triggers lefttards.

ehhhh but that was not REAL socialism

>that pic

The Leftists are gone, but they will make a new thread. They are "organizing" as we speak. We are armed only with the truth. They are armed with spooks.

>only retarded cucks want bigger government....communism is cancer.

>Autistic spic shilling for us.
Hey, I'm ok with this.

Its amazing they still can't do anything else than go after the social democratic playbook. Even a retard would notice that these circumstances don't apply (and likely never did)

There isn't even an economic crisis right now, people just don't want fucking kebabs or other shit tier people in western welfare states.

There is empirical evidence that shows that immigration into Europe correlates with growing voter bases for nationalist parties, and that diversity reduces the willingness to contribute into welfare states.

They're too stupid to deal with reality. Their ideology is one that can't fail, it can only be failed. So if you don't like what's happening that means you suck, not the policies.

>confusing red fascism with real communism

shit ozzie, get it together

>implying Trump isn't appealing directly to class struggle and the proletariat
It's not a big leap from Trump to communism. It IS a leap, don't get me wrong, but it's not an inconceivable one. Think about what he's saying: you're being robbed by rich elites, you're being mistreated, nobody is listening to you, the system is rigged against you, you are the real Americans, the working class is under threat, you have been exploited and ignored.

Is Trump a commie? No. But Trump and communism rely on the same disenfranchised working class.