If there are any legitimate holocaust deniers on this board I really want to know what evidence you have...

If there are any legitimate holocaust deniers on this board I really want to know what evidence you have. In middle school a 80 year old woman was brought in by the school and she was a holocaust survivor. She told an hour long in depth story of the events leading up to it, and all the way through to 1945. Her mother was taken away by Nazi guards in a camp and killed.

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I think the 6 million number is outrageous and I don't think the gassing of Jews took place on an industrial scale; I'm inclined to believe its just war propaganda.

Burning that many bodies in that ammount of time is impossible

That one "mass grave" (can't remember the name, sure someone has the image though) had its ground scanned and it showed there had never been any disturbances

The images of the "gas" chambers are highly ridiculous, most have wooden doors for christ's sake

I don't deny the holocaust happened, but I do believe the 6 million number is total bullshit and its probably more in the 500,000 - 1,500,000 range

Was there in 6 million jews in Europe at the time?

Did her story match this one at all?
>pic relevant

My grandfather died during the Holocaust

He fell from his guard tower

>Holocaust denier
Let's get something out of the way first, the so called ''holocaust deniers'' on this board don't actually deny that the holocaust happened, what they do is question the version of the holocaust that was told to us by the media and school history books

It didn't happen. When have I ever lied to you?

If there are any legitimate holocaust deniers on this board I really want to know what evidence you have. In middle school a 80 year old woman was brought in by the school and she was a holocaust survivor. She told an hour long in depth story of the events leading up to it, and all the way through to 1945. Her mother was taken away by Nazi guards in a camp and killed.

Evidence?

Gassing is a fucking retarded way to mass murder people

>they burned all the evidence
Then no crime.

Go watch the greatest story never told. Auschwitz survivors talking about the swimming pool and the dentist and the shekels for the cantina, and writing letters home.

Soap was fake, lampshades were fake, soviets made up a bunch of shit because they're jews and wanted to cover up their own atrocities.

Piles of shoes hair and clothes were from DELOUSING. Typhus was a serious illness by the end of the war.

No evidence of zyklon b residue (delousing gas) in the "gas chambers".

The number of jews in europe actually increased by the end of the war.

Everyone at camp was starving at the end of the war because allies bombed the supply lines.

The holocaust is the only event in history enforced by law.

It keeps going just do a little homework.

It likely happened, the 6 gorillion is definitely a fucking lie though

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I don't remember the source, but there was an newspaper article predating the war by only a few years that said the entire world jewish population was estimated to be 6 million.

>holocaust survivor
if she survived, she wasn't at the holocaust then, was she?

Treblinka. 700,000 buried, unearthed, then burned for 0 reason, despite scientists proving the ground was never touched.

It would take about 60 years to burn the Jews the way we're told.

6million is beyond fake. It's in their holy book, they've been mentioning it since 1885 in newspapers. They were trying to force a religious meme. There is not a shred of holocaust evidence at all. Eyewitnesses are all mostly cheerful tales of the Auschwitz fucking soccer team or movie theatre, with only 5% mentioning nonsensical homocides

Around 9.5 million verified Jewish people in Europe at the time. Roughly 1.4% of the population.

The concentration camps were definetly a thing but the numbers are exagerrated. The 6 million was almost a meme and has been used over 100 years before the holocaust happened in newspapers. The concentration camp of Treblinka for example needed to kill and burn 8000 people per day to reach it's death toll.

i couldnt sleep at 3am last night and decided to google "delousing gas" and all i could find was holocaust related results

does delousing gas uh, actually exist?

concentration camps were work camps and regular prisons.

Jews are all conniving scheming rats. You cant trust a word out of their mouths because all they're after is gold

Basically the only """confirmed""" death camps where the ones found by the soviets, one would have to put your trust in stalin to believe the holocaust.

Why (((gas))) them or burn them when you could starve them to death? Have you heard about death march? Why not kill them mongol style where each soldier would kill 10 jews?

If Hitler did something wrong was exterminating the Jews when there are a few (but optimum) ways of killing.

Would it make a difference when only 400.000 were murdered? It doesnt make a fucking difference now.

Lots of jews were deported or fled before the war even or rounding up jews began

Actually, the 6 million estimate is a conservative figure.

A 2002 Yale study was corroborated in 2010 with further evidence that this estimation was correct.

>how many jews died in the holocaust?
>not enough

Not mention gassing is horribly efficient when there are much cheaper options, such as using a woodchipper.

(((Yale)))

>murdered

They starved to death in the camps when German supply lines were cut off by Allied bombing runs. Now you tell me, smartypants, would you (a) use what's left of rations to feed your dwindling troops, or (b) use it to feed filthy, conniving, conspiring Jews?

Really makes you think.

Pretty sure they would have just done this. Why bother with gas and shit. Why bother feeding anyone. Dig a pit, line em up, put a bullet in em

Reminder that the holocaust is the only historical event protected by law, questioning/investigating it is considered a crime. If you can't see anything suspicious about that I don't what to tell you.

>Yale
The Jews have already brainwashed you

the ivy leagues have been jewed for a long-ass time

Neighbor was a survivor when i lived in Toronto

Teacher brought her every year and she told us how her family was killed

It's real

If you live in France and do research about the holocaust you can end up in prison for 5 years.

Bullets are expensive
Especially when you have to worry about having enough ammo to actually shoot the other people with guns

isn't it illegal to criticize (((them))) in the UK now?

What defines research

>Germans were the best at mechanization, military strategy and logistics
>somehow there are still holocaust survivors walking around

Only in cucked countries.

Doesn't make it any less suspicious.

Holocaust deniers have been proven wrong OVER AND OVER. This shit is a communist meme.
Most of the death camps were in East Germany, as such the communists told stories about how as good communists the East Germans dindu nuffin, and less people were killed due to it.
It is easily possible to burn that many people, as they were basicly skeletons and weren't burned to funeral standards.

Fucking rake yourself

we can denie the holocaust, but we're not allowed to be anti-semitic

> In middle school a 80 year old woman was brought in by the school and she was a holocaust survivor.

If random grandmas are considered ''evidence'' in your book, no, I don't think I have any.
What I have is severe trust issues. I don't believe anyone anymore. Everyone is lying to me to serve whatever fucking agenda is feeding their pocket.

> She told an hour long in depth story of the events leading up to it, and all the way through to 1945.
My grandma is also 80, she can speak for several hours non-stop about things that happened to her. According to my uncle and aunt, over half these things are just imaginary. Probably she doesn't even intend to lie. So to me, they're just half-truths turned into a nice novel.

> Her mother was taken away by Nazi guards in a camp and killed.
Yes war is hell. Does that mean there was a systematic plan to exterminate ''jews'' in particular or just enemies? I don't hear about Finnish genocide, Greek genocide, etc. Do we ignore those because they were --allegedly-- smaller in numbers?

I actually never seen that happening. What I did see, over and over again, is people like you repeating that holocaust deniers were BTFO without providing any convincing counter argument to all the points against the holocaust.

Yale is an institution with strong congregationalist roots. They are, out of all IL's, the farthest from having Semitic connections.

Also, the Ivy League was legally reprimanded for limiting the amount of Jewish students enrolled or accepted.

Certainly, what is in these images is part of the reality of Auschwitz, but proponents of the truth of the Holocaust don't deny them. There have been movies and books written about the Women's Orchestra in Auschwitz. There was some Daily Mail article where they interviewed a PoW who said he played soccer in Auschwitz on Sundays, and described how the Red Cross provided 4 sets of shirts for the different nationalities that could play, but he also said this
>'The first thing you’d notice was the smell,' said Ron. 'If the wind was in your direction the smell was terrible.'
>'We were always frightened we would be next.'

Denying the Armenian genocide is illegal in France. Some Turks also got sued in Switzerland for denying it. There were also measures in Ukraine to make denial of the Holodomor illegal.

when a group that promised a lot of dosh for any real evidence of the holocaust was taken to the supreme court by a jew who's "evidence" was his own testimony and the court forced them to pay up because the holocaust is "common knowledge", i knew which way the wind is blowing

Who do you think owns the corporations and "charities" funding those IL you fucking sheep?

Are you that retarded? East Germany only came under occupation after the second world war.

Melee weapons on the other hand are not. ISIS style executions could have been performed such as slitting throats, drowning, and lighting Jews on fire.

Have you even been at a ''death camp'', ever? Take a trip and see for yourself?

> I don't need to, internet provides me with all I want.
ok then

''A lie told often enough eventually becomes the truth''

No one is denying people were dying in the camps. There just wasn't a systematic plan to kill all jews. Why the fuck you give them so many things to do? Keep them happy keep them working. You don't kill your free labor source you use them.

And where would they put the bodies?
They didnt bury them
And they definitely didnt burn all of them

The smell of what? Burning the few that died from disease and whatnot, because burying typhus-ridden corpses would poison the water table?

jews boycott'd german goods
making them an enemy of the state in the state
they brought it upon them selfs.
you cant say that in france :P

Most IL funding for ORC / inf came from tax-payer funding. 117 billion dollars to be exact.

>bullets in WW2 time were more expensive than maintaining several gas chambers whose sole purpose was to kill jews
Sure thing.

>They didnt bury them
Well, if you count mass graves as burying, yeah they did bury a lot of them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Desbois

We already covered this you mong
THE GAS CHAMBERS DIDNT EXIST

if i put a gun in your hand and told you to start shooting them all, it would leave mental scaring and raise a few moral qustions

If you dumb fucks took 10 seconds to search you can find MOUNTAINS of info.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

Does anyone have the pic of the (((gas chambers))) that had keyholes and glass in the door? As well as vents on the roof?

Are you going to believe that kindly old woman (who looked you in the eye), General Eisenhower, every credible historian, and court testimony...or are you going to believe some faceless obese keyboard warriors that are convinced that G-d's Chosen People are behind their addiction to interracial porn.

>bullets that we need for war.
vs.
>starving and working Jews to death and gassing the rest.

If there was an effort to systematically kill Jews then why did the most of them survive?

That's despite it being illogical to transport, house, cloth, feed, wash and care for them if only to kill them.

Also that says nothing to the fact that Germans were genocided with terror bombing campaigns on civilians, summary executions and rape by the west and Russia.

Also what about the fact that Judaea declared war on Germany first?

Zyklon isn't for delousing humans, its a pesticide that releases a lethal toxin into the air. Considering the Typhus epidemic at the time it is entirely realistic that they would have Zyklon B on hand in the camps to take out any infestations that may have formed

I believe evidence.

>Appeals to authority
Not surprised

You can't be this retarded. I'm pretty sure that (you) are intentionally dumb, but on the off chance that you're not, here goes: none of the Ivy Leagues started as Jewish schools. Most of them are largely Jewish and minority-run and serving now. Try getting into an Ivy League school, especially Harvard and Yale, as a member of the middle class founding stock of this country... Yeah, it's not going to happen. Write it off.

Jews are something in the realm of 2% of the US population, maybe a slight bit more if you add in dubious mischlinge, yet they constitute well over 20% of Harvard and right around 20% of Yale admissions if memory serves. White non-Yiddish students are all of 10% of admissions at Harvard and maybe 15-20% at Yale. They pretty much run the faculty, they run most of the major campus organizations or have some say therein.

Anyone who speaks of the Puritan roots of Harvard and Presbyterian roots of Princeton needs their fucking heads checked. That is purely historic at this point. Most of these schools no longer boast a proud seminary school any longer; to the extent that they continue these, they're overshadowed entirely by the secular programs. Besides, most of the people going through are not training as ministers or even learning any real amount of liturgy or theology. At this point, most of the people going through the Ivy Leagues aren't even founding stock of this country. Hell, most of them aren't even plausibly of Christian origin.

If you think you're going to win the war, why rush the genocide? Especially if you can exploit the manpower of hundreds of thousands to aid the war effort through labour.

That is more plausible.

1. At first they were LABOR CAMPS.
2.Mein Kamph goes on at length at getting rid of Jews.
3.Germans were NOT reduced by 2/3's.
4.Russia did rape and murder people, but the West didn't.

The anti-Semitic countries of France, UK, USSR, and USA presented evidence at various trials. Israel has provided evidence at our own trials. If appealing to a higher authority is a crime, then arrest me.

>Mein Kamph goes on at length at getting rid of Jews.
Not murdering, getting rid of them as in deporting them.

Maybe so, but please use a non Wikipedia source. They are quite biased. For proof of its shittiness, check out the Black pride, Asian pride, and White pride pages and see the differences.

> appealing to a higher authority is a crime
It is not evidence, the highest authority in Germany were nazis, I suppose kikes are filthy theives and destroyers.

>The anti-Semitic countries of France, UK, USSR, and USA

JOSEPH STALIN in a reply given on January 12, 1931 to an enquiry made by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency of America (Stars and Sand, page 316)

"Anti-Semitism is dangerous for the toilers, for it is a false track which diverts them from the proper road and leads them into the jungle. Hence, Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable and bitter enemies of anti-Semitism. In the U.S.S.R., anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a phenomenon hostile to the Soviet system. According to the laws of the U.S.S.R. active anti-Semites are punished with death."

Go to the death camps. I've been to a few and you can see the confiscated shoes and eyeglasses. Then the gas chambers. Then the crematoria.

I spent summers in NYC helping my landlord uncle evict poor families from his apartments and I have never cried as a man...until I went to tour the death camps.

>Go to the death camps. I've been to a few and you can see the confiscated shoes and eyeglasses
Go to Halloween horror park, you will see the criminality and murder.

Bullets are violent and expensive and come at a premium in war. Gas is cheaper, cleaner, more humaine (CO is no smell, no smoke no cough nothing, literally just coma->painless death).

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Jews in Europe before WW2 - 9.5 mil
Jews in Europe after WW2 - 3.5 mil
That settles it.

>implying killing people is a effective use of resources.
there are 101 things you can do with a jew, death will come naturally

>They pretty much run the faculty, they run most of the major campus organizations or have some say therein.
With this, I'm obviously referring to Jewish administrators. Their bias isn't always insidious, but it can be. It often is. Especially if things involving Israel and Palestine come up. Beside which, they have a decidedly hard left bent, even further left than typical for academia.

If you're not a fucking moron who lives under a rock, you also know that Heebs run Hollywood; they run the entertainment industry of the West as well as most of the major news and multimedia corps. Google was founded and disproportionately controlled and staffed by Jews with ties to DARPA; then you have (((Fox)), (((ABC))), (((CBS))), (((Miramax))), (((RedTube/YouPorn/internet porn generally))), etc. etc.

>anti-Semetic remark

I thought this board was a joke but it's really a shonda. I'm reporting this to the Admin to shut it down.

like 3 mil jews moved to america during the war.
you should look up jewish migration

The 6 million number is not just Jews, it includes political prisoners, POWS, and gays. The Jews love perpetuating the 6 gorrilian as just Jews, and I really don't think it was 6 bazillion. The death camps were just too poorly engineered (for the most part) to effectively exterminate that many people. Even then, a lot of the deaths at the camps were mostly from disease and malnutrition, not gassing.

Between conflicting sources, it's too hard to say with certainty how many people were actually gassed at the camps alone purely because they did not log any numbers.

However, It's actually believable to have a much larger total number (10-12 million) if you take into account the massacres and other forms of murder (like cutting off food to entire villages) nazis have done onto the citizenry of their captive countries (like the massacres of the poles) including as those killed in the camps to the total.

Remember, the nazis killed people as well as Jews.

OH VEY
>shut it down

Jews don't exist and neither does a shoah, jewish identity only exist for imperialism and exploitation to otherize other peoples for exploitation.

youtube.com/watch?v=flWTWG-gTT4

well if you run out of prison space, than killing people just seems logical.
How can one run a sucessful detention centre if you have to let them go early

>In middle school a 80 year old woman was brought in by the school and she was a holocaust survivor

Good age to brainwash the goy

I was introduced to the holocaust in 6th grade.

Not me. Hoess, given the chance to say it was all a conspiracy against the regime, simply stated that people were gassed. Capable of killing 2,000 at a given time.

My grandfather died too, some guy fell out of a guard tower and fell on him

Right, my culture doesn't exist. That's real rich coming from an American, which is the epitome of having no culture.

>he says, while spamming interracial porn
>there is a box of shoes and a shower room
>therefore, six million jews

Prove the holocaust ever happened, give me pictures that can't possibly have been edited, or a video not staged.

PROTIP: you can't.

Which is when they were gassed.