Explain yourself, Sup Forums
>white steals land from native AMERICAN Indians
>Okay fine, stealing is fair game
>Non-white immigrants legally come to America
>Whites scream "help help, white genocide" and "get back to your country, AMERICA IS WHITE"
If whites stole the land from native Indians, then isn't it fair game if immigrants "steal" the land from whites?
Where do you think you are? Rational thinking is a bannable offense.
Fuck you vietshit I ain't gotta explain nothing to you.
I don't blame them for trying
"The path to power is paved with hypocrisy."
It's not as if we're unaware of the inconsistency. We simply don't care about it because it doesn't help our tribal position.
More like
>give these niggers literaly everything like guns, basic masonry skills, up their technology levels immensly.
>trade for land
>all of a sudden dont want to give up their land
>kill them for it
>they fight back like niggers would fight
>woop their ass and take the land.
Sorry aboutcha. Kys
Trailer trash detected. By the the way, I'm a white American on vacation. Topkek.
and when we kill all of them it will be fair game under that argument. Nuking you would also be fair game
The natives fought back and lost.
We just have to not lose.
If the nonwhite hordes successfully take over, it's their country then
We're just trying to stop it, as the previous natives should have
>If whites stole the land from native Indians, then isn't it fair game if immigrants "steal" the land from whites?
You are kidding right?
There is literally a historical predecend of a race being genocided by imigrants, and you expect white people to not be worried the same could happen to them?
It is only logical to try and stop imigration, if the natives tried to stop the pilgrims instead of helping them they would still have their land and would not have been genocided.
You are literally proving that stopping imigration is the right thing to do.
they did try and they did fail, for the record.
It's so dumb that we didn't use nukes in the Vietnam war. It could be over in a day, but we refused to win.
>>give these niggers literaly everything like guns, basic masonry skills, up their technology levels immensly.
>>trade for land
>>all of a sudden dont want to give up their land
What if they don't like the technology? Maybe they liked living off the land. Why do whites keep insisting on pushing their ideaology? Keep your idealogies to yourself, like how you such keep your hands to yourself.
Trading beads for land is called being a scam artist. So your white ancestors were scam artists?
>It's not as if we're unaware of the inconsistency. We simply don't care about it because it doesn't help our tribal position.
Fair enough. At least you're aware of this unlike some poltards that backwards rationalize.
>Native americans murder millions of colonizers
>Whites say they dont want colonizers
>OY VEY REMEMBER THE 60 GORROLION WHO DIED FROM THE TACTICAL ASSUALT BLANKETS
just because some caveman tier cunts lived on land doesn't mean they own it. Native tribes are like fauna, they don't own the land.
Fuck off back the the jungle chow mein.
>and when we kill all of them it will be fair game under that argument
Please do not use the word, "we". You DID not fought in the Vietnam war, YOU did not contribute anything (you weren't even alive back then)
You can use the world "America" which is okay or "my grandpa".
You are a nobody but use the word "we" to associate yourself with a powerful government.
(much like a modern day neo-nazi who use the world "we" to praise Hitler, but in reality the neo nazi is a cringe nobody)
FYI, I am a WHITE AMERICAN, who is on vacation.
>ancestor comes over from england
>produces tar and exports to england for ship building
>on indian land that he didnt own
>angry indian burns down his tar works
>he gets the militia and take the indian prisoner
>either be executed or enslaved
>indian's friends give all their land up for his release
>ancestor became very wealthy and founded a town that still exists to this day
true story
Fuck youu Ibrahim
youre correct
the weak should fear the strong
I pay my taxes so I can say we. I like to think that all my tax dollars go toward building nukes.
>americans
>white
whatever you say ching chong.
> natives defended their land that was being colonized
> whites are mocked for even suggesting their land is being colonized
yea total double-standard, you got us again, because native american tribal land was definitely never fought over before, as evidenced by the balkanized tribes with their own armies of warriors
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>I pay my taxes
Good goy
hope some kong mug you there
If the indians had proper immigration and zoning laws we would have respected them, but being lawless savages it was our christian duty to offer them the benefits of white civilization.
But remember, whites were cave men tier in Europe. They didn't bath and believe an invisible man in the sky. To believe that whites are different from native Indians is ignorant, even if your DNA is 99 the same.
>two wrongs make a right
I expect nothing less from a country that uses guerilla warfare tactics to destroy freedom
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you fucking racist yelllow commie piece of shit
Im glad the zionists agent oranged the shit out of yous
No you're not, cause you talk like a gook.
How close is our DNA to monkeys? 85%
Indigenous weren't american. That concept later came via the Europeans that settled and conquered you queer bastard.
what the fuck is your point? The point is north america wasn't owned.
Let me tell you again, native tribes fighting, huge white tribe comes over and pushes their shit in. Native tribes lost, how is that hypocritical that we beat them at their own game?
Anyway way you slice it, it's perfectly legal and fine. They weren't a country, they were just retards painting with poop. They didn't own the land because they didn't even have a written language or an alphabet, they were basically animals. It has nothing to do with european history or culture, sure everyone were cavemen at one point, the point is that civilization trumps animal people eating poo and raping their kids in the forest.
>whatever you say ching chong.
The great comeback from a no GF Sup Forumstard. Isn't Canada full of Indians and Chinese?
But user you can only steal from other humans
Also it is getting more widely accepted now that the first Native Americans were in fact Europeans. Europeans arrived here a few thousand years before Asians cross the Bering Strait land bridge.
That essentially makes the settlement of at least the eastern half of North America and intra-european issue
you are talking to a native dumbshit.
We don't want the thing we stole stolen from us.
Why is that so hard to understand?
those who we conquered had a choice to fight back and kill us
we dont have that choice,if we fight we get arrested and are told to accept our fate
that is the frustration
>I pay my taxes so I can say we.
Aren't your on food stamp? Again, unless you fought in the war, you cannot say "we". If you say "we" to the service men that fought Vietnam War, they will look at you like you're a retard.
people falling for this bait
Keep going, you're almost there. Now what happened to those Indians when they allowed themselves to be stolen from? In retrospect, should they have taken steps to prevent it?
>Indigenous weren't american. That concept later came via the Europeans that settled and conquered you queer bastard.
They're called NATIVE AMERICAN, OR NATIVE INDIANS. That's what AMERICAN history textbook calls them.
Whites stole the land from Native Indians. It's okay to say what it is but it's another thing to be ignorant and backwards rationalize.
>Steal land
Bought, conquered, and otherwise settled. Without official legal claims to the land the land cannot be stolen
>Legal immigration is the basis of the idea of white genocide
Nigger you what? Explain this. I have never heard someone equate legal immigration to genocide
>Native Indians
theyre not indians you dumb commie
they're an entirely different race than what you see in india
fuck off retard.
sage
Injuns didn't just roll over, they fought back. So should we
user, why are you treating American Indians as a homogenous block?
Natives didn't fight back and see where it got them?
>land stolen from Indians
>bad
>from whites
>good
If only we had made them regular citizens back when we conquered their indian nations to begin with. Think our racism came back to bite us in the ass there a bit...
Because there is a difference.
Two men fight to own a thing, clay, woman, object. One is better than the other, he gets the thing.
White genocide on the other hand is something that is orchestrated through several cultural influences. Breaking down the nuclear family, white guilt, immigration and population replacement etc.
If we had launched a propaganda program telling white men are gods and all native women should breed with them while making the natives ashamed of their culture and who they are, constantly telling them their words are bad, their history is shit etc, then it would be comparable.
You can be against white genocide and understand that some excuses or a better deal should be given to the native Americans.
With great power comes great responsibility and we didn't a always act very responsible towards the defeated native Americans.
>The point is north america wasn't owned.
Yes, it was owned by the Native Indians, just like how whites owned Europe.
>Let me tell you again, native tribes fighting, huge white tribe comes over and pushes their shit in. Native tribes lost, how is that hypocritical that we beat them at their own game?
So, you're admitting your ancestors are barbaric? How can you preach democracy when you and your ancestors (since you like muh tribal) killed native Indians?
>Anyway way you slice it, it's perfectly legal and fine.
No it's not. Killing is not legal. Then why did your ancestors killed native Indians?
Again, it's OKAY to admit that your ancestors killed native Indians. I'm not judging you on that. But it's IGNORANT to say it's "legal" (LOL)
>They weren't a country, they were just retards painting with poop. They didn't own the land because they didn't even have a written language or an alphabet, they were basically animals. It has nothing to do with european history or culture.
Um, whites in Europe were so poo in the loo dirty that they didn't wash. The worse PLAGUE that happened mostly in EUROPE, because you people didn't practice proper hygiene.
To a certain extend, "we" (your ancestors) were dirtier than poo in the loos.
>inb4 WE DUDNT ACKSHULLY DO IT IT'S NOT OUR FULT ITS GRANDDADDYS FULT
>inb4 some weird double-standard about how the native americans shouldn't have lost if they wanted their land
they get neetbux and casinos from uncle samuel.
Are you stupid? People have been trying to steal land from whites for ever. Read some history books.
Kek
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>those who we conquered had a choice to fight back and kill us
>we dont have that choice,if we fight we get arrested and are told to accept our fate
You cannot say "we". Because YOU did not fight wars, your ANCESTORS did.
Say your great-great-great grand dad painted a picture. You said "WE PAINTED IT!" but it's your grandad^3 that painted it.
Do not claim what is not yours.
you can't be racist towards white people, bud
you're definitely not helping your quest on making white people seem like the victim by calling someone a "yellow commie piece of shit"
It's not a bait - it's a legit question. Most poltards like to plug their ears and go la la la when their rationalize falls, so they revert back to name calling. Literally underage 14 years old tier behavior
They didn't need to be scam artists, because they couldn't fool anything other than dumb natives.
look its an injun!
dont scalp me bro
dance me a rain dance
you are fucking stupid. I can't explain it to you because your mind is already made up. Whites didn't colonize the world, civilization and technology did. It just so happens whites had those tools.
>what if they don't like the technology
Clearly they did, otherwise they wouldn't have traded for it.
>maybe they liked living off the land
Is that how the five civilized tribes came about? Also nice projecting.
>why do whites keep insisting on pushing their ideology
Funny, that's what you're doing right now.
>trading beads for land
The tribe that took the beads didnt actually own the land they were selling. Some other tribe did, and you call us scam artists lol.
I pay over 20k a year in income taxes alone. My property tax is around $4k a year. I could have at least funded some fuel for the planes to drop nukes.
lol fuck white people
were evil and fucked up and all the yellows,niggers and shitskins have good reason to hate us
>legally
I dont think you know what that means
Also our ancestors raped and pillaged to obtain this land from savages just the same as humans of all ethnic groups have been doing for thousands and thousands of years
>le strawman
This is like saying to a boxer "if you like knocking people out, why do you get upset when you get knocked out?"
They aren't Indians you racist piece of shit
>>Legal immigration is the basis of the idea of white genocide
>Nigger you what? Explain this. I have never heard someone equate legal immigration to genocide
You see, whites claim that legal immigration is white genocide because whites aren't breeding fast enough (or too beta, or too recessive gene when they race mix)
To be fair, they do have illegal immigrant problems in America or Europe.
its america get used to it
>conquering land and killing people is only ok when non-whites do it
fuck you STOOPID.
There was no "America" before white people. Just land. All world empires started somewhere, with warfare. Welcome to the world gook....if it makes you feel any better, most NA were hostile assholes who were busy killing each other before we arrived. now there is law and order.
Apparently they're from modern day Serbia but Mongol DNA, thus most Native Indians look Asian.
REALLY got me thinking.
I have seen the errors of my ways.
We didn't steal shit, we shot and killed featherheads till they left.
>autism
>yellow fever
checks out
I think what we did to the natives was terrible but I can't change it because it is the current year and I had nothing to do with it personally. this time around we can defend them and the country. Immigration = less welfare and attention on the suffering natives in shit reserves. We need to help our own before trying to help intruders.
We don't need to overpopulate the world. If we're worried about human made climate change, then we should depopulate cultures that have too much population growth.
Depopulate i.e. Nukes
Outside of that ONE time they were forced to move to what is now Tennessee, when have we stolen the lands from the American Indians? We bought every single piece of this country from whoever owned the territory at the time.
>Whites claim legal immigration is white genocide
Where? Reasonable, controlled legal immigration is never equated to white genocide.
Perhaps you are confusing this with unchecked mass migrations of individuals from one nation to another?
>white steals land from native AMERICAN Indians
WRONG
Fought for it for about 400 years
There was no such thing as 'America' until white people called it that. We didn't steal anything, we settled it and then fought for it and won it.
Immigrants aren't coming to the land Native Americans made great, they are coming to the land whites made great.
It's fair game that we ban non white Europeans from entering the US for the next 200 years.
We conquered these lands.
Why in the fuck would we allow ourselves to be conquered? It is a, mostly, bloodless invasion. They are replacing our population, subverting our culture, taking over our lands (ghettos and 90% minority areas) as well as demonizing us for being in a position of power that we fucking created.
whatever you fucking retarded communist shit
I dont debate with retarded racist 3rd world communist shit like you so here's your (you)
What's that old saying? Those who cannot debate, sage. It helps if you have a girlfriend, it helps with your debating / social skills.
>Injuns didn't just roll over, they fought back. So should we
Fair enough. Saying like how it is.
>>land stolen from Indians
>>bad
>>from whites
>>good
Notice in the OP I never said it's good or bad, nor the pretext is good or bad. But the fragile white narrative is "muh land is stolen it's unfair!!!!" when in reality, whites stole the land first.
Why didnt yous keep dropping napalm and agent orange on those vietshits till all of them died out, america?
why?
>If only we had made them regular citizens back when we conquered their indian nations to begin with. Think our racism came back to bite us in the ass there a bit...
Ding ding ding.
This anons gets it because racism backfires.
Most people can't see the third sequence of things but only know the first sequence.
>But the fragile white narrative is "muh land is stolen it's unfair!!!!" when in reality, whites stole the land first.
Morality should always be based on what benefits the group to which said morality applies. For whites, whites conquering is good and whites being conquered is bad. Likewise with "fair" and "unfair".
I'm 35 and married you fucking idiot. That is your argument, which isn't an argument at all.
>war is only bad when whites do it
That is your whole argument. I'm sorry that you are a stupid libcuck.
If I'm born in some random place on the planet, I do not become the immediate owner of the land unless I have a written document saying so. Natives had as much right as animals did, they were part of the forest, i.e. part of the land, that means we owned them once we bought the land since they had nothing to prove otherwise. That's what civilization means, it gives you rights, they had neither, too bad for them.
Whites "steal" land babysit niggers while trying to avoid getting underminded in order to promote a society that can work for everyone but it tends to be underminingly strenuous when crazy bitches, and I use that word loosely. Do you guys see where im going with this? Please let me know if I should actually finish this rant.
>you can't be racist towards white people, bud
heres what you do
1. go to the highest building in your city
2. wait till there is a large crowd beneath
3. LEAP TO YOUR DEMISE
We didn't conquer the natives because of racism, it was because they were retard tier cavemen and we needed land. They were literally sitting around campfires eating each other and raping kids. Ever heard of the blackfoot or apache? No ofcourse not because you are a fucking idiot.
Just think, amerika
if we had keep bombing those faggot retards like this wouldnt even be making threads today
It would be a white women black'd thread or some shit.
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what qualifies as ownership of land? is it a deed? nativism?