Can anyone tell me what actually is wrong with Islam?

Can anyone tell me what actually is wrong with Islam?

To me it has all the elements of a religion that would benefit Europe. Islam has:
- strong birth rates
- deeply traditional
- patriarchial
- against all forms of degeneracy
- against liberalism and feminism
- warrior religion (like the vikings and other European forms of paganism)
-it's followers are not afraid to risk their life to attack their enemies
- The founder of the religion was an alpha male, he had dozens and dozens of wives, conquered vast lands in short period of time and evene threatened the Roman and Byzantium empires also at one point he had beheaded 600 jews
- it is the most anti-semitic religion
- it has a law system that punishes criminals and ensures patriarchy under rule of law

I can go on and on.

I don't see why adopting Islam wouldn't improve Europe. The only arguments you can make are:

>Muslims are violent

No they're not. Muslims just aren't cucks like Europoors. Europeans and Western people have completely destroyed the Middle East killing millions of men, women and children in the process. You have to respect the bravery of these men to fight for what they believe in unlike most Western cucks who fight for Jews in killing Muslims.

>Mohammad was a pedophile

No he wasn't. The age of consent were different 1400 years ago. It's said that Mary was 13 when she had Jesus. The fact is that times have changed.

>Islam is a semitic religion filled with shitskins

Christianity is a semitic religion and Africa and Latin America is filled to the brim with Christians. These are your brothers and sisters in Christ. So this isn't an argument.

Overall your grudges against Islam are not based on rational thinking and strong arguments. It's purely based on an emotional reaction.

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TL;DR

Deus vult.

muslims have created some of the worst places to live on the planet

I don't inherently have a problem with them, but they are causing too many problems in Europe, and therefore they need to go back.

>not afraid to risk their life to attack their enemies
Everyone's their enemy, even each other.

The same thing thats wrong with any religion. It's fine if it makes you or your community a better place, it's bad if you take it too seriously.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Execution

Neat thread, Ahmed. Go fuck yourself

Homosexual pedophilia, inferior genetics, low IQ, no understanding of the metaphysical. Too stupid, angry and violent at worst, too stupid at best.

I'm not a Muslim, I'm a civilized white
They drive our inventions around in the sand and are pure savages to anyone who comes near
Of course I want to end them

It's basically meteorite worshipping

incest, arab supremacy and retarded low IQ's you fucking wank

why do muslims get on their knees to worship those green/yellow/red swirly patterns? seems like false idol worship to me. no thanks.

Islam isn't just a religion, it's a culture as well. I think you're spot on your assessments on Islam being based, but it's not OUR culture to adopt, just as we can't adopt the cultures of China or Japan even when a lot of us can admit that their cultures are superior to our own.

Islam did not create the West, Christianity did. Adopting Islam would mean forfeiting our cultures of at least the last thousand years, which is the exact antithesis of everything you're trying to argue right now.

> rational
If you want to stick your ass up into the air 10 times a day to worship a kiddie fiddler then go ahead.

It's political in nature. Whether they are violent or not the endgame is to replace the laws of man with the laws of Allah. It is, according to their followers, a revolutionary (as in overthrow the gov't) ideology

Against logic and proper thinking also.

>it's a 'what's wrong with islam' episode

>- strong birth rates

.........only because WE PAY FOR THEM. They leech welfare, they don´t work, they are lazy as fuck. God how fucking blind are all of you open those threads supporting islam? literally they low our fucking salaries because we have to fucking maintain their fat asses.

If you want a fucking muslim paradise go on, but if you don´t work your ass off to give them benefits pray for you to make it alive.

>strong birth rates
Through incest and often funded by taxpayers
>deeply traditional
Traditions aren't inherently good when they damage society
>patriarchial
To a fault (ie: women not being able to drive, having to wear burkas)
>against all forms of degeneracy
Except rape, incest, and pedophilia
>against liberalism and feminism
Except when it suits them, politically
>warrior religion (like the vikings and other European forms of paganism)
And the Vikings were essentially glorified raiders who would be considered degenerates in any civilized society
>it's followers are not afraid to risk their life to attack their enemies
Which leads to terrorism
>The founder of the religion was an alpha male, he had dozens and dozens of wives, conquered vast lands in short period of time and evene threatened the Roman and Byzantium empires also at one point he had beheaded 600 jews
Polygamy leads to children being neglected by their fathers and had the Arabs not conquered North African and the Levant, those regions would likely be as Civilized as Europe.
>it is the most anti-semitic religion
Religions aren't anti-Semitic, people are
>it has a law system that punishes criminals and ensures patriarchy under rule of law
With outdated and extreme punishments

Not only that, but there's plenty of support in the hadith for making lots of kids and muslims in European countries continue to produce higher birth rates than their native counterparts. The "muh modern educated society will lower their birth rates" is a meme

Christianity failed. Islam is the new paradigm. Covert now kuffar or side with degeneracy.

youtube.com/watch?v=2htOWOF4gqs

I live in a very very perverted society, specially the coast provinces in my country are very depraved, when you see all that corruption pimped by the Christianity, you realize that this way has nothing to do with God.

There is no justice, nobody really cares, because that "Jesus" is just a cuck teaching cuckoldery.

Muslims at least have death penalty to perverts.

It's a sand nigger religion.

It's like Christianity or Judaism but worse.

it's literally the mark of the beast and you'll go to hell forever if you follow it. it's all in Revelation

Is not a religion of peace, you must understand.

There is no peace without justice, this is something christians cant understand, because Christianity is on peace with the just and the unjust, with the fair, and the unfair, with the decent, and the pervert.

"Islam is a religion of peace" is just a meme, muslims don't believe on that.

fpbp

>live in a christian country
>be a shut in
>live in a muslim country
>be a shut in

if Islam is so great why does it create so many refugees?

Maybe it'd help if you stopped dropping bombs on them.

If only their kids where smart and future workers...but nope, they insult our nurses and doctors, a fucking little muslim kid stopping looking at me with killer eyes, they costs us a lot of money, etc.

>Muslims at least have death penalty to perverts.

Literally millon of muslim men flying to Europe to fuck every white they want. Heck they rape kids and old women if they don´t find any dirty white girl.

They are perverts, add that to don´t have any interest in learning so you have boring ADULT men asking for sex (is happening already in Europe) instead of taking care of his fucking family.

When are high birth rates not funded by taxpayers?

>When are high birth rates not funded by taxpayers?
When the parents have the means to provide for their children instead of relying on the welfare state.

>dropping bombs

Most of the refugees aren´t even flying of a war, they come for benefits and sex and they get angry if they don´t get any of that.

>bombs

I guess women and children can resists bombs then because I don´t fucking see any of them between refugees.

>see flag

You will understand it soon. Prepare to lower salaries and higher taxes to pay for muslims to have kids. Literally you will gain less money working than a lazy muslims jobless.

You are in Phase 1 now.

Praise Kek.

Islam is a fucking Semitic Religion. BOOM Debunked!

We literally already do that. What's left to understand?

A lof of those people come from afghanistan, iraq and iran. Now tell me which countries the united states waged war in. I blame the american foreign policy more than I blame middle easterns for this whole crisis to be honest.

It's biggest most monumental flaw is the fact that it has Muhammad as its role model and denies Jesus Christ's sacrifice and nature.

This is nothing. You will see it in the future.

I blame America too for removing dictators from middle east, they should understand these people needs a strong leader or else everything will get out of control

Of course we can tell that the American wars was pretty convenient to a lot of perverts and lazy muslims to come here.

They created a perfect environment for religious radicals to thrive in. If the same thing happened in Spain as in the middle east the Spanish would be the same. Muslims aren't inherently shit people, they've just been driven to a hopeless corner because it benefitted some 1% in America and Saudi Arabia.
Now that doesn't redeem any of the actions that the muslims are committing in Europe now. They should be still shot dead but you should see the correlation with americans bombing the shit out of a country, raping everyone, taking everything they had -> this created religious radicals ->said religious radicals hate the countries that did this to them instead of just outright blaming islam.
But there's no use crying over spilt milk, if there's a rabid dog then it's a sad thing that it became rabid but it still has to die.

Last time Europe had such religion dark ages happened. It was christianity and newly christianized vandal tribes who delivered final blow to Rome. From south muslims stopped whole trade on mediterranean sea making Rome weak and starting its fall. After that all books, art, music dance everything was banned unless done by monks and praising religion. Medicine was forgotten, science was forbidden. It took us until renaissance when finally Europe got back to level of late Roman empire. Religion is bad, nothing good ever happened due to religion, all is propaganda.

The romans were also degenerates who jerked off to blonde little girls getting raped and eaten by babboons so yeah.

Agreed OP, I think Islam is a decent religion to rule when we collapse. If you're a man it will be pretty good, feminism will be dead for sure and degenerecy will be punished. I just wish there was only one type of Islam and that shia and Sunni would not fight so much. Besides that Islam will be good for us. Plus they hate Jews. What's not to like again?

The first text on Islam is Stephen Coughlin's book Catastrophic Failure. It completely and authoritatively rebuts all OP's confused ideas, and answers all basic questions. If you have not read this book then you have nothing to say about Islam.

>live in a muslim country
>be a shut in
>no porn
>no vidya
>but you could buy a bride or two

>Besides that Islam will be good for us

In what? are they gonna work to maintain their children? what about the salary with high birth rates? because from my pov are the infidels and christians who are working to maintain their lazy asses.

I guess they will have an economycal plan that don´t rely on infidels, right? because "praying" is not something that can feed a country.

>>said religious radicals hate the countries that did this to them instead of just outright blaming islam.

I guess that is true with people with jobs who lost everything, but is not true for all those lazy people who are not even flying for a war.

Hell in TV Media they are calling women and children (from Sirya) to fucking african niggas.

> Muslims aren't inherently shit people

Muslims just have discovered the benefits from technology and I can see them lacking self-control when they have porn with 1 click.
Atleast muslims from here are fucking lazy and are the first one to be "glad" about wars that let them enter Europe.

That myth has been debunked. Baboons were discovered by Europeans long after the Empire fell.

Islam only creates litteral shitholes with inbred and stupid as fuck people who prefer spending their time allahsnackbaring and spying on their neighbours instead of making their society better.

I already don't watch porn. Video games are eh, I only play when I'm really bored and even then I don't enjoy it that much. I got a new computer now so I played a couple of games but before that I had a very shitty one that literally froze on hearthstone so I went without games for at least a year. So I could easily go without video games.
Brides meh, I mean if girls want kids then I don't mind but I won't go out of my way to get them.
Only the the lazy and the cowards survive wars, the brave and smart got hanged by americans because "muh oil". And it's the excuse for those people to enter, if there was no war there'd be no excuse to not stay in their countries.

Two words senpai:
Arab Nationalism

I would be the first to convert to islam if it allowed other nations to express national pride or in some other way could mix your own culture with the teachings of the quran.

But the mudshits insist on islam being grounded in arab culutre which promotes pedophilia, female circumcision and honor killings.

Places that converted to islam 200 years ago managed to retain old customs while somewhat adhering to the teachings of islam

>Live in a Muslim country
>Have to worry about not getting blown up everyday

Romans were still pretty degenerate, and if their science and culture was so much better then why'd they lose to christians. I guess religion > science then :^)

Creationism is the dumbest shit ever. Any theory based on faith alone is a theory not worth taking seriously. The fact that is HAS been taken seriously, for so long by so many people, is awful. It's global intellectual corruption to say the least.

Islam itself is especially problematic because it has never gone through an enlightenment period. In fact if anything it regressed a little bit after Muhammad died, but has never had a reformation or anything. It's shittier than ever, literally. The interpretations are TOO easily "radical". What I mean by that is that the way Islam is written in the Koran is very vague in too many key areas. Like all of these cancerous abrahamic religions, fabrications which are not supported by any kind of evidence is more than half of what the religions are in essence (anecdotes and ""witnesses"" from a thousand years ago don't matter. deal with it). Religion is histories greatest regressive enemy in a sense of human rights. Governments and their people have always eventually overcome the doctrinal rules and bullshit laws/authority of religion. Islam however has not. Islam merely divided itself into how it "should be" translated and interpreted. Just look up shariah law and compare it to the laws of, say, USA. See for yourself why it's garbage

>wrong with Islam
nothing

>live in a muslim country
>united states declares war on the country
>go to the united states on refugee status
>be a shut in
>maybe rape some little girls

I would probably be ok with Islam if it wasn't an arab supremacist movement. But you can't deny the facts:
>it imposes arab as the only divine language.
>worships an arab.
>wants everyone to behave like arabian tribes did 14 centuries ago.
>It places ethnic arabs at the top of the social pyramid, the converse will never have the same status quo.

Therefore, no thanks.

What's stopping you from making a muslim sect in denmark that retains danish customs with adhering to the teachings of islam. You'd even get funding from your country.

>in fact, not okay with it at all
>in fact, those facts indicate that we should destroy it before it destroys us

Muslims can't even figure out what Islam is actually since they constantly say other muslims aren't muslim

Well it's pretty easy to see what's wrong with Islam after opening a history book, instead of shitposting some worthless opinions.

>make a french muslim sect
>if arab muslims say it's bad just shoot them
>police can't do anything against muslims because it's raycisss
>drive the arab muslims out
>have a french country with traditional values

This.

Vercingetorix Akbar!!!

Just make up your own word for allah, just like how christians did with "god".

Just look at reality instead of text and you have your answer.

As I said, islam as it is known today would never allow like this to happen, and as the image of islam has already been tainted by sandniggies blowing up metro stations, it would be useless. I Have considered doing this if I end up in prison though

Source?

Because they worship a pedophile.

>islam as it is known today would never allow like this to happen
What, Mr. Islam will come knocking at your door saying "nuh-huh buddy you can't have islam like that!"? You do what you want mate, if you get threats you call the authorities, and they even have to do something if your organisation is muslim.

All muslims should be beheaded.

Honestly we should just roll with the classic "Deus Vult".

Crusades were mostly a french phenomenon in its origins.
The problem is that french people have forgotten their history. Mostly because they don't teach it anymore in schools.

I swear to god, the first thing you can see in college history books nowadays is the history of Muhammad and Islam, I wish I was joking.

Fuck Islam.

What's with all the Islam threads today?

OP BTFO

And Sun Worshipping christians are better in some way how?

That because Islam, unlike Christianity, is much more than a mere religion. And it's shit all around.

Fuck Islam.

No booze and no bacon so they can fuck right off with their mudshit beliefs.

go outside

>benefit europe

the main thing that's wrong with it is that it denies the Godhood of Jesus Christ

it doesn't help that its practiced by a lot of violent loonies

nigger, turn on the news and look

>violent loonies
Likely the inbreeding. Apparently with inbreeding the rates of mental illness skyrockets. With the frequency and long history of cousin marriages it's a huge issue

Fuck off Islam is violent and kills infidels, it is virus, fuck that religion eat pig fucker Deus Vult ISLAM ASS SHIT

Yeah pretty much this. I respect Islam for the most part (Christianity can be extreme too but society seems to ignore it) but to go against the flow of our culture just isn't going to work. Let them do what they want in their own homes but when they try to start changing my way of life they can fuck off.

I would never assume the Islamic position. I would rather go out in a blaze of glory.

Find one place in the Bible where God himself told anyone to bow down. Yet every time God told man, when he bowed, to stand up on his feet like a man! Everytime!

Islam is a lie and these girls are stupid!

Lookat how much the entire islamic world has contributed to science in the last 50 years. That's enough for me

>falling for the scientific jew
Good goy

>actually lives in a muslim country
>Have porn
>Have vidya
>But can't buy a gf
I swear this is the last time I get tricked by the eternal franc

What is Dubai

>I don't see why adopting Islam wouldn't improve Europe.
Thanks for the offer, but we have got our own religion which has been sufficient for more than a thousand years. Since our culture, laws and science has been based around it the smarter and more respectful move is to go back to our own roots, how far and distant that may seem.

>The only arguments you can make are:
Islam is not compatible with western culture: not compatible with Liberalism in the modern west or Catholicism in its original state.

>Christianity makes empires weak
Byzantium was Christian and survived until 1453 and that should really make you think. The Byzantines kept the scientific and philosophical heritage of ancient Rome and Greece alive, seeing it as a precursor to the new theology, while western Europe was in disarray.

>renaissance
The renaissance wasn't a rebirth of anything, Greek or Roman, it's a complete misnomer. It was actually a breakaway from the ancient world and their way of thinking, named so by bunch of edgy fedora tippers who literally called themselves 'Enlightened' and who gave us an extremist and destructive concept of individual freedoms of which we are dealing now with its consequences: multiculture, feminism, sexual deviancy.. a casual survey of pol's catalog will show more.

Returning to the original point on the restoration of Europe: atheism and liberalism of the 'Enlightenment' will not save us but lead into barbarism. Islam will save us in a pinch but throw away anything of a semblance of Western culture. Best plan is rediscovering our own roots. Honor thy Father and Mother.

They can thank you and the british for that

Islam is a religion of violence, fear and hatred. To live in a caliphate is to live under a bloodthirsty tyrannical dictatorship. It has no place in the modern world unless it can be fundamentally challenged and critiqued openly.

Christianity is the religion that made the west great and it is Christianity that we need to make a place in our lives for.

Yet they won't let more muslims in.

REALLY MAKES THE OL' HEAD BEAN SPIN

Because people should be allowed to make shitty choices.

The end.

Freedom is a two way street, shit stain.

But no really, all you islam sympathizers should just go kill yourselves.

As an orthodox christian that lives with a muslim mother and sister; Islam really is degenerate.
It may seem like a dream come true for a beta cuck like you. But a real man should find a wife thats sucessful ambitious and hard working, as well as loyal (rare but they exist). You just want to compensate for your own weak personality, so you want a wife to be nothing more than a fuckhole and a babymaker. You want a society that doesnt punish rape and child abuse, that treats men as superior beings without them having to deserve such status with their own efforts.
Islam is degenerate because it brainwashes its followers to kill and abuse innocent people just because they worship a different god, it lets weak men feel powerful because they can do whatever they like with women, and it promises incompetent betas 72 virgins if they kill themselves in the name of god, if they take non muslims down with them. They have arhaic backwards laws and oppose to any kind of reform and modernisation, because their religion mustn't be changed. Islam hold back societal development and cannot work together with capitalism or respect basic human rights.

If islam was so great, why are all the muslim countries absolute hellholes to live in?

t. Lamija

If you have to ask this question you are either 12 or trolling.

They're all fucking terrorists