Does the right hate music?

Hey, Sup Forums, why is it that the majority of good musicians are leftists?

It seems that all the greatest artists are either socialists, liberals, feminists or generally degenerate pussies. I also feel like most people my age (early 20s) who lean right don't care that much for music while leftists are in love with it... It's a lonely life being in love with music and also being passionate about far-right politics. Thoughts?

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It seems as thought the majority of new music is lefty. But rock n roll bands from the 70s - 80s are pretty right. Megadeth, Iron Maiden, and Ted Nugent just to name some examples.

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Forgot to mention this thread can also serve as a red-pilled music recommendations kind of thing, here are some good bands:

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I didn't know they were right leaning? Not into Megadeth or Iron Maiden though but I've never heard of Ted Nugent

There's plenty of far right music so I dunno what you're talking about

Recently there was this effort to push "synthwave" as the semi-official music of the alt-right or whatever, though i find it pretty lame

There's also martial indsturial, neofolk like Triarii, Arditi, Von Thronstahl etc.

The Daily Shoah makes funny parody songs.

and there's classical music like Wagner, Vivaldi

personally I tend not to limit my musical experience based on politics

That's a nice neofolk primer user
plus Sup Forums Moz

Because they are virtue signaling attention whores. Just like most celebrities.

Ted Nugent is pretty good made your generic rock n roll, megadeth in multiple songs called out left wing govt and people, and iron maiden makes music about shit like WWI and other wars or armed conflicts. Kinda like a really old sabaton

Those were not commercial bands and didn't get air play during their primes either.

(((Musicians))) and entertainers in general are created and controlled by the establishment in order to, among other things, push agendas and endorse politicians when necessary etc.

You can separate between what is the intellectual left, and the progressive left though.

For instance, although Fugazi are left, their message isn't entirely despicable, and leaves room in that message for creativity.

I meant modern music... Besides neo-folk (which is pretty cool) and parody songs I don't see a lot of stuff out there. I've been interested in people like Ezra Pound and Yukio Mishima lately because they were far right advocates but also very creative people and artistic geniuses which I think is rare on the right in modern times (although they weren't musicians)

The majority of good musicians DGAF about politics or only care about select views. The most bleeding-heart leftist music is typically garbage with a few exceptions. The same could be said about far-right neo-nazi music.

Morrissey is secretly pretty redpilled btw.

Thanks, I only found out recently that Morrisey has a lot of nationalist tendencies which is awesome cause I've always loved The Smiths.

He had this to say about Brexit (in case you haven't seen it:

“The (Brexit) result was magnificent! It was a shock to hear how the BBC persistently denigrated everyone who voted to leave. They have managed to accuse, judge and convict the majority as racist, drunk and irresponsible. On the other hand I did not hear the BBC question the decision of Remain voters. These news teams are exactly the same as Fox and CNN in that they all depend on public stupidity in order to create their own myth of reality. Watch them at your peril!”

He also expressed sympathy for Nigel Farage:

“I like Nigel Farage a great deal. His views are quite logical — especially where Europe is concerned.”

I once shared this pic on facebook and now everyone thinks I'm a Nazi.

I agree that the majority of artists who are very passionate about politics and make it part of their music are shit, but I was talking about the fact that most artists have made some sort of statement at some point showing that they are left leaning, while the opposite rarely ever happens

>Imblying Megadeth, Iron Maiden, and Ted Nugent were not commercial successes

Why are artists lefties
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I don't hate music, I hate most musicians. Especially the ones who call themselves "artists" when they have a team of 10 people writing their shitty songs, another 5 tuning their shit voice to make it sound passable, and 50 to keep their make-up, fake tits, and music videos looking good and animated.
Music uses to be about a guy sitting in his room writting lyrics, or a band in their rehearsal station coming up with a tune for their new song that they like.

People wonder why Beck won the award instead of beyonce a few years back. It's because beck wrote his own music, and played damn near every instrument in the album himself. People like beck are artists. People like beyonce are false idols.

He's a PETA-tier vegetarian faggot but I love that guy
Like the song Bengali in Platforms

>Bengali in platforms
>He only wants to embrace your culture
>And to be your friend forever
>Bengali, Bengali
>Oh, shelve your Western plans
>And understand
>That life is hard enough when you belong here

It's interesting you bring this up. As a classical musician who makes a living performing in orchestra's for symphony's, opera's, etc it's interesting that most of the musicians in classical music are conservative.

"Modern" music is all liberal because electronics and computer programs produce, edit, and create the music. Anyone who has played a classical instrument while also having recorded music in a studio and is functional in programs like Logic Pro will tell you that it is infinitely easier to create music on a computer than slave away over a violin for hours a day to get better.

In other words, modern leftist musicians are spoiled and don't know the work it takes to make it without technology propping them up. Ariana grande could not fill an opera hall without the use of a microphone. People say her voice is "powerful", but place her on stage and ask her to sing over a 100 piece orchestra without a microphone and her voice would dissipate quite quickly. This is just one example.

Every great classical musician, by today's standard, would have been staunchly conservative. Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart were all devout Roman Catholics. Verdi was Christian but actually supported the people's revolution in Italy during the time of a corrupt government, and as I do not know the political ideology of that corrupt government, I cannot say with any great certainty he would have been conservative (though of course his Operatic characters and themes of the heart suggest he was). Likewise Puccini was also Christian and conservative by most counts.

I am not entirely convinced you could label Wagner as a "conservative" in the truest sense. Most of his life he was an confused and only near the end did he become a Christian, or claim to be one. This confusion shows through his music and characters (I'm thinking Siegfried, Parsifal, and tannhauser). He may also have been a very bad man. But as a mythopoetic poet he is beyond compare.

Because they want to get famous, you won't get famous when you are not a white knight full blown Leftists

>why is it that the majority of good musicians are leftists?

They're children that never had to grow up.

Yes! I was gonna share that song too. I hate the vegetarian faggotry but his racism makes up for it and the guy has balls too he isn't afraid to show his full power

So to summarize, "modern" is just another word for without dignity or subtlety. Practice and skill in a medium is revealed in art. What you would call "artists" today are really entertainers using music as the entertainment. This I why it can be "fun" to go to a rock concert but it is not spiritually or intellectually fulfilling as say, an orchestra or Opera house. Of course you music understand in the classical days people were much more educated musically than they are now and can actually appreciate these older works. In fact they had no choice because that's all their was. The modern lefty is still a spoiled brat as a musician and probably somewhere in the back of their mind know they aren't as talented as everyone thinks, I think they have guilt and that's why they cling to these silly ideologies like feminism, socialism, etc. but they are not true "artists" in the strictest sense of the word. To actually work at your craft for your living, you would never think everyone should be equal and not have to work for things in life. The modern artist doesn't understand this because they aren't working for their craft at all really.

nice insight

Morrissey is blue pilled as fuck.

>Tfw love stuff like Boards Of Canada, Aphex Twin and My Bloody Valentine but you're also making a lot of sense

I have a hard time separating politics and music because I'm passionate about both... Sucks.

>It's a lonely life being in love with music and also being passionate about far-right politics. Thoughts?

Commercial success in music is largely ruled by gatekeepers, it's less so today but it's fairly closed off still.

The gatekeepers are liberal.

Add to that a general uncertainty of future in music, skill not correlating with success, and I think most right wing people would keep it as a hobby and not invest their career into it.

That said there's really no reason for this correlation. It's like how enviro nuts from the left claimed the mantle of "environmentalism" even as they're internally contradictory on points like "Global Warming is the biggest problem today, but I won't have nuclear energy because that word scares me".
Being a conservationist was a conservative viewpoint. National parks and wildlife preservation (with hunting as part of keeping the ecosystem balanced) was and in many ways is still conservative (not a lot of liberal hunters).

Likewise classical music, opera and theatre usually skew right wing, because that's where the money is. Rich people like to get dressed up and attend "the arts".

Why do liberals hate classical music and art? Why don't they donate more money to art?

Did we learn something today?

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Because they're all rich and don't have to deal with the real world.

They tend to be more left-leaning on a personal level because there are more left-leaning views that are anti-authoritarian than right-leaning views.

I can't think off the top of my head any band/musician that I like that is full-blown SJW other than Atari Teenage Riot. If you can think of any, please let me know so i can add them to my blacklist ;-)

Most of them would sympathize with things like feminism desu and that can be a pretty authoritarian ideology a lot of times

>He also expressed sympathy for Nigel Farage:
>“I like Nigel Farage a great deal. His views are quite logical — especially where Europe is concerned.”

There are plenty of former liberal "rebels" turned conservative (and thus shunned).

Listen to John Cleese talk about London not being english anymore. It's not a controversial view, liberals will gladly tell you about whites becoming a minority and about the "diversity" takeover - until you suggest that means the local culture is dying. Then they freak out because their wires are crossed.

You also had a few celebs express disbelief or uncertainty about the tranny issue, until the media masters put forward what the Right Opinion should be.

Or take the blowback over SJW mentality by liberal comedians. Even lukewarm jew Jerry Seinfeld said it was getting ridiculous and got promptly character assassinated for it in the news.

Stealth conservatives like Jay Leno and Arnold have been present a long time but are taken to be outliers and used to be counted as "still liberal when it comes to social issues" until those people were rewritten as traitors to The Cause.

The right believes in objective truths. Music can be judged on an objective basis. Objectively, your taste is shit.

>the majority of good musicians are leftists?

The majority of famous musicians are leftists.
Being famous != being good.

Because the (((industry))) is self congratulatory, and hires only people it approves of or can use regardless of actual talent.

Feminism isn't just some one-dimensional ideology, though. There are feminists who soley want freedom to abort their bastard children, to fuck whoever they want, and to be whatever they want. There's nothing authoritarian about that.

Which bands/artists do you know of that sympathize with authoritarian feminism?

I guess you're right. It's a shame that it has to be like this though... People see right-wing people as dull and boring but I think there is nothing more exciting than the romance, heroism and passion of nationalism. It's also arguably the most rebellious and anti-establishment political position you can have these days. I think when they call the right dull they are thinking of cuckservatives though

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Breeds degeneracy. Being a slut is fine and legal but is never something to be encouraged. Women cannot handle that responsibility as they are basically children in their current form.

Pretty sure these fuckers and the other musicians they associate with are redpilled to shit

Just depends upon your definition of "good music"

Yes, but I was making a point on how bands/artists tend to choose political positions that are anti-authoritarian. The Liberal Left has been traditionally seen as less authoritarian than the Right, hence why bands/musicians tend to have those kind of political views.

Be sure to take notice how I say Liberal Left and not simply Left.

>Music can be judged on an objective basis.

you are a total fucking idiot if you think this is true. You are objectively stupid if you believe this.

I think that the liberal left is actually more authoritarian than the conservative right in America. The American right as far as I know just wants the government out of their lives while the left wants to steal from the rich to give to the poor which is authoritarian

One guess is that these bands could have been anybody. There is a symbiotic relationship between a subculture and the music of that subculture. There was a vacuum for identity for undiagnosed dyslexic trainwrecks that tumbled into crime and degeneracy. They needed a soundtrack. Boom, you have the clash. We are one possible outcome. We're the ones with CCR and Marvin Gaye.

The second part to that guess is that good artists are generally terrible at everything else in life. Their creative output being the only redeeming factor. The fact that the subject matter may reflect the hell that they live in could be a conductor to relate to for edgy little genetic cul-de-sacs that should have been purged but instead are just here with dyed hair and anything else to make them feel like a real person. That's how I'd explain some of the music I listen to. I also like old blues because I love the sound of niggers in pain. Really is quite a beautiful thing.

Another guess may be that the only eccentric patrons were exiled for their ideas and had a good taste or influential circle, with which to share his taste.

One thing I'd like to remind you: Being anti-establishment should only ever mean you're pro-something else.

100% I believe this. Tone, rhythm, composition, how "tight" musicians are - all quantifiable. Music is dead. Nothing more than lighting from here on out. As a form of artistry? Pfffft, suck a shotty, lad.

Bullshit. Music doesn't have to be "tight" to sound good... In fact, it can sound more beautiful and add to the emotion if there is conflict in the sounds. It's just a different flavor... Saying the music you like is objectively better than others is like saying the way you like to eat your steaks is objectively the best. Absurd.

The smarter people lean left dude, what's there to be surprised about? Look at all the retards with below average IQ that voted for trump, we can just tell because they come shitty states like Florida, Ohio, etc

Well anyone can make your fav shitty dish of spaghetti music then. There is no musicianship inherent to what you're describing. If something sounds good and they play good music, they'll do it.

Why does that matter though? Personally, I think the most important thing to make me consider a music piece as good is originality... Judging by your comments I feel like you're not a fan of challenging and original music since you have such a restrictive view of what "good" music is

music is degenerate

Yeah mate, have that original sound while you larp with a spectrogram. At this point I feel like I'm insulting a busker in Lisbon

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There is a difference between a virtuous musician and a good musician.

>not even spain

Brazil is your fault

> that feel when like industrial, the leftiest of genres, while being right-winger

brazil was shittier before we came in there

also look up aljubarrota battle faggot

>got gf
>got nice job
>got nice apartment
>got friends
>got money
>6 feet
>fit
>all I want is a united scandinavia

These people around me. How can they be so careless.