Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=zZqVOFSYRWI
youtube.com/watch?v=flWTWG-gTT4
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

youtube.com/watch?v=zZqVOFSYRWI

Hurr durr, let's chase out all the rich people and devour the middle class so crackheads and trailerpark trash can get their fix.

Is that what you think communism is?

Hi Spainbro.

Death to capitalism!

The autists are also considering raiding /his/

Is this what you think a raid is?

Will /leftypol/ ever get sick of losing???

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Hi comrade

Considering the fact that they announce it to be a success back on their board every single time they make a new one, I think they get off from it

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AHI TE MUERAS DE UNA PUTA VEZ HIJO DE LA GRAN PUTA CON TUS THREADS DE MIERDA SOBRE EL COMUNISMO DE LOS HUEVOS, GILIPOLLAS.

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Welcome to Sup Forums
You will be shouted down by the right wing autists for interfering with their hugboxing.

Be warned!

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The only good communist is a dead one

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I'm interested in commununism, but I am also a Muslim. Islam teaches me to place no laws above the law of the Qu'ran. I recognize this already refutes capitalist laws and private property, but what about Communism? Can I be a Muslim as well as a Communist?

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>commies

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Pic related should give you an answer

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>"From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

How sheltered and deluded do you have to be to believe this has a chance of working with actual humans?

you deny that the only means of producing humans is a womans womb?

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I love pinkos
used to be one as a matter of fact

This looks a bit gay.

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Really makes me laugh when classcucks think that by advocating for Socialism, you are saying that Capitalism is all bad and always has been bad and should be stopped because it is evil. As if any decent political theory of history would be so moralistic.

Capitalism rapidly developed the productive forces, invented thousands of amazing tools and gadgets, spurred hugely progressive social, political and legal changes, and generally increased the quality of life of billions of people.

Capitalism, however, is fettering the development of the productive forces any further at this point. We could fully automated huge swathes of production, reduce the working week to 2 days - but under capitalism such underemployment would destroy the economy. We could do so much more with our resources, we have the technology to do so much more, than Capitalism can really allow. We could move to green fuel, but interests in the oil industry bar that. We could cure millions of people of diseases for a stupidly low cost, but the pharmaceutical industry won't allow it. You'd have to be mad to imply that suffering doesn't occur needlessly under capitalism; we live in a world where some people die from eating too much, and some die from not eating enough. Our distribution systems could be improved. The internet has drawn the question of Capitalist property law into the spotlight - and now 3D printing will make matters more complicated; do the laws of Capitalism really make sense with our technological capabilities anymore?

Political and economic systems develop out of previous ones, through a process of revolutions, when the old system stops being the most useful way to do things anymore. It's no insult to Capitalism, really - it had it's time. It did great things. Now it's in its death throes, and it has stopped working efficiently. Like all social systems, it won't last forever.

leftism is a mental illness

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Communism is fucking cancer

America and the entire world will be RED.

youtube.com/watch?v=flWTWG-gTT4

So true
I love to openly laugh at pinkos as they browse the web on their iphones while drinking their starcucks latte and eating their hipster whole foods market grub all the while typing out on their phone: "Fuck Capitalism!"

what is the means of producing more humans and why arent any communists proposing to sieze therm?

paccлaбитьcя тoвapищ

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>google translator

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>mfw commiecucks literally worship someone who was payed by German ultra-capitalists to destroy a country and make it non-competitive against Germany

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super soviet commie bump

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> So true
> Then completely fails to understand the post

it was a tl;dr desu senpai

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t. spooked porky

>unironically recommending Chomsky and Zizek
Top kek, the Commies don't even have good taste in their own fucking literature

Hey look its the same spaniard plebbit fag who bumps his own thread

Sagitarius is a good sign

>No Commie General during fridays, saturdays, sundays, holidays


what can this mean

This. Marx sang praises to capitalism, and was super inspired by the French Revolution, even as he called it a bourgeois revolution.

Liberalism is simply the necessary stepping stone to socialism, Socialism doesn't simply negate it, but fulfills its parole of liberty, equality and fraternity by removing its contradictions. Liberalism led to the dominance of the industrial capitalist "middle class", socialism is the dominance of the proletariat.

Indeed, Socialism is the logical conclusion of classical liberalism.

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> 4 tiny paragraphs
> tl;dr

This explains a lot of the opinions found on Sup Forums

>expecting retarded Sup Forumsacks to actually consider leftist theory
The fact that /lit/ is the only board with a genuine leftist population should speak enough for this site desu.

When will Sup Forums realize that the chief goal of socialism is to eliminate the cuckoldery inherent in the economic relationship between the boss and the worker? How can Sup Forums support an economic system which guarantees and enforces relationships of cuckoldery? When will Sup Forums take the redpill, lay off the autistic rage, break the conditioning and realize that the establishment of a socialist society is the only way for man to have any dignity?

I prefer math.

/r/mentalretardation is that way ->>

>is to eliminate the cuckoldery inherent in the economic relationship between the worker and the boss?
By eliminating multiple bosses and replacing them by a single government and then through magic the state would just go poof and disappear? Not really buying into this magic trick considering the fact that it has failed every single fucking time it has been tried.

Reminder that commietards don't believe in discourse, only silencing better ideas

They don't exclude each other... there is time to read and for math too comrade.

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What he meant is that he prefers something that is based in verifiable truth over some garbage a retard leeching off of his best friend's father wrote while pursuing his hobby.

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>break the conditioning
>cuckoldry
>redpill

When you freaks attempt to use stormfag made Sup Forums language to promote your faggotry it's so fucking cringeworthy it almost makes me shiver. If you keep stealing memes and copying the jargon of the opposition it just makes you seem weak, uncreative and stupid. It also seems like you're being condescending to the people you're trying to convince.

/leftypol/'s idea of success is making Sup Forumsacks hate commies more everyday

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>non-statist libertarian socialism doesn't exist
>Revolutionary Catalonia wasn't a thing
>every single socialist movement is Marxist-Leninist because I say so

BAAAAHAHAHA!!! fucking loser.. wrong board faggot

saged

You can speak Spanish. Why don't you move to Venezuela?

Strawman

the OP says "This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism". I don't care about each subspecies of filthy communist that's still out there, but at least be more consistent here when you're attempting a coordinated raid

Why didn't communism work then? Was it too early or something?

>political ideas can be mental illness
Hi Brezhnev

Not an argument.

Certainly lasted long, didn't it. For example the Byzantine Empire lasted over 1100 years, while for Communist movements there are barely (if any) movements that have lasted over 100. I am not even expecting it to last as long as the Byzantines, but being unable to even get close to the average life expectancy of a country is a bit concerning.

Because if they didn't the entire board would get flooded by right wing shitposts like this thread does.

Notice that degenerate socialism is only present on boards that ban people for not posting about socialism