Christians of Sup Forums, how do you deal with keeping your faith but still being redpilled?
I was raised Christian, although I haven't been to church in six or eight years, I still believe in God and Jesus. But at the same time, I buy into all the racist memes on Sup Forums. I hate Jews. But the bible says Jews are the chosen people, and Jesus was a Jew.
I often fantasize about going to Jerusalem in another crusade with my white Christian brothers and retaking the holy city in bloody conquest. I don't think the Holocaust happened, but I want it to happen again. I hate niggers and Muslims and if I had a button that could kill them all I'd press it instantly.
And despite all this, I feel I am not doing anything wrong. I feel this is for the good of humanity, maybe even God's own desire that I am acting out? Or that maybe Christian teachings were originally intended this way (see the crusdades) but have been warped recently to push an agenda? The only thing I feel is kind of wrong is that I sometimes get caught up into the Kek worship, though not often.
Am I going to hell? Anyone else deal with these problems? Am I wrong? Should I talk to these things with a preacher?
I've been having trouble sleeping and have terrible anxiety at night as I lose more and more of my faith and feel like I am becoming a terrible person.
Someone tell me it's going got be O.K.
Lincoln Peterson
Being redpilled is about accepting the truth, and guess what? Christianity is true, and the whole world is doing everything it can to run away from God. It doesn't matter what you believe or anyone else, it doesn't matter what you feel or where you go with yourself, all the psychedelics and drugs in the world won't be able to hide your ass from God and his wrath.
Ethan Thompson
Modern Jews are not the "chosen people." Jews were chosen by God, but they broke his covenant time and time again. God Himself became incarnate and revealed Himself to them and they rejected and crucified him. They rejected the New Covenant in His blood and cursed themselves and their descendants by saying "Let his blood be upon us and our children." God cut them off from the tree of life and grafted in the gentiles.
Nolan Lopez
But can God accept me if I am filled with this hate?
Are we really all his children?
According to the bible I should not throw stones or pass judgement, but should I sit by as my country and the civilization my ancestors built is taken from me and destroyed? As my white brothers are discarded and our women raped?
I believe in Jesus and accept God, so does that mean I must accept the destruction of all I care about?
Elijah Sullivan
read The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit by E. Michael Jones
Christian male here. I can tell you're troubled. Your hate is eating you up, it seems. 1. No, we are not all His children. Some vessels are made for destruction. Rom 9:22 2. But He does want everyone to come to Him. 3. You can accept Jesus into your heart but should be bearing some Fruit of the Spirit in your life: love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control Gal 5:22 4. Picture yourself in Italy circa year 375. You can see your country/empire being overrun, but you still have to make a life for yourself and your family.
Empires come and go. You have a life to live. Live it.
Pray. I'll pray for you. Seek Him out in your life.
John Morris
The logical conclusion of humanity is complete atheism. Enjoy posting your ebin fedora memes while you still can because once religion finally fucks off and dies, it's over buddy.
Liam Gonzalez
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You are a papist dog , the only way is hell
Grayson Campbell
>how do you deal with keeping your faith but still being redpilled? Deal? That's not how I roll. No more compromises.
Jaxon Thompson
Babylon = Multiculturalism = Evil
See pic related AKA the Harlot and her abominations = US mongrels.
Jaxson Jenkins
BTW, I'm not red pilled, I'm the SAUCE
Lincoln Bell
>(((Christians))) >being redpilled
oxymoron, moron
Adam Cook
>Christcuckoldry 2spooky4pol
Eli Myers
>Australia.
Enjoy having your family and your friends killed by emus everyday of the year, my friend.
William Bell
>logical conclusion of humanity is complete atheism
There's no point to life. All the universe will stop.
Aaron Martin
>Believe in the Ten Commandments >Worship the Torah at the alter lead by a community appointed religious leader >Jesus wants to save all the races
Or
>Jesus was a Levantine not a Hebrew, either way, goy, semites back then looked white enough to pass as European. >We wuz Israelites n shit
Josiah Hughes
CRUSADE?
WE START WITH THE BEAST AND THE WHORE THAT SITS UPON IT.
David Ward
If you can't contribute to a thread, and all you do is make "Le funny memes" and shitposts, it would probably be more correct for you to go back to /x/.
Benjamin Phillips
Problem is it's not going to fuck off and die. The world is becoming more religious, not less. It is we the atheists who are going to be disappearing.
Leo Wright
The purpose over life is self-overcoming.
Joshua Thompson
Too bad the crusaders were pagans. Most were a weird mix between Christian and pagan. But that doesn't matter does it
DEUS VULT
Tyler Torres
You seem to be a little confused. This will straighten you out on Christian doctrine. Also, sanderson1611 is the based jewtube channel. youtube.com/shared?ci=metD30Uip9s
Hunter Rogers
Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization
Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven
When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...
... he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical
Sup Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!
Dylan Walker
That's because the world is increasingly infested by shitskins and whites are too cucked by Christian morality to cleanse it.
Liam Nguyen
Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"
Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"
But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.
Evan Robinson
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!
That is not going to fly.
Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".
Brandon Bennett
>He hasn't actually tried to investigate the paranormal
Topkek you're not much of scientists are you.
Thomas Peterson
Until you realize that people are not logical all the time, and likely never will be. There is also an ineffable quality to life and consciousness that will always inspire us to look for the divine in it. We will likely not find the answer to it in our lifetime. Religion (Christianity in my case) adds more to the experience of consciousness and my place in the cosmos than being the bitter angry atheist that wants to "make religion obsolete" that I was for most of my life. I often wonder if I was like that because I wanted other people to be as miserable as me. Maybe you are different but the tone of your post seems angry. Maybe it is just earnestness, hard to tell through text though. I found that I am a better person through going to church, even if I am not sure I believe the ethics of it have made me happier and a nicer person. Maybe I need crutch, and you can call me out on that if you wish, but it has made my life better in ways that I cannot begin to list off
.t ex-atheist now Catholic.
Daniel Wilson
Thank you, these helped. I will lessen my hatred, and try to live my life. There's no going back once you've been here long enough, but I can try to not let it consume my life.
At the same time, if the injustices continue and Western society decides to stand up, I will stand beside them.
Tyler Kelly
>Very old pasta.
Try again, Panama. This is just getting sad now.
Parker Fisher
Not correct. Theres no scripture that says god revoked his promises to israel, although it is contentious who really is israel now. Revelation reveals that israel will exist as an endgame player and a new temple will be built in jerusalem. Tl;dr no, israels destiny is different from the church
Chase Gutierrez
>I will lessen my hatred You're doing it wrong.
Adrian Myers
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Dylan Garcia
Red pilled. Kek. Kek Kek
You can't see past your own hatred far enough to examine why the world is the way it is. That overly-used meme couldn't apply to you less.
Kek Kek
Grayson Powell
>I-i-its a pasta >Hahaha BTFO
No on has been able to refute it, and that is why it has stayed a pasta, weed nigger.
Jason Cooper
Christians still think God is real? Lol
Kevin Reyes
The bible is pretty red pilled. The old testament is full of redpills including racial purity, genocide, roles of women and men, and so on. Study the scripture in depth, you will find it is quite literal in its message.
Isaac Gray
what do you mean
Leo Parker
>claims to be 'redpilled' but still uses 'redpill' unironically
wew lad
Leo Roberts
Everyone is religious whether they understand it consciously or not. We all worship something without understanding it, even the athiest fags have their gods. Although, with this line of reasoning, they would just point their fingers and accuse projection against a person, yet if you were to have a few hours long conversation with an athiest, most would turn out to be Christians by default. You are just a person who took the next step into self awareness.
Zachary Clark
>Christians still think God is real? Lol You laugh because you're a jew or because you don't believe in God? Someone is asking a serious question and seems to be in actual pain and your response is to laugh. dafug is wrong with you?
Parker Collins
>Jews are the chosen people
>He hasn't read Adversus Judaeos.
Brayden Scott
Ive been struggling with being happy. The book say to be happy in salvation, rejoice on the Lord, etc However, after the Lord opened my eyes to all the wicked things going on in this world, how could I possibly be happy? I am a grump by nature, and although ive been much better after coming to the Lord, I am still this way.
Samuel Wilson
My friend, the belief that mass atheism, will somehow make everything better is a delusional and downright nihilistic one. A major reason behind today's degeneracy, is atheism. Atheists keep on pushing to legalize and allow horrible things. Their myopic, nihilistic view causes them to embrace degenerate activities, to make up for their lack of belief in anything greater. Mindless hedonism, premarital sex, an obscene focus on the material, are all things atheists have in common with one another. And that isn't even taking into account, the sheer amount of hatred and loathing they hold for all views not their own. They desire for nobody else to think differently from themselves, or to believe in anything aside from their twisted viewpoint on life. So, my friend, I would advise that you take a closer look at your own beliefs, before condemning the beliefs of others.
Angel White
>I was raised Christian, although I haven't been to church in six or eight years, I still believe in God and Jesus. But at the same time, I buy into all the racist memes on Sup Forums. I hate Jews. But the bible says Jews are the chosen people, and Jesus was a Jew.
Stop worrying about what other people think/do. Whichever Christian denomination you belong to, look into its practices and disciplines. Begin taking small steps toward aligning your actions with the disciplines. Ask God to help you. Once in the morning; throughout the day. Review at night. Repeat. It will come. In order to Deus Vult, one must first Deus.
Julian Evans
Holy fuck, christcucks BTFO
Brody Hughes
>He's still stuck in the Christian phase
Volkish Paganism / positive Christianity is the true redpill. The European collective unconscious is not present in the Bible. The protestant reofratmion doomed us into and eventual oath into crypto-judaism. (Although it started as a Reformation against crypto Judaism)
Andrew Ward
Being redpilled doesn't mean hating everyone else.
Righteous anger at innocents being murdered and our holy sites being desecrated isn't hate.
Rhodesia wasn't a nation ruled by hate. The whites in power just knew that they were vastly more capable of leading a nation, and infinitely more suited to creating prosperity than the native population.
Cleanse your hate, the true power is not in hating your enemy. But in truly loving them even as you regretfully need to remove the devastation that is their existence.
Dylan Morales
The only thing that makes it impossible to be a polack and a christian is racial identity, according to the bible races don't matter ( this doesn't mean that we should accept diversity, or that a nation can't remain white)
what do my fellow christians think about this?
Jose Harris
The reason for this is that our modern atheists aren't atheistic enough. They still assign human life a special value despite their lack of conscious belief in a soul, they still believe in free will. In truth humans are but a product of their material makings, and their actions are but a product of this. It is for this reason that when you reach a certain level of atheism you realize the Aryan race IS the master-race, and the rest of humanity are dead weights keeping us down. And now we can either sever the fat or let all of civilization rot in the hands of useless niggers.
Hate is sacred.
Ryan Sullivan
Tell that to babylon
Colton Lewis
Hey user, I'm not a christian but I had this discussion with another Sup Forums user.
Never forget that christianity and what is stands for also implies the responsibility you have, you need to be fruitful and go forth and multiply. What if there is a lot set up against you to multiply? It's all fine and dandy to give your belongings, yours only, but you can't force faith on other people, and you can't give other people's possession away. Same goes for giving your life. So, you can't force your wife into charity or give her shirt, it's not yours to give, and you can't make a martyr out of her. People still have their own choice.
In that sense, our politicians have committed a huge betrayal, by giving away our future, and especially in Europe with the massive immigration in-country and lack of providing a solution for those people out-of-country. You can't drag everyone else with you into martyrdom. this is why Jesus also said, I think, that it's much easier for a poor person to enter the kingdom of God or something, they don't have the responsibility that a noble or a lord would have. Okay, cool pal, you want to get martyred and not fight the sarracenes but all your serfs kind of count on you to save their asses, so you have to step up. That kind of thing, if you see what I mean.
Anyway, if you want help, read saint augustine on the just war.
Lucas Green
Being aware of the truth in the world doesn't mean you just choose and defend one delusion over another.
Also, why do you hate? Have you ever kept asking yourself that past the point where you've reached a conclusion that you think is reasonable? Have you ever kept asking why the conditions exist in the world that produce behaviors that you abhor? Have you ever asked yourself why you abhor those behaviors at all? You're looking for answers, but you're trying to fit reason into the same box as the delusion you've chosen to subscribe to. You need to extend your thought process outside of what you're comfortable with and be prepared to come to realizations that make you uncomfortable.
Joseph Collins
Jesus says those who are saved are not of the world, but part of his kingdom.
Isaiah Miller
I'm atheist. What or whom do I worship?
James Gonzalez
Considering that this is very old pasta, that's been used in every thread discussing this topic? No, "Christcucks", have not been BTFO'ed
Oliver Myers
Sup Forumslacks may as well convert to Jews, there is nothing for them in the degenerate permissivism that permeates the Gospel thanks to Jesus "do not resist evil" Christ
Adam Flores
>But the bible says Jews are the chosen people,
So, you haven't read the bible? lmfao
Anthony Ramirez
Yourself.
Owen Bailey
what makes me feel bad for you faggots on the right is that you let yourselves be overcome by your hatred instead of sticking to logic and reason
you want to be racist? that's fine, use statistics to argue for whatever that means for you. don't just hate people arbitrarily out of your mixture of fear and hate.
at that point you are no better than the liberals you despise whom give into their emotions.
Cameron Phillips
The Bible is an extremely old pasta, yet you are here, sucking Jesus' cock
Hate, has never benefited anyone, when it is directed at everyone else and not at the enemy. We shuodln't focus on killing each other, we should focus on taking out the mudslimes, the niggers and the kikes. The kikes have won, because of the fact that they have a belief in a certain power unifying them. A very dark power, but still a power, and until we can once again unite against a common foe, ((they'll)) keep breaking us down at every turn. Beliefs, unify people to fight against common threats, and is why they are so needed.
Matthew Long
Where's the refutation to it, nigger?
Hunter Rogers
all politics are based on emotion
the only reason someone would care about unga boongas committing rape and murder is the fact that someone they love may get hurt
there are plenty of liberals that know that blacks and muslims are dangerous
Austin Rivera
>We shuodln't focus on killing each other, we should focus on taking out the mudslimes, the niggers That's exactly what I'm saying we should do. But Christian morality is holding back in this effort and as such we should abandon it in the interests of our own self-preservation.
>and the kikes On the contrary we should assimilate them into our own race rather than annihilate them.
James Price
What denomination are you? Roman Catholic here. If your curious about christianity's role in society i suggest you check out G.K. Chesterton he has some good philosophy on the subject, also FR. Charles Coughlin, an American Catholic priest, look him up on youtube and watch the first video that comes up, its like 2 min, tell me what you think.
>inb4 Popecuck
Alexander Lewis
I guess Sup Forums really is a Christian board.
Hunter Martinez
I think that you are an absolutely retarded child, who somehow managed to migrate from /r/eddit, onto Sup Forums, and dosen't know how to formulate a proper arguement or sentence. If you wish to engage in intelligent discourse, you must prove that you have the necessary intellect to do so, which as you've so proven, you clearly lack.
Aiden Morgan
> On the contrary we should assimilate them into our own race rather than annihilate them.
dozens of countries have tried it, jews are just too tribal to allow that
Just send them to Israel desu
Jaxon Myers
kek
I am one of the oldest oldfags around in Sup Forums
did people really forget the "panama in charge of sticky" thread during the polocaust?
Gavin Walker
You confuse atheism and nihilism, and I'm not convinced you can define either. I don't need a god to tell me how to live. I think it's my responsibility as a human being to help others. I know not to kill, lie or steal without official doctrine. I live an immaterial life in harmony with nature - as far as I can muster, anyway. I have sex as often as I can, safely, with consenting partners, and neither my or their value is decreased in the process. I don't hate all views that don't agree with mine, but I pity those who shut out reason in favor of fear-based theology. Tremendous hatred comes from opposing religious views, and it's spread around the world. I think you'll actually find that atheists have fewer reasons to hate - well, everyone. I pity you, but you are the one who hates me. I only want people to open their minds.
Landon Torres
They didn't try hard enough.
We need to fuck them and when we're own Judeo-Aryan race the tribal identities of Jews are meaningless.
Jason Carter
The only country that has successfully assimilated jews are the Chinese, Jews don't want to assimilate, never have never will. Look into Talmudic Judaism
Leo Wright
There's is no one place or God people worship when they call themselves athiest. Most athiests don't understand that they already worship God through their moral code. The idea that morality is genetic is only true in terms of the collective of unconscious but for the most part out ethics origante from the elders of our society and what they teach us to follow. I'd suggest you read into evolutionary psychology on this one.
The only true "athiest" that can exist are people who score incredibly high on the dark triadic personality traits. Like psychopathincapable or narcissists. These are people incapable of empathy and therefore can receive only very littler of this "eldar code". The traditional terms of propoganda actually had positive connotations to it. A propogandist was typically the elder of a tribe or society whose knowledge was handed down and spread as the ultimatum of knowledge, thence keeping society intact. That's why I say most athiests are just dispirited Christians , because they way they interact with others is Christian. Their moral codes are mostly Christian. Prayer according to official church doctrine (Catholicism) is not just clasping your hands together, it is also a manner of being. How you behave in daily life can be considered prayer, because it worships a certain moral modality which originates from Christ.
Jose Morgan
He doesnt say that, since tat would be akin to letting evil win. Resist the right way. Im pretty the passage youre referencing is talking about revenge
Levi Anderson
Eh, well I don't really hate other races or cultures. Although some annoy me very much I try to have patience and understanding. That said, I still don't believe in multi-culturalism. I don't think God does either. If he did multi-culturalism would work. And it doesn't
Lucas Miller
>On the contrary we should assimilate them into our own race rather than annihilate them.
Impossible. The kikes have NEVER, in their thousand years of history assimilated into another culture. They always enter it, and then slowly poison it from within. Until they have complete control over it, and openly have people praising their dark gods in the streets. Either we destroy them, or they destroy us. There is no middle ground.
Owen Richardson
>jews are just too tribal to allow that Take their children, don't let them know that they're jews, there - problem solved.
Asher Richardson
Of course they won't assimilate into another culture. I'm saying they should be assimilated into our race through eugenic breeding.
Parker Long
> Im pretty the passage youre referencing is talking about revenge
and you would be wrong, sooo wrong
Dude, Heaven was promised to the persecuted, to the weak, to the helpless, to the ones evil triumphed over, because this world is of the devil,and HIS kingdom is NOT of this world
Anthony White
Thank you for participating, Belgian user. You can return to drooling and befouling the air around you, now.
Connor Sullivan
They should be exiled on madagascar
Gabriel Nelson
>I am one of the oldest oldfags around in Sup Forums
Considering, how you waste whole minutes, potentially hours of your life, pasting in the same pasta into any and all Christianity discussion threads, when you could be doing more productive things? It seems more like you are just a bored shill, with nothing else to do.
Jackson Cook
>He's not a sedavacantist
Why tho?
Ayden Sanchez
A plurality of them already live in Israel and yet they still to dominate white society. Clearly with our current level of technology exiling them will do no good and we're better off recognizing that Jews are genetically good and should be included in the Aryan race of the future.
Gabriel Sullivan
>Take their children, don't let them know that they're jews, there - problem solved.
if you have enough power to do that to them, why not just ship them with their sand cousins to the Middle East?