MLG #4 Marxist Leninist General - How can capitalists ever compete? edition

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.html

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Daily reminder we leftists have no friends irl (see pic) and, as friendless loosers come here to beg for some little attention.

please be kind. on the other hand, we will not be kind when the REAL revolution finally arrives.

Sage. Begone commie cuck.

you sage because you have no arguments. These MLG Generals are a TOTAL MARXIST Success.

>classless society

>seize means of production
>allow one group to direct said means
>force another group to work
>there are now 2 distinct classes: the rulers and the ruled

>classless society

nice try shit head. your fairy tale bull shit will NOT keep you from paying for The Wall c.2017 btw.

fuck off and start breaking your piggy banks/leaving teeth for the tooth fairy/whoring yourself out to the local donkey show because it's gonna be a big fucking piece of americana and you're footing the bill, faggot.

We marxists LOVE walls

Why do leftists insist on being blind to human nature? There will always be different classes in a society.

>honest question tho
>how do you think Communism could work in Mexico?

Communism would work very erll in Mexico because we have good hardworking people, that would contribute according to their abilities, while taking resources ONLY according to their needs!

Also we would allow and respect the REAL 987 genders.

Nazis watch out!!!

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lol

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>mexican commie
KEK

Have a bump, komrade.

Do you know that there these things called "ID"s on Sup Forums? Everyone knows that that we stopped "raiding" a long time ago. Btw do you know that there these things called "ID"s on Sup Forums? If you want "roast" us than pls make a thread for it on /leftypol/ instead of putting a Sup Forums thread in a dead /leftypol/ thread. Are you this scared of arguing?

lol i fucked it up

This Mexican is just shitposting alone pretending to be a commie but simultaneously attempting to mock commies, this is fucking sad.

Gentle reminder that you need to cast your vote in October!

I voted JCP.

Everyone knows that that we stopped "raiding" a long time ago.

yah, your last "raid" was 12/27/16(Tue)13:01:15

Her eyes are a tad far apart no?

>there will be only one class, the working class
what about the underclass that already exist?

How do you determine social need?

if i am posting alone, then why these threads reach all these responses?

only 68 responses
277 responses
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we are having fun in these threads, me, leftists, rightists, spammers,

I think you are sad, not me.

I'm not a communist, but I always find criticism of Cuba a little unfair in many respects, whatever you say is wrong with it now, it was way, way worse before.

KEK nice trolling Esteban

>whatever you say is wrong with it now, it was way, way worse before.

What does this mean:

Before, when things were way way worse:

a) whores were over $20

or

b) whores were under $20

???

yah, but today's threads have been interrupted by work so they have not developed well.

>whatever you say is wrong with it now, it was way, way worse before.

What does this mean:

Before, when things were way way worse:

a) whores did not gave two arms

or

b) whores did not gave two legs

???

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>How do you determine social need?

the social need or the REAL social need?

do you want a dialectic or an dogmatic answer?

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Dude, the women are the ultimate means of production.

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And, in Cuba, the woman have been siezed!!!

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When the literacy rate for rural Cubans was near nothing, the only profession women had was prostituting themselves to American tourists and the Cuban leader worked with the American Mafia to turn Havana into a western playground?

Also unfortunately, the burden of proof for "hookers were more expensive during batista's reign" is on you mate, because that sounds like horse shit

Wtf I love real socialism now. Are the women owned by the government?

Brb, penis is experiencing inflationary spiral

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This thread has been reported to the proper authorities due to being in of violation the communist control act. Hopefully your time in prison will open your eyes to your evil ideals.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954

yeah, i hear you komrade, and for those Americans that say they prefer a $200 armless legess sex doll over a Cuban Sex worker (Jinetera), because from the economic perspective the doll is a better option because after 10 intercourses the $200 doll will start to pay off; while from the health perspective they set that the doll has no STDs, i say to them:

Cuban jineteras (sex workers) are Doctors, and engineers, so you can have a conversation after sex, while the legless, armless capitalist doll can't hold a conversation, nor can a black or fat American hooker.

Also the STDs in Cuban Jineteras is a non-issue, because Cuba has the most doctors per capita in the world, so after you get a STD you go to a doctor near you.

Capitalism BTFO!!!

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the other day i was reported of making the online revolution, the REAL online revolution, in pijamas.

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>How can capitalists ever compete?
Practical implementation usually

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Wow you autistic 8gag commie neckbeards are still spamming?

Top cringe

sage

This thread makes me sick, I'd rather eat Hilary out and become gender fluit than have anything to do with Communists. You have ruined whole Eastern Europe, and to this day I gotta live in a replica of CoD map just thanks to you and your delusional ideology.

Fucking A.

You mean "crony Capitalism"?

Ruined?

I didn't see any Soviet cities overrun by degenerates and niggers.

Count yourself lucky Czechcuck.

Sex dolls won't claim rape afterwards

checkmate.

Report and sage these threads until op gives up.

user, that was not REAL communism, we need to try again!!!

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

you got me, fucking materialist snake

Because people here are still fucking poor and they are afraid of foreigners and even fucking arabs and niggers avoid these places because of the lack of money. Unemployment assistance here in Hungary is about 100$.

Anyway, GTFO commie, you western people cant imagine what communism looks like.

Last night there was a thread where a US commie whored about fucking cream cheese. His problem was that you can choose from 16 flavours. First world fucking problems, you are just pampered naiv retards.

you do know in a communism society theres no selling of property right?

you do know in a communism society theres no selling of property right?

by communist society you mean a communist society or a REAL communist society

pls explain

communist society acording to marx, which is impossible to aply

>communist society acording to marx

could you pls define?

Marx and Anarchists.

There is no State in a Communist society.

>There is no State in a Communist society.

wroooong

yep, and thats impossible to ocurr
in a communist society state cant exist, if youre gona argue in favor of communism at least learn something

oh and china is like that after deng xia ping implemented capitalist measures, also theres a state there, China is a capitalist economy

>in a communist society state cant exist, if youre gona argue in favor of communism at least learn something

wroooong

>China is a capitalist economy

WRONG

it is not a REAL capitalist economy

Mate, it's apparent you don't know what Communism is...

The is no State in a Communist society. Communists and Anarchists are fighting for the same thing.

if theres a state thats still the socialist fase, to achive communism the state needs to be abolished, but like history said people die in the first fase

China has an export led market economy.

>it is not a REAL capitalist economy
sure thing thats why theres mutinationals are there, thats why the workers are paid, thats why they export for the rest of the world

>Mate, it's apparent you don't know what Communism is...

no, pal. Yo seem to ignore the diffrence between Communism and REAL Communism .

pls educate yourself and come back when you know what you are talking about.

China or REAL China? i can barely decipher what you imply.

Real communism is a condition of statelessness and classlessness.

This is a society where class contradictions have been resolved.

define me real communism then, if you know so much

Calm down Lubos.

>sure thing thats why theres mutinationals are there,

And if in your specific, personal, intimate, particular definition of communism, where the society is communist because there are no multinationals, an ALIEN spaceship of an unknown alien planet arrives, and that alien spaceship happens to be part of an alien multinational, does that communist society cease to be communist because there is now a multinational on the land?

which is impossible to happen, but communsit advocaters are too stupid to realize people have ambitions, failed ideology is what it is

translate that

Hey I remember you from that thread
Have you also noticed the countries that have never had the communist party as the ruling party in it's history, are now the types of people who will want communism?

>Real communism is a condition of statelessness and classlessness.

Real communism or Real AUTHENTIC communism?

China has a market economy. It has followed a developmental model similar to Japan's. It is export driven and dirigiste.

China is not "Socialist", nor is it "Communist".

>translate that

E se em sua definição específica, pessoal, íntima e particular do comunismo, onde a sociedade é comunista porque não há multinacionais, uma nave espacial alienígena de um planeta alienígena desconhecido chega e essa nave alienígena passa a fazer parte de uma multinacional alienígena. Que a sociedade comunista deixa de ser comunista porque existe agora uma multinacional na terra?

now stop avoiding an answer!

social democratics, not communism

>Real communism or Real AUTHENTIC communism?

You are failing to define your distinction.

>China is not "Socialist", nor is it "Communist".

[citation needed]

youre stupid, make that shit more clear,,

You are failing to define Real communism

Ambition?

You mean, people want to create their own exploitative systems?

Why would anyone need to exploit people when production is shared?

not the shity analisis of history from him, the communist manifesto he did, he states communism doesnt have a society

And if in your specific, personal, intimate, particular definition of communism, where the society is communist because there are no multinationals, an ALIEN spaceship of an unknown alien planet arrives, and that alien spaceship happens to be part of an alien multinational, does that communist society cease to be communist because there is now a multinational on the land?

what?