Is atheism a bigger threat than islam?

Is atheism a bigger threat than islam?

>Is atheism a bigger threat than islam?
>atheism: Can't kill but can complain
>islam: Kills all non-believers and bitches at the same time
Your answer, OP. Islam is the bigger threat.

Why would it be? Secular thought without dogmatic religious beliefs can mostly be a good though. As long as they don't fill the gap of dogma with (tumblr)feminism like Steve Shives.

>become atheist because reason or pessimistic reddit use
>become Muslim so head doesn't get cut off
hmm.

If atheism comes under the banner of Communism you should shit yourself because that never ends well. Otherwise, who cares.

I was raised with christian values of tolerance, but rejected the dogma for numerous reasons. I still believe the overall ethic of jesus was pretty good, although the self-sacrifice as instruction is a horrible idea.

I mean, you could argue that Christianity destroyed the Roman Empire, and allowed Europe to whither for hundreds of years, and large parts of the former Empire were conquered and enslaved in the mean time.

(((atheism)))

Many children won't receive any religious education at all. There should be some courses to at least try to turn them into cultural christian. But liberals would oppose even that because they hate their own culture.

>There should be some courses to at least try to turn them into cultural christian.

There's already too many fake Christians. I would rather be the only Christian left on the planet then surrounded by them.

>Atheists are only 3.1% of the population and dont blow themselves up like dummies

>Mudslimes are 23% of the population and do blow themselves up like dummies

They both fucking suck, but Atheists just bitch and moan. Mudslimes will cut your head off

(((atheism))) will do far more harm to culture/people's character then any religion ever will. Kikes push this along with their marxism.

They deny traditional morality and replace it as "sexual freedom", sodomy, beastiality, and the sudden verge of normalizing pedophilia.

They replace it with hedonism. People forget values. They forget the values and traditions that the generations before them had and that helped them survive. Only, and only, Christ killers mock God without fear.

They're not pretending to be Christian though. They openly are not religious. But the Christian values are important nonetheless.

>Sam Harris trying to sound relevant

Fucking lol. Harris was literally wrong about every single thing he's said politically for years--now he's wrong AGAIN about Trump's cabinet picks and the only thing his retarded followers can think to do is put his words in a bad font on a shitty image.

Absolutely laughable. Bottom of the barrel ignorant bullshit. More or less what I'd expect from the Mike Cernovich of atheism.

Yes.

Muslims are an external threat which we can stop.

Atheism is something that rots the soul of a nation and it's culture.

See, as much as I want to agree with your overarching idea. You're arguing against a strawman here. Not all atheists think beastiality and pedophilia are okay, but you're generalizing and acting like all atheists are SJW faglords.

>tfw live in 50% atheist country
>safest country in the world
>everybody who visits says the loves kiwis and our beautiful country
>only western country with the balls to stick it to Israel
>won't extradite based Dotcom cuz fuck you Hollywood kikes
When will christcucks admit they are just tools of the Jews?

Is this your first time "arguing" with a christcuck? Logical fallacies are all they can use, just like kikes.

Your society is shit, your people are cunts, and you'll be extinct before the century is out. Nobody cares about New Zealand.

>a jew being mad about not being hired

I guess when they aren't making money they have to point out every fault they can so that people can feel bad about not electing the option that had THEIR interests at heart.

t. 50% white, highest crime rate in the western world, centre of all degeneracy that has plagued the western world.

Christcucks are beyond deluded.

>Christian Values
Gay marriage and premarital sex is fine by me user

When will (gay)theists and the church both admit they are tools of the jews?

Religion is (((their))) product.
Only acceptable form of theism is deism.

No.

With atheism you lose your soul with islam you lose your head

It has nothing to do with religion, america's education system single-handedly created this board of retards who can't argue without them

>atheist disagrees with you
>internet argument

>islam disagrees with you
>suicide bomber

gee boss dunno

Yes. Atheism is the cause of all destructive behaviors of society - promiscuity, homosexuality, feminism, etc.. When Islam is in your face with explosions, atheism is the new behind the curtain a virus slowly destroying until nothing left.

Christianity might not be as cancer as Islam, but christcucks are cancer nonetheless.

>Secular thought without dogmatic religious beliefs can mostly be a good though.

no, it's bad. you're not thinking this through. a severe lack of virtue that goes as far as rejecting God and his position as the highest ideal you could possibly imagine as a human being is bad because it results in spiritual emptiness, emotionally threatening peril and retarded fedora-tier hyperrationality which should quite frankly be fucking outlawed. it's when you see yourself more as a robot rather than a human being. it's fucking disgusting and I hope all atheist cucks change their ways asap.

plus, Molyneux mentioned that they replaced God with Big Government because something needs to fill that void. And that's bad because that will result in being a leftist, communist and system-leeching swine and parasite.

plus, atheists are more likely to be autists and they lack virtue which is why they have less children than christians. that's why they are a bunch of vampires according to Molyneux.

Makes perfect sense. That's what you get if you base your philosophy around a severe lack of something as important as God and his attributes. it's total suicide and they can all watch it crumble as their lives fade into the abyss of existential despair. a life without faith in an afterlife results in being depressed. a life with faith nourishes feelings of transcendental hope and will make you a lot happier and helps being emotionally and spiritually stable.

>I believe in vampires and fairy tales.
k

>what are allegories, metaphors and analogies

signs of autism include not being able to understand metaphoric language.

thanks for proving my point, cuck.

If they are SJW

>The bible is written by those trusted by god to write it
>the accounts of christ are written somewhere before the end of the second century, extremely conservative estimates put it no later than 70 years later
>in the first century AD
>that puts 2 generations between what happened and it being written down, at least
>70 years at least of the telephone game of verbal record
>over the next 20 centuries the book is rewritten in every common language in the world
>whole books are omitted by certain secs
>there are different versions of the same book in the same language for the same religion
>people think it's okay to mess with the book that was entrusted by god's chosen few to right
>people will base all their life choices off this abomination of a book

kekking at christcucks

Atheism is the pawn for the future caliphate of Europe. You wonder why our "Enlightened" Eurobros are all atheist, and at the same time soft, squishy, and passive? There's a correlation. Atheism is essentially religious Anarchy in a sense something else from stronger men takes its place

All societies collapse because they give up God/religion/tradition

Yuri sums it up pretty well

Atheism does lead to individual morality. Individual morality means everyone is right and no one is wrong.

Having lived in the Europe, Africa and now in Pakistan in my experience religion impacts people very differently.
In most of Europe, people who identify themselves as religious are not all that different from people who are not, or at least the differences are not that pronounced.
In Muslim countries for example where religion is serious business, you get a clearer picture of what a society looks like where God is supreme.
Very few atheists in Muslim countries spew the kind of fedora tier arguments you see here. They seem to be more humanist, more forgiving. No one can help us from above so we must strive to make ourselves better and help those around us as well.
At least that's been my experience.
t. paki atheist

>let me project really hard
k

>Sup Forums claims to be "redpilled"
>while being full of christfags
Hmm.

Yes.

Modern Atheism as anything born from Marxism is the true cancer.

>modern atheism
>born from marxism

Christianity ripped off the one true god ODIN. You're all pretenders even more so than atheists. Give up your boring and sad religion. ODIN and the old gods are the only gods worth your praise. All other prayers fall on deaf ears.

Modern Atheism is in bed with Socialism/Anarchism/Communism. Sorry to break your bubble.

You really can't find a redpill Atheist leader without going back thousand of years.

how is modern atheism born from marxism again?

This
almost every fedora tipper unwittingly hints toward commie ideologies
Constantly accosting Christians like their religion shouldn't exist is commie-tier fascism
Instead of focusing only on Islam/scientology/other real shit religions you guys devote way too much time to Christians

It's built in such a way that the state replaces god, it's why so many atheists are unsufferable weenies. T an Atheist.

>It's built in such a way that the state replaces god
how so?

You don't have to be trained to not believe. Christians are the biggest cucks of all. You need the Jews for your fucking prophecies and your own preachers are bringing over Islamists because they're too fucking weak and forgiving to know they are importing their demise.

Praise Odin you weak blooded fucks.

Man the fuck up and face your existential dread like all of us "hyperrationals"

Modern Atheism is not only about no believing in God, this was change during the popularity of Atheism, during the 19th century. This was the period where Atheism start being view as a good thing... Who where the philosophers who achieve this? Nietzche, Nihilist in general and of course... Karl Marx.

Try to compare the modern Atheism to Renassaince Atheism, is a whole different thing.

Trannies, faggots, nu-males. It's basically the religion of degenerates

Well it's not so much built that way as most people feel the need for some sort of higher power in their life so if you strip people of god by aggressively marketing belief in god as idiotic and a lack of belief as the smartest thing around so that people will become atheist because it is sort of a virtue signalling thing, in that they think being an atheist signals to the world that they are super smart, and people love talking themselves up, they'll have to replace their higher power with something else, which naturally becomes the government.

>Modern Atheism is not only about no believing in God
what is it about then?
how did nietzsche achieved that?
>Renassaince Atheism
what's that?

>they'll have to replace their higher power with something else
will they? is it necessary?

>whats that?
>why?
>how?
>when?
Maybe when you stop being 10 you will understand.

>Very few atheists in Muslim countries spew the kind of fedora tier arguments you see here

What are the fedora tier arguments?

Atheism isn't a religion. Jesus on a fucking cross user.

Based Sam

nice answer

almost makes you look like you're spewing bullshit

No and yes, most people are hard wired to need that higher power since it's a great evolutionary tool for organizing ourselves into communities that care for each other, so while factually people don't need it, the vast majority of people instinctively desire it.

>Atheists are shooting up disabled daycare centres, bombing marathons, gunning down beachgoers, massacring cartoonists, murdering concert fans and exploding at sports stadiums

kek

Nah... they just create the two biggest genocide in human history.

Ding ding ding.

Philosphy is for smart people.

Atheism is just an intellectual understanding that there is a good chance there is no higher abstract form of life that influences our lives.

Dumb and poor people fail to understand this and as a result it is not a wise thing to share with them because they end up dipping into hedonism as a substitute to the void of being part of something bigger. Hedonism quickly leads to communism and communism is worse then any plague until we reach anything close to a society that resembles post scarcity.

>Hedonism quickly leads to communism
how so?

the cult of a kike on a stick is by far the biggest threat. it turns people into pussies.

atheism is simply the truth, the black pill. fact is, there is no god and this life is meaningless

if i wasn't an atheist i don't think i could truly appreciate the thought of those big soft paws along with 3 sharp claws digging into my skin as he attentively and rhythmically contracts them.

Atheists are the ones opening the doors of Europe to islam. Atheist is a codeword for dhimmi.

atheim is a much greater threat than islam
you can easily repel islam, it is just a matter of exterminating the believers and removing them from your nation, none of them are born nationals and none of them belong, they are not a threat in the least
atheism on the other hand springs from within the nation and seeds a very deep apathy and a very great desire for selfishness and lack of morality
i don't however think christianity is the solution, for christianity comes forth with a slew of its own problems, what is necessary is some other form of worship that keeps a man going past his own being, something that motivates him beyond what could otherwise be possible when all he was motivated by was material gain and benefit to his own ego
the worship need not be in the literal sense of a god, but rather in the indirect worship in nationalism. you would certainly be motivated to go on fighting beyond the average human if you were to assume your family and your kin to be eradicated if you were to fail fighting, this motivation only being amplified further and further by fellow fighters or additional care for those born to your nation, being amplified yet further by the hate of the opposition, their ideals, and what they'll do to everyone and everything you care for
this worship would be sufficient to make meaning in any mans life. it would make him happy and comfortable fighting and enduring, which is just the thing a well off sovereignty needs

nothing like this is possible under atheism, because even the very idea of saying you're an atheist means you're forfeiting any and all pre-existing religions while saying you know there cannot possibly be a god or any divine beings, such arrogance and foolishness does not spur the necessary ideals for a nationalist, rather it is the idea of a communist

I thought this board hated the idea of "safe spaces" and supported coming to term with hard truths. We are the masters of our own destiny, realizing that God isn't real is the ultimate redpill.

I do not have communist sensibilities but I am very secular and truly do not believe there to be anything waiting for us at the end of the road except maybe a NDE that'll bluepill you

life has no meaning aside from the one you ascribe or choose to accept but there is no objective truth except for the truth that life is meaningless and the universe is a cold dark place that we do not understand and there has been nothing shown, not a single thing I have seen with my eyes or have read or have been swayed by any conversation ever since losing my faith to convince me otherwise. this wasn't some fedora youtube video experience- this was after years of having the same recurring thoughts that one day I was going to die and my parents and everyone that I knew and loved was going to die and there was nothing I could do to stop it. and when I would have these thoughts, a wave of depression would wash over me the same way I would imagine heroin swims through your blood. I can remember having these thoughts as early as 7-8. I completely lost my faith at 16 and I was so depressed after finally accepting into my heart that there was nothing after death that I lost my appetite for 3 days and since I was a fat kid and loved eating and couldn't even salivate when I would smell food I eventually came to understand that this was genuine depression. I even came into my parents room and hugged them with tears in my eyes because I was so sad.

culturally I recognize the usefulness of the societal benefits of christfaggotry but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its faults. a secular society comprised of free-thinking individuals that can respect the personal space, freedom, and privacy of others that can engage in open forum discussion about any topic or issue that way we can work to analyze it from different perspectives and work together to solve it in a rational manner without being hindered by archaic beliefs is what I hope we can someday achieve as a species.

>I thought this board hated the idea of "safe spaces" and supported coming to term with hard truths.

Actually kekked at this.

what good is it to realize god is not real on its own?
you must understand that god is not real in conjunction with this being the very fact that means that we humans must make the world in the image of what was previously thought to be of divine and god-like infatuation

but you must understand, simply because it is true that there is no inherent meaning, we are not here for any reason, there is no purpose to your existence, none of the actions you ever make will ever affect the world or reality in any meaningful way, does not mean you have to subscribe to the thought of nihilism
you cast away man made thoughts and ideologies, yet forgo to mention that nihilism is also a man made ideology, also garnered from the same subjective viewpoint that is humanity. your evolution states your subjective opinions and viewpoints, and none of your evolutionary traits condones the idea of nihilism, why else would you eat when you are hungry and sleep when you are tired? evolutionary nihilism would mean you cast aside these pitiful thoughts of body and instead follow the utter rational that you need not do these things for your existence is pointless. these feelings are why you can and must strive for more than nihilism
it is poison to apply objective thought to a subjective field of view, you must realize that you cannot ever rid yourself of the lies and delusions of feeling, and that it is not within your design to do so either, you must rid yourself of the illusion that simply because universally speaking none of your actions are neither required nor necessary that your subjective body feels the same way
this is why you must go on doing as the body demands to live a fulfilling and happy life, and the body demands many things that does not go in line with objective truths or the idea of nihilism. your body and evolution demands purpose despite there being none, that is why your purpose must be to make the best of humanity as it is or perish trying.

the alternative purpose of course is to cast aside all of this and drown in degeneracy as you entertain yourself and pleasure yourself beyond any degree of health before killing yourself when it is not longer good enough, i do not condemn this path however

the glass isn't half empty or half full it is simply a glass with liquid and we are the evolved sapiens contemplating a viewpoint because we have achieved consciousness.

>you cast away man made thoughts and ideologies, yet forgo to mention that nihilism is also a man made ideology, also garnered from the same subjective viewpoint that is humanity. your evolution states your subjective opinions and viewpoints, and none of your evolutionary traits condones the idea of nihilism

because consciousness. nihilism may be a word, it may be a philosophy, but it is also a conclusion I came to on my own as many others have. besides it's really just a state of mind and I don't let it rule over me or govern my beliefs. I am always constantly taking in new information because I like to learn, I do certain activities because I enjoy them. I am alive and choose to enjoy living but I simultaneously recognize the ultimate futility of the actions I take and the desires of the ego and the conditioning of my upbringing and the nature of my biology. same of these things can be amended and reshaped but only with the short time I am allotted, however long that may be.

i did not make use of the word nihilism as anything but a shorter way to communicate with you, of course you came to the idea on your own, that i never contested
i am merely suggesting how everything that a human can take from nihilism is negative to both himself personally and all those who surround him, rather than being personally content and fulfilled with his lot in life he must sit and wonder at things he cannot possibly understand nor answer
even if you do not adhere to my extreme scenarios accepting it at all will affect you and how you live your life very much, you may be content just now with what you enjoy doing and have bright prospects for the future, but if it all falls short and you still hold onto this nihilism then what motivations do you have to persevere? it is purely damaging and you gain nothing from holding onto this objective viewpoint in a subjective capsule
you can understand the inherent selfishness in our every actions and how our egos trample over all while also practicing empathy and struggle beyond reason for those whom you care for, these conflicting ideas are what can make humanity greater than it has ever been

Atheism claims literary billions of lives each day with its mind virus.

This is correct, Protestant Christians are the only bulwark against Islam in Europe.

Nice picture btw

>i am merely suggesting how everything that a human can take from nihilism is negative to both himself personally and all those who surround him, rather than being personally content and fulfilled with his lot in life he must sit and wonder at things he cannot possibly understand nor answer

this seems to be the curse of the intelligent man/turbo autismos like myself that can't help but live inside of our heads. a doomed self fulfilling prophecy on repeat cycle until the body and mind inevitably fails. not all red pills are alike

Not yet, until Marxist Communism gains more support (faster than what it currently is), then we should worry about militant atheism.

I'm not a religious person and I never have been, and I used to think that was just fine. I am beginning to see though, that some people who are atheists seem to be so far from what I would consider a good person, they just do disgusting and degenerate things.

I often hear Christians and stuff say "where do you get your morals from then" and I used to think it was complete shit, that people naturally did the supposed morally correct thing, but now I think there is some truth to it, not complete truth, but at least some.

bad people will do the worst they can and good people will do the best they can, but if you want a good person to do something wicked than you need religion- the hitch

being a non theist just means not believing anything supernatural, 'militant atheists' don't exist. militant atheist are simply militant because of another ideology they follow.

I sure fucking hope so

stop believing in man made books written by retarded middle eastern peasants. rise above it

Militant atheists are atheists whom are hostile towards religion, in addition to supporting things such as an atheist-state where religion would be banned, imprisoning religious people, destroying worship buildings/ sacred sites, destroying any historically significant items in regards to a religion, persecuting the religious, etc.

During the USSR, atheist propaganda was widespread, posters depicting religious figures being killed was common, children were taught atheism in schools and encouraged to deconvert their parents, the league of militant atheists in Russia would murder religious people in addition to destroying religious buildings, and mocking the religious was heavily encouraged. All of this resulted in an all time high for atheism within the USSR.

Atheism is like a mold infestation in the home.
Islam is like a house fire.
Is that a clear enough analogy?

again, that wasnt atheism.

the ussr was a communist regime which employed a vast number religious like factors. the cult of personality created around stallin was smart considering the fact that million of Russians were told for hundreds of year that the state leader was a semi god.

they wanted the state to be the only priority of the people and even other ideologies which were godless were banned.

many unscientific things were promoted such as lysenko's biology.

non of those policies stem from atheism, because the only thing atheism is is a lack in the belief in a supernatural creator.

the closest thing to an atheist state would be the secular nation you live in. you should appreciate it more

I like this

>70% of atheists voted for Obama
>82% voted for Bernie Sanders
>"MUH NOT ALL ATHEISTS"

A heavy majority of your kind are libs hits and cucks. Get over it.

No, athiests don't breed.

Except they elected Trump.

>WHAAAA THEY'RE SAYING MEAN THINGS ABOUT ME ABLOOBLOOBLOO

But liberalism makes you an atheist. Atheism doesn't make you a liberal.

>2016 +11.9/mo
>not being agnostic
ISHYGDDT

>>tfw live in 50% atheist country
do you have any reports saying this?

if it's true NZ might be the most woke country yet

>Atheism claims literary billions of lives each day with its mind virus.
I see you subscribe to Dawkins ideas of memetics.

What are you even talking about? Name one athest intellectual who has ever wanted to fuck children (as opposed to the catholic church) or animals.

The ancient philosophers who practically invented Western virtue and pretty much everything Western civilisation is based on were pagans, atheists or deists at best.

The Founding Fathers were secular, and fucking understood that Jews can lie (the entirety of abrahamic religion) too

Atheism is a passive position, whatever other ideas that correlate with it are exterior to it.

When you start coming with evidence to support that claim.

>soul
lol

Damn you're stupid

>intredasting

>destructive behaviors of society - promiscuity, homosexuality, feminism
Third Wave Feminism I can agree on. The rest is just you having a guilt trip about yucky sex