Eliminating Hedonistic Desire

How is it possible that I eliminate my animalistic desires? I have come to the realization that all individual problems usually relate to the desire for the brain to produce more pleasure chemicals i.e. dopamine
>desire for food
Makes you fat if uncontrolled
>desire for sex
With pornography so accessible in 2016, it's no wonder why there are more and more nu males out there. Although sex in itself is not bad, it can become bad if uncontrolled similar to the nature of food. Too many partners can create unstable relationships, and no partners at all can create a rather meaningless life (unless if you do something brilliant like Sir Issac Newton. Sorry MGTOWs but most of you are the male equivilants to 2nd wave feminist catladies)
>Emotions
Leads people to do irrational things. It creates false thoughts. I actually had to overcome the emotion of depression through eliminating its opposite (joy) so I stop having unrealistic expectations in life whether they be optimistic or pessimistic. Reason should overcome emotion. Emotion should not be completely overridden, as it produces societal benefits (mother loving her children, man and wife loving one another, satisfaction from hard work, etc.)

I wish humamity could evolve away from its ancestors mentally. While these urges were needed for us to survive back then, we live in high civilization now, so we should not focus on maximizing animalistic pleasure. We should instead focus on discovering new things in space and focus on stability of our societies in order to innovate technology and ourselves. I want to start with myself, but how?

TL;DR
I want to eliminate hedonistic desires such as food and sex because it will benefit me and everyone around me. How do I do it?

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Meditation

>wants to stop being a degenerate
>posts a concept art from a game series that pretty much is about degeneracy

I Googled Ubermensch and I found the image to be cool. I want to create a futuristic society and I believe overcoming the inner animal will play alarge role in that. I browse Sup Forums 67% and /fit/ 33%. I am not much of a gamer like I used to be.

Elaborate. What do I meditate on? Music or no music?

You will just live a bitter and void life

Embrace your desire

Most people I know who are hedonistic are miserable/used to be miserable. Alcoholics, Sex Addicts, you name it. They may appear happy at age 20 but once they age it is quick to note how they fall apart after noticing how meaningless their lives are.

Simplicity is the gate master to sophistication. I am removing computer, tv and phones from my life unless I have actual use for phone. Many of us already limit our rime on Sup Forums for news. Others like myself are on a journey of helping others with knowledge we gained.

Doesn't matter, but either way, just do nothing.

Enjoy, leaf.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations

philaletheians.co.uk/study-notes/living-the-life/marcus-aurelius'-meditations-tr.-casaubon.pdf

I have also thought about this, and I realized that in order to stop, you would have to treat yourself like a drug addict. It's very difficult since we have lived for most of our lives with hedonistic practices.

You would have to go though the suffering of withdrawal symptoms while your brain gets used to the deprivation of the usual pleasing activities.

I myself have tried to stop masturbating and watching porn, but even with the knowledge and rationalization of how the brain works with dopamine, serotonin, lymbic system, nucleus accumbens, etc., I still find myself failing to quit such behaviors.

you're a robot bro.

Thank you Australia. I shall give it a read.
Good luck on your nofap journey. This world would be a much better place without sexual degeneracy, and I commend you for putting efgort into stopping your addiction.

>The pic
Original Mass Effect was so good, too bad Bioware fucked that franchise up so bad

>While these urges were needed for us to survive back then, we live in high civilization now, so we should not focus on maximizing animalistic pleasure. We should instead focus on discovering new things in space and focus on stability of our societies in order to innovate technology and ourselves.

The problem is that without these basic instincts, not only would humans cease to be humans, but the drive to achieve greater things would be gone. There is a good reason most of our best advances came from conflict. Necessity is the mother of invention, and there is no greater hardwired necessity than that of survival. What you are talking about extinguishing is not so much the desire for sex or food, but the natural human desire for MORE. Take that away, and the clock starts moving backwards on our civilization quite rapidly.

Humans would be much better if they didn't have hedonistic desires (which I unfortunately have considering I am no robot) but humans can create, and robots cannot. Humans can love, robots cannot. While hedonism is certainly human, it is something that predates humanity. It is an animal desire. Things like creativity and rationality are what makes humans distinct from both animals and robots, so we must preserve those human aspects.

Haha. This. 3 was faggot loving shitfest. Within 2 minutes i had to hear the faggot pilot talk about his (((husband))) then the dyke navigtor injun say ze is only into girls. Fuck. And the new ine is made by openly racist anti white radicals.

Turn to Jesus although it says in the Bible if you didn't believe in Jesus at one point in your life you are doomed to hell but the Bible does help.

Interesting point. Maybe the desire for more could be applied to beneficial things like I mentioned before while eliminating the desire for more food and more sex could be encouraged. After all, I said earlier that satisfaction derived from work is good.

No babies believe in Christ. Are they doomed to Hell? Heck, St. Paul did not only reject Christ, but he killed followers of Jesus. I thought a major proponet of Christianity was Christ forgiveness of those who come to him. Please provide an excerpt of the Bible proving your claim.

>I want to eliminate hedonistic desires such as food and sex because it will benefit me and everyone around me. How do I do it?
>Ignores basic human instinct of survival and procreation
>"benefits me and everyone around me"

Logic and rationality has never resulted in progress. Our biology is not equipped to handle something like that. Whatever strides we have made has been because of our greedy hedonistic self serving nature. You're better off not fighting it

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin

Blasphemy which the Bible defines as "rejecting the Holy Spirit" is the eternal or unforgivable sin. The Bible states there is no forgiveness for that sin.

Cut them out of your life. Make new friends, older friends from different walks of life.

Being less degenerate requires training. You can't jump from degenerate to wise. Little steps will lead you to the top of the mountain.

Yeah, I don't know why Bioware went full SJW

Too bad since that franchise had potential, Dragon Age on the other hand was always shit, especially when you have stuff like the Witcher series.

Anyway, Naughty Dog is always going in that direction, which is a shame.

who's the guy in the wallpaper?

Poo in loo, I said earlier that these urges helped us survive in the past but are no longer needed due to our abundance of food and accessibility to pornography. Procreation is beneficial in a monogamous relationship, but most single moms are a result of hedonomism and selfishness from both parents, ruining the life of the child. I never said starving and stopping having sex were beneficial. I said that an overabundance of food and sex/pornography are bad. Bigg difference. Maybe it's different for you in poopoo land, but here in Canada starvation is unheard of, and there are many fatties (not as many as USA though)
>Logic and rationality has never resulted in progress.
I guess all the philosophers and scientists were irrational and illogical.

I wasn't talking about my friends. They are pretty cool. I was actually talking about my parents and other older people I have come across :^)

you're parents are non-hedonistic you shouldn't be with them

I never did the blasphemy challenge. I am an Agnostic Theist (I believe in a Creator and spirituality but it may not exist. I also have little knowledge on what that Creator and spiritual plane could be). I would most likely end up in Islamic Hell if Islam is right (I highly doubt that since God should never consider a polygamous pedo as His most Holy prophet), but I have never denied the possibility of a Holy Spirit from existing considering I believe in spirituality already. My main issue with Christianity which prevents me from believing it wholeheartedly would be a cuck fetish encouraged in Hosea, as well as Mary's rumored birthing age (14). It is mainly a mild moral issue I have with the religion but it is not bad enough for me to blasphemy it like I did Islam.

My dad overcame his passive alcoholism (I say passive because he was never abusive when he drank. He just fell asleep). My mother on the other hand I do a good job to avoid. Thankfully I live on campus so I don't have to deal with her like I did in my highschool days.

Unironically, yoga
>subtype of meditation
>also ruined by fucking hillcuck and her pedomails

At least the Last of Us is pretty well put together

I liked the dynamic between Joel and Ellie. He's a ruthless bastard and she is a vengeful little shit, and its all pretty fun.

Yes, but a system that teaches you to master these emotions young, to become an able and fit warrior, but also to be a man who can easily suppress such thoughts for the good of his people.

Well it looks like I have to break it down for you leaf.
> these urges helped us survive in the past but are no longer needed
Human instinct does not magically go away when you don't need it. It's a farce to try to control it much less actively fight it. It's not going away and it manifests itself in every area of life.

>Logic and Rationality has never resulted in progress.
I should have been more specific. Logic and Rationality has never been the reason for any technological or intellectual progress. Even scientists ultimately grind so hard to be recognized, to signal intelligence and good genes, not because it is the logical or the rational thing to do.
Most technological progress was made in the midst of the world wars. That is nothing more than an extension of our primal need to mark our territory.

>moderation is key to happiness/success
You only took two thousand years to think of what Aristotle already did. Quite the revelation OP

You've got to think in terms of outcome. KNOW something is not going to benefit you before you do it.

It has worked for me. Before I drink alcohol ii make a point to myself that it is not good to go overboard, hangovers and acting stupid are not worth it.

With women and casual sex I always think "sure I'd like to fuck her, but I'd be a hypocrite creating more sluts that I hate and see as a real problem."

As for emotions I still feel them, you can't change that but what you can change are your reactions oo how you feel. Something upsets you, address it calmly, someone annoys you, be calm but stern nnd don't let an outburst happen. Wearing your heart on your sleeve just makes it worse and as a bonus, you'll be seen as rational, calm and focused and will feel that way too. You'll still feel angry, sad etc but choose to push through it and don't host that emotion like a parasite

Yeah sure, believing the nutty theories of a greek nutjob is an accomplishment

Good idea based britbong.