Gun laws

What are the gun laws like in your country? Are they strict?

They're okay

You're lucky to live in the USA, there is no way we're gonna have gun laws like you thanks to retarded Belgians.

What are gun laws like in Belgium?

Could be better. Will be better. We've frozen laws at the top level of government, extracted constitutional precedent, and are dominant in the majority of lower legislatures.

I haven't checked yet

Honestly, all you need to do is look at my flag, I don't need to comment on anything.

burp

everybody has guns then?

Suck ass

>no modern machine guns
>old shitty machineguns require huge tax stamp
>states are allowed their own gun laws
>all kinds of infringement

This is the main issue that got trump elected, too many people were scared of a blue supreme court.

If your happy to own shotguns and rifles pretty good.

We are doing what we can in an harsh World.

To be fair, you guys are also white and Hondurans aren't.

SHALL

requires?

PA here. Bretty gud laws.

I unironically like our gun laws.
If you really want a gun, you can get one.
Round where I live everyone and their mum has a shotgun tucked away somewhere.
The people who would use guns for crime find it much harder to get one as they're either to thick to fake convincingly the criteria required to get one legally and due to the risk of smuggling guns on the black market are nearly prohibitively expensive.

Getting gun permit is pretty difficult. Most affordable route is sportsmanship, and it's expensive, long and requires regular participation in competitions

Well army is mandatory even if it's easier to dodge now and as a militia soldier you're required to keep your weapon at home.

I hear mosin nagant are pretty solid guns and there cheap here. Is it worth getting one?

That sucks. Is there any chance for you guys in the future to have less strict gun laws?

That's pretty cool.

>look up Swiss gun laws
>wiki's pic of a Swiss shooting is a darky

fucking wiki

Honest question: if you had the opportunity to carry a concealed weapon with the knowledge that you could legally use it to defend yourself or others from death, great bodily harm, or any forcible felony (including robbery where the threat of force is implied), would you?

>have to sit two day course to apply for license
>actual application approval can take anywhere up to six months
>you got your license! Now you have to apply to buy a firearm
>find one you like, fill out all the paper work, send it to the cops
>application can take months
>transaction must be brokered by a firearms dealer
>every process has a fee
>police must inspect your safe and storage facilities

So at the end of the day, assuming you're a responsible gun owner, the cops know what weapons you have, where you have them, what you do with them, who you bought them off and when, which I think would be a resonable thing...except after all this we don't even have the freedom to choose what we want.

>No handguns that aren't strictly for competition shooting ever
>No semi auto, ever
>Nothing that "looks mil-spec"
>No mags over ten rounds, ever
>No armour
>No pepper spray
>No batons
>No crossbows

The funny thing is I'm for regulation, but if I have gone through the process and proven myself a responsible gun owner, then for fucks sake let me have the freedom of choice.

cant own anything besides shotgun before 21.
tfw currently 20.
otherwise its fine, but no conceal carry

no, only the criminals and police are allowed to have guns.

Hard to say, there are two sizeable group that are pro-gun (Kukiz & Korwin). Current goverment is conservative-sociallist, and i think that they fear armed people (like every socialist gov)

Fairly strict but not terrible. There's several rifles I can't own because they look too scary, and some arbitrary bullshit like magazine limits, but for the most part I enjoy shooting my funs in peace.

Jesus. I had to go through less to get my carry license. In Chicago.

Can you shoot guns where you like so long as you have permission from a land owner or do you have to go to a range/ gun club?

>Huge tax stamp
I would think the $20,000 price tag would be a larger obstacle than the $200 stamp but OK.

Fucking hell, Korwin is a boss. I watched him talk about Islam and I couldn't agree more. I wish I had him as a president.

>Chicago
Isn't that the murder area in the US?

Do you have to pass any background checks?

Yeah, you need express written permission from the land owner, and they need to actually qualify as a land owner. Like, you just get your mate Davo down the road to say you can shoot in his back yard for pigs.

That's one of the only two reasons you can own a gun here: comp shooting or hunting. No home defence.

Some moves in terms of gun ownership has been made in recent years. You still have to do a lot of paperwork but once you pass exery exam they have to give you weapon, few years ago police officer could refuse you gun licence. Also brigades of territorial defence can be one of the ways to teach Poles how to handle guns. As a society we are to reckles ls to deal with guns.

can you own 338
>can own 50 here
>no way to afford it

>live in canada
>probably somehow can save up, but restricted

>can
*CAN'T

>Right to bear arms
>Need license to bear arms

wut?

Mostly niggers killing each other on the south side

In my country they're generally loose but in my state they're REALLY strict.Fuck, even slingshots are illegal.

>Drive to gun store
>Walk inside
>I'll take that one
>Pay for it
>Leave with new gun

Feels good man

hello commiefornia

Where do you live?

See over here. I just need to ask the farmer if it ok for me to shoot on his land and thats it.
The police dont need to be informed.

So you could be a murderer/ on the run felon and just walk in and buy a gun?

Florida with a CC permit, so no wait time on hanguns

That must be nice. Imagine being treated like an actual adult.

>Isn't that the murder area in the US?
Closing in on 800 murders this year, over 4000 shootings. I've lived here 35 years and have never known anyone who was actually shot. Its all gang bangers killing other gang bangers over gang banger shit or gang bangers killing people hanging out with gang bangers over gang banger shit. Its also almost completely contained in 5 neighborhoods.

Chicago is segregated in a way few places in the US are.

We're working on it. I'm not happy about having to sit through two days of classes and get a background check to be able to do something I've been doing for a decade anyway, but I might as well get the license now that its available.

Background check costs $10 and takes 30 seconds

Cali is strict but you can still own guns.

Damn youre lucky

Why does America have such an obsession with gangs?

The whole EU, including Switzerland and Norway which are in Schengen, are all going to have the same gun laws in march 2017 :

-all gun owners considered psychologically insane by defaut, until proving otherwise regularly
-magazine limit of 10 rounds
-weapons that have been converted from full auto/select fire to semi-auto are banned
-weapons that look like "automatic weapons of war" are banned
-rifles under 60cm of length or that can get under that length with a collapsing, folding or "easily removable" stock are banned
-markings on every gun part and every single cartrdige
-special tax on guns and ammo
-anything that looks like a weapon is considered a weapon, including deactivated guns, airsoft/paintball markers, starter pistols and non-firing replicas, and submitted to the same restrictions (need a license to own, have to be registered and stored in a safe)

The end goal is to completely ban private gun ownership before 2025.

Do you have to have checks nation wide to buy a gun or just some states?

>no, only the criminals and police are allowed to have guns.
That is what we tell people will happen here if we pass gun laws. It is almost like it actually holds true..

Nah, he has his CC permit. He'd have to be a pretty recent murderer/on the run felon.

only the police and criminals have guns here

Hopefully we will be out before this gets pushed through.

So it's the EU's fault then?

But the homicide rate is so high in your country?

criminals are armed to the teeth here

We don't have an obsession with gangs, we have concentrated poverty in urban areas, a lucrative black market drug trade, substandard policing, and a complete lack of social safety net. Put all that together and you get 17 year old kids shooting each other over who gets to sell smack on which corner or who disrespected their clique while rapping on youtube.

A third generation poor, uneducated, drug addict is an obnoxious thing...

I'm not sure exactly how the background checks work desu. I assume it's a mix of state and national criminal databases

>Ask dad for help finding a decent AR since he's got so fucking many for great deals
>sells me his Anderson AM-15 for $490 and I go shoot it the same day
>Get an escort MP for birthday this year
>background check took 5 minutes and I had my shotgun
>find out literally 20 minutes later Walmart had the same gun for $100 less
>Don't need a permit to carry open or concealed
Idaho is based.

18-1-704.5. Use of deadly physical force against an intruder

(1) The general assembly hereby recognizes that the citizens of Colorado have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes.

(2) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 18-1-704, any occupant of a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person when that other person has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, and when the occupant has a reasonable belief that such other person has committed a crime in the dwelling in addition to the uninvited entry, or is committing or intends to commit a crime against a person or property in addition to the uninvited entry, and when the occupant reasonably believes that such other person might use any physical force, no matter how slight, against any occupant.

(3) Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from criminal prosecution for the use of such force.

(4) Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from any civil liability for injuries or death resulting from the use of such force.

If you're buying through an licensed firearms dealer (the overwhelming majority of sales) you need to get a background check through an FBI database that covers felonies, involuntary commitments to mental institutions, misdemeanor domestic violence convictions, adjudications of incompetency, and dishonorable discharges.

What process do you have to go through in order to get a gun ownership?

I hope your government will fix this shit, it's going on for too long now.

Ky gun laws are really lax but I wish constitutional carry was legal. I have my concealed.

Their attempts to "fix" it never work, it doesn't help with rap culture glorifying that shit.

Not strict at all. In my state you can carry concealed without a permit. Just got pic related for Christmas, you Belgians make pretty nice guns.

i don't know much about firearm licensing, but just to buy airguns you need to have a license that the army gives you

They won't. Nobody really gives much of a shit if the blacks kill one another so long as they don't spread their shit into places with taxpayers. Its fucked up, but its how things have been for at least four generations.

I went into the gun store with $400 worth of gift cards. Walked out 45 minutes later with a m&p 9mm and 200 rounds of ammo. The feeling of freedom walking out of the store was like no other :')

trouble is, I rarely see police officers here, they earn little money, have little training, and are outnumbered by a lot

So most of the time the criminal is free to do as he pleases

fairly strict. get put in a system. but its better than a straight up ban. a lot of canadians live pretty far away from any law enforcement, so it would be stupid to outright ban them.

pepper spray is however completely illegal to own.

M17s, Mas36, and the Type 38 (as well asthe 99) are around the same price as the mosin and are in my opinion better guns. Lots of fun to shoot them too.

my grandpa bought a rifle because he was a farmer and the federal police said it was okay so he kept it , he had to pay 1000 brbucks to get a permit to carry it around in his property though

It's worth it. I got mine for around $150. It even has a little hammer and sickle stenciled into it. It's dated 1942 and still works like it's brand new.

What about these kids' parents? Do they not give a fuck about their son hanging out on the street? What kind of shit is that?

Thanks, bruv

It doesn't look easy to me

Race war when?

Your grandpa is pretty badass

now that's how you keep a thread going

What handgun is that?

>parents
Most likely a single mother, possibly with kids from more than one father. Pretty good chance they're on some drug or another and likely either working a shitty job or on food stamps. Either way there's no parenting. The schools are shit too because the kids keep trashing them, the schools in Detroit often have metal bars on the windows because people kept breaking in and stealing shit.

>Permit to carry on your own property

If only you had oil, we would come free your country

i seriously feel bad about eu guys, not in laughing at you way..
you guys make literally best guns ever, but not allowed to own your own masterpieces...
meanwhile based czechia made 2ama

To own a gun you need to apply to the cops for a gun license.
They can reject you for any reason they like, such snIf they think you're connected to criminals (they don't have to prove it, the just have to think it). They will ask your family and if your family isn't comfortable with you owning a gun they will reject you, or if they just plain don't like you they can reject you without really having to justify their decision.
You are only allowed to own guns for hunting or sport shooting, if you say on the application "I live in a high crime neighbourhood and wish to defend myself and my family against a home invader" they'll immediately reject you. Owning a gun basically gives the police the right to search your house at any time they want essentially without a warrant or your permission.
All guns must be kept unloaded, in a locked, police-approved gun safe which they will come to your house to check at least once every few years, possibly more.
Getting a hand gun is nigh impossible, and even a semi-automatic .22 is classed as a "military-style" weapon. Single-shot rifles, bolt-actions, and pump-action shotguns are about the best you can hope for.
Carrying a gun (or any weapon for that matter) in public for self defence is outright illegal, doesn't matter if it's a handgun you put under your coat, a knife, pepper spray, or even a stick you found by the side of the road, if the police say it's an 'offensive weapon' then it's illegal to carry it.
You cannot even buy body armour. It is a illegal for a private citizen to buy and wear body armour.
There's a reason I want to move to the USA eventually.

DD44 Dostovei

actually here your property is not your own, I mean if you find some gold underground or something valuable, it belongs to the government.

Middling here (Michigan). CPLs are must issue, but we're working on a constitutional amendment. Suppressors and SBRs are still a pain in the ass and crazy expensive. I have roughly a dozen firearms at any given time. I'm always trading or selling one.

well I'm sure criminals follow the same laws, so fair is fair

Missouri has Constitutional Carry as of January 1st.

19 year olds can OC a pistol.

No laws for mag caps, no waiting periods, no "assault weapon" laws.

Also MO is one of the states that ignores all future Fed/ATF laws and will arrest feds for trying.

I'm truly sorry you have no freedom. Emigrate legally to the US

Enjoying drinking beer in cologne atm have Swiss gun laws anyway.
Pretty good, could be better.

Why is it so common for blacks to grow up without a father? The fuck is wrong with them?

yes Europe is a shithole, it has been this way since the refugee thing

Despite what Americans think the gun laws here are pretty accessible, you just need a lot of money. Both my Dad and Grandad own a number of rifles, shotguns and handguns. I intend to as well but again you need a lot of money (just a way to deter more "casual" firearms enthusiasts really)

If only was that easy...also I'm probably so used with the shit here, I wouldn't be a very good citizen

wtf i love living in georgia now

but can you carry them in the streets to protect yourself? that's all that matters really...

Yes. And I carry a knife for that reason.
But, and its a pretty big but, the fact that very few people carry a gun in this country and that the majority of the ones who do are unlikely to be involved in crime, means that my dis-satisfaction at not being able to protect myself and my family to the highest extent is lower than the dissatisfaction I'd feel if every criminal could easily access a gun.

Conceal carry laws over time in US states

Can't be real due to the brady act.

Dude what the fuck I'm moving to Switzerland

No sense of responsibility.
Despite what people say, it's a culture thing, not a race thing. I live in the suburbs between Detroit, Flint, and Ann Arbor and the blacks around here are for the most part respectable people. The ones in the city are mostly shit, and the few that are good get dragged down by the rest for the most part.