Capitalists BTFO

capitalists BTFO

You're the one who fucking bought it.

>Be against slavery
>Want people to work in sweatshops for their food

Are communists all sub 60 IQ?

Chu on that one, capitards.

Why does that guy have a check next to his name? I keep seeing literally who's on Twitter with that check. Can you buy it now? Can anyone get it?

labor is capitalism though lmao

Posts on Sup Forums like this are shit.
Just reminding everyone, I warned about what our future would look like if we allowed people like OP to just post this trash and spread literal who gossip around like candy.

Its been happening so long now, newfags actually think this is normal.
Let me tell you faggots something, it isn't.
There was a time when you actually had to make a thread decent to get by here.

Now you can just screenshot any butthurt yuo find on twitter and post it here.

If you're wondering who the cancer is and what they are doing. Take a hard look at the OP.

Owning labour is capitalism

iPhone only exists in the first place because capitalists knew they could get rich off the idea.

no capitalists = no innovation = stagnation and eventual decline

True.

Manual labourers in China just came to their shitty job one and say "we need to build an iphone".

#WorkersUnite

There would be no iPhone under any other -ism than capitalism.

It should say "Capitalism made your iPhone $500."

America has never even come close to experiencing or being the neighbours of full blown socialists and communists.
The ones that claim they are communists tweet their "activism" on their 800 dollar iPhone using Starbucks wifi as their paying their bills with the money their rich hedge fund parents transferred that month.
They're a walking joke.
If they even knew how horrible people had it under communism, they would think twice at calling capitalism bad.
Sadly their history education ends with Martin Luther King and ends in Hawaii.
The only "history" they get after that are romanticized lies about Lenin saving Russia from professors who haven't stepped outside campus since they graduated High School.

Can't wait for the robots to manufacture my phones completely. Nowadays LABOR does very little, and in the future these cuck socialists wont be able to whinge about how MUH WORKERS built my phone. Not as if these morons have the rights of the working class people in mind anyway, at least not in the West.

And "Consumerism made me want it despite knowing how it gets made." Fucking dummies.

>Arthur chu
Might as well be breanna wu

LEAF STRKES AGAIN

>"nazism killed your jews"

No, VIOLENCE killed your jews. Violence kills things under any -ism . The -isms just determines who gets to having done nothing wrong.

Yes. And those "-isms" also determine whether or not businesses can freely develop and procure the wealth society needs.

That's a fake tweet.

Shares and loans gave Jobs and Wozniak the initial capital to start their computing business. Competition in the market kept them innovating their products to be better than their competitors. Apple's first products were way out of reach in terms of price for working class people due to the amount of resources that went into creating them and so the middle/upper classes buying the products gave way to a large amount of money that could be used by Apple to innovate how they produced their products and cut prices in the long run.
Apple spotted and cornered a niche in the market and created an all in one pocket touch screen device that can browse the Internet, download a huge variety of applications and be used as a phone. Other computer companies then made their own smart phones to compete with the iPhone. This competition made it so that each generation of iPhone has new features to compete with other smart phones.

Capitalism made the iPhone.

Yeeeeeeeeees

A fully automated workforce will make communism a virtual certainty.

Show me the communism iPhone.

There would be one. It would be plain, basic, lacking all features we now hold dear and you'd have to wait ten years to get one.

WTF. You are sick... I have seen enough Post's from this group to know that "no offense" you are all fucking stupid and you think the worst things are actually funny, when you idiots learn what comedy is you will realise that actual funny people will be not only ashamed of you cunts but will eventually make fun of you. Its just memes right? So you think you are funny because of memes? I know all to well you will all have a go at me and find whatever you can talk about to offend my feelings ohh blah blah blah. Defend yourselves all you want by making fun of others, I know this post will not do anything to stop you docile waste of space humans making the most shit jokes I ever heard but the more people who can tell you that your dumb cunts for what you say on here maybe just maybe you could tone it the fuck down a bit. If you think real comedy is through memes especially the ones you post then I hope real comedians find this page and tear you to shreds lol whatever you say to offend me I could not even give a fuck haha if I don't think much of your existence because of your shit sense of humour then I'm not gonna give a rats ass about your soon to be tasteless shit comebacks.

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>Laborers made the designs
>Laborers invested the capital
>Laborers risked their resources
>Laborers managed and constructed the structure of production

The isms also determine public moral, which is something socialism will NEVER be able to maximize.

Was communism against slavery?

Capitalism invented the Iphone.

You can buy crap under almost any -ism, dumbass. Way to state the obvious

Chu need to grow up

IKEA used german inmates to produce their products for no money. You tell me if that sounds like slavery.

Why do people prop up the iPhone as the defining invention of the 21st century?

>was it the first smart phone?
No
>was it the first phone with a camera?
No
>Was it the first phone to have a touchscreen?
No
>Was it the first phone that was also an mp3 player?
No
>was it the first phone to have a dedicated mobile operating system and a web browser?
Fuck no
>So what did the iPhone do?
It had the best commercials.

This.

/thread

Socialists on suicide watch.

Compare this to the mentality of people who say that black slaves "built America". These people assign no value whatsoever to the innovators, inventors (aside from the mythical), and other men of genius and drive who cause the working class' labor to become worth thousands of times what it had been.

>It had the best commercials.
Never liked them, nor the apple stores, they're cold and soulless, just like the malls they're in.

They are meant to be plain, futuristic and inaccessible. That's why the employees behave like dicks so often.

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Yes because if you bash rocks together hard enough with your labor eventually you'll invent the ipad.

>something as complicated as an iPhone is made by a bunch of manual laborers just making shit
>not accounting for the direction and financing
>not accounting for the logistics and research for it
>not accounting for the soecialiy trained designers and programmers
>not accounting for the people who put up the money to make it happen

God damn liberals are dumb

It's not like those people were born thieves or murderers

/thread high sparrow

Or the chinese who built the railroads.

>You there, chinaboy! I need you to dig a ditch over there!

That is the scope of any one persons involvement. The people at the top who drafted it up, funded it, a engineered it are the people who get credit for building it.

You dirty anti-semite

>That's why the employees behave like dicks so often.

Apple store staff get upset if you ask questions more complicated than "what other colors does it come in?"

Truth

Good post m80 deserves a reply

Underrated

you pretty much always had to pay for it and Twitter is desperate for money so I don't see why they wouldn't offer it to anyone. there was a period of time when it was free but they revoked all the free verifications if you didn't pay when they started charging for it

>Laborers

the dumb fuck probably doesn't even know that most of the components in a smartphone are made with precision robots

Except "labor" in gommie countries didn't make anything. What has China ever introduced to the world? What has North Korea introduced?
Gommie labor = system when worker is treated like shit whether he does good job or not, so nobody is ever motivated to do good job.
Capitalism labor = worker get bonuses, promotions and ego boost when he achieves better results than his colleagues.

Humans are very selfish monkeys obsessed with status games. Equality never worked and will never work.

>LABOR
That's not how you spell "China".

When did labor invest in capital to create the warehouse and obtain the resources to create the iphone? You wouldn't get innovation without capitalism. When was the last time these socialist/communist countries create any great innovations that we use on a daily basis? What has North Korea and Venezuela innovated? Oh wait, they're busy starving to death.

Where's the communist iPhone? And why didn't it exist before the real iPhone?

Because more people have an iPhone than any other smartphone in the world

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report and sage is the only way we can remove this cancer.

>what has China ever introduced to the world?
Gunpowder for one thing...

communism can't feed you but it can definitely solve all your problems.

"Capitalism is the worst system out there, besides all the others."

The Soviet Union made it to space before the US did, but you guys want to talk about innovation. Even though a vast majority of innovation is funded by government grants.

Are we dealing with children here, comrades?

Is this why the USSR lacked basic consumer electronics before they fell, China lacked basic consumer electronics before they opened to the West, and North Korea lacks basic consumer electronics to this day?

Don't forget to sage.

I'm so literal im literally a fucking idiot.

>live in commie America
>have idea for this new thing, a "smart phone"
>can't get a grant to develop it from Chancellor Clinton
>too poor to fund it myself
>no reason to even try, as big government would sap my profits and redistribute it to niggers
>back to potato farming then

>only people who already have access to capital should get capital
Where is the logic in this?
>innovation
Kek. The government funds tons and tons of research into the components that made the iPhone possible.
>the innovation we use on a daily basis
Where would we be without double stuffed Oreos?

Not really. It was basically re-invented by Europe and only Europe turned it into actually useful weapons, BTFOing China on epic proportions when they directly clashed.

The government, and our tax dollars, had to assume some risk in developing the internet, as there was no assurance of profit down the line. In reality, corporations innovate very little, save for world-saving devices like the Tostito's chip that is shaped like a bowl.

Try again.

Yes really. Europe didn't invent gun powder at all. China did, and Europe copied their invention. That's piggyback innovation m8. Hardly impressive

Communists think to be free is to work.

Everyone had bread, but the marketing people convinced you that you needed new blue jeans, so now young Russian girls get to look forward to lives of drug addiction and prostitution. Hooray for capitalism.

Everything is capitalism, it's a question of who controls the capital.

>"LMAO we want everyone to be poor retards." Friedrich Engels, 1845

Read a book, idiot.

Communism IS slavery

This statement is so vague as to be meaningless.

Doesn't matter what the goal was, the end result always became slavery.

>The government, and our tax dollars, had to assume some risk in developing the internet
The internet was developed soley for military comms, but they didn't dump money into it for civilian use you fucking retard. They allowed private civilian companies to develop the tech into what we see today. The internet, while it is government regulated, is privately funded. By capitalists.

...if you think you made a coherent point, you did not.
>internet was developed "soley" (sic) for military comms
This does not contradict anything I say. There was still no assurance of profit for a company, and therefore no incentive to create the internet.
>They allowed private civilian companies
Because private companies could not afford the cost, or the risk. What incentive does a company, acting in the interest of shareholders, have for creating the internet?
>is privately funded.
Now it is privately funded. And I am sure it will continue to be, if Trump eliminates Net Neutrality and turns this into TV 2.0

>Defeating a strawman
>Feeling this good about it
Capitalism didn't make anything, anyone who claims otherwise is either stupid or illiterate. Capitalism cultivates things like the iPhone, whether that is truly a good thing is a matter of opinion.

Only in theory, like most everything else to do with that neet religion.

OK then. capitalism invented your iPhone

>The Soviet Union was more trigger happy with their stolen Nazi tech than the US was
FTFY Comrade Cuccboi

>there's no connection between innovation and incentive structures

God help us all.

>stolen Nazi tech
When will this meme die? The Soviets had liquid fuel rockets in the 1930's, and you fucking Nazis should now better than anyone how solid the Katyusha rockets were.

>Being forced to work involuntarily for less than the fruits of your labor
>Not Slavery
No, Communism is by definition slavery.

That's actually capitalism.

This guy is all kinds of retarded

>"I am a socialist"
>"REEE FUCK POOR WHITE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE"

Nope, not when costs are too high or the risk is too great. Then you need a massive pool of resources with a stable future.

But where would we find such an organization?

>you make a nickel
>boss makes a dollar off or your work
"Capitalism is great because it is about the individual."

Under capitalism, by definition, all legal exchanges of capital are voluntary.

Remind me about the time that communism made an iphone.

>Hey, you, work for something and then get paid, alright?
A real slavery.

"Work or starve" cannot be voluntary.

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Chu Chu on that beat

You could always just leave the country and farm your own land in africa, its dirt cheap over there, 1 capitalist paycheck is enough to buy some land.

Remind me again, does north korea allow you to leave a country like capitalist america does?

>There was still no assurance of profit for a company, and therefore no incentive to create the internet.
>he says, using the internet provided to him by a private corporation in exchange for money

>hat incentive does a company, acting in the interest of shareholders, have for creating the internet?
Money, you fucking commie retard. They saw an opportunity to provide network connectivity and profit off of it. It started off small and scaled upward as demand increased.
>Now it is privately funded.
Civilian use internet was never publicly funded. Government use was, until the tech spread to the civilian sector, and at time it was only developed to the point of basic LANs. Do you even know what the internet fucking is? Any inkling how it works?

>if you don't like it, leave.

If you aren't going to try and defend your ideology, please stop posting.

>Remind me again, does north korea allow you to leave a country like capitalist america does?

Why does that matter?

>he says, using the internet provided to him by a private corporation in exchange for money

...what does this have to do with anything? First of all, these companies are regulated and subsidized by the government in many, if not all cases. Secondly, you have not provided a shred of evidence that would evince why a private company would have incentive to create the internet.
>Money, you fucking commie retard
Then why didn't companies create the internet before the government did? They thought the project was too risky, so they were reticent to spend the cash. Simple as that. It seems as if pooling resources ensures more than hoarding it does...
>Government use was,
Thank you for making my argument for me. None of the other facets would have existed without the first part.

At least you did your best.

Why do you think the government is going to give you something like an iphone under communism?

>Communists didnt even come up with blue jeans because their was no incentive for any Bolsheviks to create items people actually wanted.
>t-t-they would've made iphones too!
>everything would have been the same!

>Hey look at me, i break down complex economic,historical and scientific questions into their simplesed forms just to fit my ideology