Real talk: Europe has mostly solved its Islamic terrorism problem

Back in 2015, the big concern was that "cells" of multiple attackers would pull off "Paris" or "Mumbai-style" attacks in major cities, killing hundreds. Cities like London, Madrid, Rome, etc. were on "high alert."

That never happened. The only real apparent "cell" blew itself apart in Brussels (killing a few dozen, but not nearly as many as in Paris), and the others were either taken out in raids or were captured and imprisoned.

Almost all the major Euro cities, all of Scandinavia, all of Iberia, all of Italy/southern Europe, Netherlands, the UK etc. had no major attacks.

We're down to lone attackers using things like trucks.

While that will be a sporadic problem in random locations, the big fear of massive, coordinated assaults is pretty much over. Look at the recent Christmas celebrations across Europe - they were terrorism-free.

It's an interesting and hopeful development. "ISIS" in Europe has been reduced to a bunch of pathetic larpers who can't get anything done except getting arrested.

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I don't entirely agree.

We're not exactly in the clear when it comes to ISIS/refugees in Europe, particularly since they serve a purpose to the powers-at-be, the destabilisation of traditional European societies and the creation of social alienation for both refugees and the average citizen, thus leading to the possibility of extremism on both sides.

Perhaps you are right, or perhaps not. Either way, I think that the media gives more power to ISIS because they constantly re-enforce the fear narrative to get people frightened even though the terrorist maybe only killed a few people, a few people too many but nothing worth screaming and scaring people over.

Extreme caution against the enemy is needed, both ISIS and the globalist system which seeks to undermine the nations of the world.

A lot of this has to do with modern surveillance and "security state" techniques. The dark side of those technologies is well-known; the upside seems to be that lots of would-be terrorists really DO get themselves identified and caught.

There seem to have been proto-ISIS "cells" in Western Europe seeking to attack targets like summer/fall festivals. But they were identified and taken down.

Real Talk - nigger sentence.
Also, you are burger, a "human" with no real history or pride, just fake "muh right" and "muh sandnigger god". Kill yourself you fuck.

>I wonder i southern countries didn't have any attacks
I don't know maybe because we have no muslims?

The worst part will come about 15-20 years from now. That's when the second generation of these migrants will be going through teenage rebel phase and identity crisis, which make them vulnerable to jihadist propaganda. Baby boomers will be old or dying, and their largely nationalistic voting bloc will be lost. Politicians will be expected to pander to the young muslim voting bloc instead. Because of immigration and birthrates, ethnic Europeans will have less say in the politics of their own countries, and less manpower to counter the problems that will emerge.

Lol.
Ever heared of the term "critical mass" Mr amerifat?
Its just starting, enjoy the ride.

>Burger talks about European issues
>Burger has no clue what is habbening on Euro mud
>Burger still has opinion.
This guy.

you can literally feel your braincells dying when listening to american trying to articulate his worldview

>Real talk
Found a nigger

For four centuries Muslims attacked Europe raped its women, killed its men, stole anything not nailed down and demanded people convert to Islam. These invaders were finally driven out and a measure of civilization replaced the chaos and death they brought to Europe. Now the ancestors of those brave warriors who fought to protect their lands from Muslim conquest have rolled over and invited in the same people who are sworn to kill them. These cowards Ignore the violence in their streets, Ignore the rape of their women and children and demand tolerance for a culture whos sole goal is the extermination or conversion of anyone who is not one of them. If they succeed in taking over Europe it will be the weakness of Europe's modern tolerant liberal leaders and its cowardly people. When the death squads and sharia law zones take over its on your head.

.t ahmed

>t.realist

But we do. Lisbon is full of disgusting third-worlders. It's the work of our prime minister António "Barbosa" Costa.
We have just been lucky so far.

I take the word of the head of security of France, Patrick Calvar, over yours, Mr Know Nothing Burger.

‘I think we will win against terrorism,’ Mr Calvar said, but predicted the ‘confrontation between the extreme Right and the Muslim world’, adding: ‘We’re on the verge of a civil war. I think this confrontation is going to happen. One or two more attacks and it will take place. It is up to us to anticipate and stop all those groups who would trigger clashes.’

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Don't think so

No major terror because they're not ready yet, why do you think they stockpiled so many arms and not used them yet?

conservativedailypost.com/breaking-weapons-of-allah-safe-houses-just-found-huge-underground-mosque-network/

Threat still exists

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-terrorism-europe-uk-france-germany-harry-sarfo-islam-attack-a7171051.html

Out of the THOUSANDS, how many do you think have been caught so far?

express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees

express.co.uk/news/world/714004/ISIS-jihadis-in-France-authorities-warn-thousands-radicalised-teenagers

We're already in the final phase

wnd.com/2016/09/2021-the-united-shariah-states-of-america/#FLo8r7ApKSgSRxsh.99

To underestimate or turn a blind eye to the threat is to be vulnerable, and that is most dangerous and dumb

Iberia and our holdings are protected by matamoros.

Chance of reconquista tier chimpout is too real

>ancestors
I think you mean descendants, amerirbro

Who the fuck cares about terrorism, really? Tottaly made up story to gave more power to the goverment. I only care about demographic change in white countries.

Trying to post from a crap phone sry.

saving this just to repost it after new eve's mass shootings

>ancestors.
Fuckwit.

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Pack it up everyone, we can all go home. Everything's great in Europe with respect to muslims.

They only have to worry about bein raped or mowed down by trucks and lone wolf attackers, increased crime rates, drain on taxpayer funds, breakdown of family unit, etc.

But we can forget about all that because we're definitely not going to have another 9/11 in Europe.

Amazing work boys.

One thing is for certain, we shouldn't be scared of ISIS. That's the only effective way to fight them, as they're terrorists. They clearly don't have the resources to do an awful lot of these attacks and I don't think anyone could in the current situation. Guys using trucks to off themselves and a dozen people in the process isn't the problem.
The mistake we are making is to give them more importance and more screen time than they deserve. We should do with attacks what we do with their killing videos: ignore them or just tell people they can be found if they're interested (not even).

The problem lies with the population. We can't have someone voted in that would send boots on the ground in the Middle East and we can expect a civil war in various European countries if the situation is not dealt with accordingly.

bullshit, go open a history book about islam

ignoring terrorists and terror attacks isn't going to stop them

only deporting terrorists will

and once they are deported, then you can live in peace

only because they're retarded mate. As soon as these muslim refugees are settled in with internet access and free money and more time than they can handle with hundreds of them in communities, they will slowly figure out better ways to make terror.
to think that terror is a solved problem is naive on a human level, that's like saying "hey guys, we solved murder. no more murders will happen from now on."
clearly that is only something you could say when society as a whole has changed its attitude and economic and social outlook which we are doing the exact opposite of right now
terror will come in many forms now, constant rapes, more burglaries, more crime in general

YES GOY!
Lower your guard and let more cultural enrichment befall upon you!

I'll let you kill me. Beinville Square, Mobile, AL. Come get some of Slim from South Alabama.

They were waiting for today.

You're refering to how Muhammad took over the Arab Peninsula.
That's not going to happen here.
First and foremost, they don't have the numbers to do the same thing in Europe.
Second, they had the Pagans by the balls, because they threatened their trade routs and basically chocked their economy. They're doing none of that here in Europe.

Terrorist attacks have a few objectives:

1) Provoke the West into attacking the Middle East, which would support their narrative and make things worse on the long term OR scare the West into giving them what they want.

2) Make relations between Arabs and Westerners more tense, leading to an Arabo-muslim upheaval in Europe.

3) Encourage Muslims from Europe to either go to Syria or fight against the West in Europe.

4) Push the cowardly to convert to Islam.

The only way to destroy all this is to discredit ISIS by

a) Showing that ISIS wasn't responsible for all attacks

b) ISIS is not viable

c) Their brand of Islam is retarded

d) Shutting them down by not showing what they have done. Tragedy should not be paraded like a spectacle for the whole world to see, we should leave the people to the intimacy of their own mourning.

France apparently sorted out the cells and clearly Italy is on the ball but strangely Germany is out of the office for lunch.

Europe has Muslims balls deep in its rectum with sharia law zones and entire cities occupied by them while claiming they solved the problem. Europe is lost. Enjoy watching your women raped and converting to Islam. Europe confirmed for cucked.

This

The nost severe way you can hit a country is by economic measures rather than terrorist attacks, that's what the muslims did back then because the trade routes all went through the middle east, now they don't and the only rhing they have to use now as a weapon is fear.

>Europe has mostly solved its Islamic terrorism problem
By becoming an Islamic terrorist state?

Complacency is dangerous. Islam is a threat and should be treated as such.

"just ignore it and isis will go away"

you're an imbecile who would still say the same thing no matter how many bodies pile up

islam has no place in europe, deport them all before it becomes islamic

Yeah, it's not like most of the world's oil passes through the ME every day... you dickless fucks dont even deserve a nation

Thank you, that's a good point from someone who doesn't understand Islam in the slightest and has no clue what ISIS is.
You make Islam out to be a bigger problem than it really is, you're the one playing into their stupid little game, and you don't even see it.

Fuck off.

youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU
even the 'moderates' are extremists in waiting, deport them all before they realise what the quran actually tells them to do to infidels (YOU)

you think a muslim security guard is going to actually stop terror attacks?

that it's a smart idea to give them jobs in nuclear plants like your stupid country did?

telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/25/brussels-attacks-nuclear-terrorism-is-real-threat-says-un-watchd/

keep burying your heads in the sand you chocolate eating retards

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it

youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo

Correction: The East somewhat solved the mudslime problem, the West is being consumed by it.

1) Most Western Muslims have no idea what's in their holy book and it's good that it is kept this way.

2) We are failing to do that by allowing Saudi Arabians to teach Salafi Islam in Western schools. We've had numerous accounts from refugees finding Western Muslim schools to be too conservative or too extreme
(see independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-syrian-refugees-islam-religion-mosques-too-conservative-strict-a7384146.html and dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3179916/Refugees-war-torn-Syria-claim-racism-Germany-extreme-want-HOME-growing-unrest-anti-Muslim-feeling-sees-attacks-foreigners-soar.html)

3) Any holy book can be interpreted to say whatever the hell you want it to say. I've seen verses of the Qur'an interpreted in ways that mutually contradict one another, and both have valid arguments (in terms of theological critique). People will believe whatever they want to believe. Most Muslims aren't dishonest about their religion and don't practice Taqqiyya (which is a Shi'a practice anyway), they just don't know enough about their holy book.

4) We both know very well the difference between an extremist and a moderate.
Look at Sup Forums, we have neofascists, neonazis and moderate right wingers who, while they agree with the neofascists and/or the neonazis on some controversial points, would never cross the line for this or that reason. The exact same goes for Muslims.

5) A Muslim security guard might actually stop a terror attack, yes. Because he's very likely to belong to a branch of Islam that is at war with Salafism and/or Wahhabism (most are, by the way). To treat Islam as a monolithic entity is retarded and highly inefficient. Paranoia and fear only breed more fear and more hate.

6)
>that it's a smart idea to give them jobs in nuclear plants like your stupid country did?
It's not smart or stupid. The fact of the matter is, Muslims aren't going to attack nuclear power plants.

They're not going to attack power plants or the electric system in two cases:

1) If they're terrorists, their actions only have meaning if they are witnessed by many, and creating a massive power shortage is not the way to go. If the power goes down, terrorists have literally nothing left to do here and they lose all voice.

2) If they want to take over Europe, they're not going to destroy half of it by causing the explosion of a nuclear power plant, because they'd actually like to keep that land intact for their Muslim brothers to breed on.

yeah but its not just fucking isis is it?
what happens when the next islamic shithole ideology comes about?

europes islamic problem will be solved when there are no more muslims.

this just made me really sad

It's wahhabism and salafism. You could argue that Iran's Shi'a Islam is a problem as well, but they're not as aggressive and annoying as hardline reformists Sunni like Wahhabi's and Salafi's.
The West's main objective in the current war is to let Wahhabi's and Salafi's kill one another into oblivion to show that, even when Europe doesn't meddle into Muslim affairs, extreme reformists are the ones that fuck it all up.

1) until they go to mosque

2) yes, they should be shut down

3) the quaran is quite specific about what to do with 'infidels', you should actually read it, it's a book full of threats of death, and only muslims act upon it, it's not something to ignore

4) not the same at all, eventually push is going to come to shove and muslims will be forced to pick between following the example of mohammad or be killed by isis because they're not following the quran, isis is at war with the world, whether you want it or not

5) they cannot be trusted, and their culture and customs have no place in europe, deport them all and terrorism cannot take place

6) do you subscribe to isis's newsletter? and it is as stupid as using a wolf as a sheepdog

1 and 2) you are assuming islamic extremists are rational... rational, from people who shoot up people over drawings and kill people over bacon

wake the fuck up mate

You wrote "gas muslims" wrong friendo.

I forgot to mention the economy. There are right now large problems with unemployment, debt and Euro. In a couple of decades there will be less jobs available due to outsourcing and robots, and less people paying taxes for those who live on welfare money. It can't be sustainable. People are still too comfy to take arms and revolt, they'll only risk their lives like that when they can't bring food on the table anymore. If that time comes when ethnic Europeans have declined far enough, it's probably gonna be muslims lynching whites for being too privileged and rich.

However, we're living in turbulent and unpredictable times. There are lots of people who keep trying to find a diversity-free place to live; white flight provoked by the migrant floods. On the geopolitical stage, Putin and Trump have hinted that they might be willing to reconsider who their enemies and allies are. Nationalist movements are gaining speed, not fast enough to reverse the mistakes, but at least it's something. The future is uncertain. Who knows, maybe some black swan event will pop up that turns everything on its head and makes my guesses completely wrong. I really hope that I'll be wrong.

1) Problem that can be fixed. Not all Western Muslims are fervent Mosque-goers anyway. In the West, Muslims mostly associate with Islam and use it as an identification sticker. So fervour is not something that can be quantified with acumen.

2) We agree on this.

3) I've read parts of it, in Arabic to boot. Which verses in particular are you refering to?
Websites such as this one discover-the-truth.com/2014/11/08/debunking-the-myth-that-the-quran-endorses-violence-2/

show that there is a significant number of Muslims having a hard time dealing with their own religion and actually want it to conform to Western values. Again, the book is just a book and you can pretty much justify anything with your holy book - which is why abrahamic religions are absolutely retarded.

4) Where exactly is the difference?
Also, I think you underestimate the number of Muslims that don't agree with ISIS and how a very small difference in credo can mean a death penalty for anyone not following ISIS' dogma. Right now in Syria, the Al-Nusra Front and ISIS are at war against each other, and they're both wahhabi groups.

5) You're applying a grand solution to a complex issue. If you want a good idea of what this kind of thinking results in, just look at China's one child policy. Doesn't work.

6) Violence can be rational and generally is. ISIS would never have been this important if it were irrational. In fact, the only ones which think irrationally and commit attacks are the lone wolves, which are a by-product of Islamic terrorism and haven't been able to achieve any relevant goal. All attacks that were definitely committed by ISIS were carefully thought-out and planned.

>and they're both wahhabi groups.
Scratch that, the Al-Nusra guys are salafists (but the difference is practically non-existent).

listen here nigger. if you make muslims behave secular and invite them to parties to drink alcohol and eat non halal they will blame you when they reconnect with islam and discover its true message. moderate muslims are the most dangerous muslims because they keep building up that reaction charge by living as the kuffar. thats why prison inmates become radical muslims because islam will blame you for the sins that muslim commits and then require the muslim to bring religious punishment on other people.

>thats why prison inmates become radical muslims because islam will blame you for the sins that muslim commits

No, that's because muslim extremists and salafi/wahhabi apologists aren't separated from the rest of the scum. Same thing happened in Iraq. That's how Al-Baghdadi radicalised and took over ISIS.

Those people radicalise because they used to live in sin and got sent in jail for it. From there, it's easy for extremists to guilt-trip them into being more fervous, except they are served salafi or wahhabi Islam instead of something better.

all muslims are scum because their religion is scum. moderate muslims will atone for their sins by murdering non muslims. the only way to get rid of muslim terrorism is to force convert them back to christianity and remove the satanic muhammed who hijacked the religion.

Also, again, what is Islam's true message? The base idea behind Islam is found in the Shahada:

There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Prophet.

Then you've got the 5 pillars of Islam:

Faith in the Shahada(faith in Allah), Salat (Prayer), Zakat (Charity), Sawn (Fasting) and Hajj (Pilgrimage to Mecca).

Beyond that, the rest is up for interpretation and I've seen Muslims debate over everything and its contrary. Difficult Hadiths can be written off as non authentic or contrary to the Qur'an and the Shari'a can be written off as man-made.

>all muslims are scum because their religion is scum
Your unwillingness to understand your enemy will be your undoing.

removing solves everything

lol, even though our history doesn't go as far back as yours it's substantially more eventful and prideworthy than you scum

muhammed is the devils prophet. jesus abolished religious punishment and muhammed reintroduced it. muslims become worse people when they read the quran. the perfect muslim is muhammed and he was a pedophile, murderer, slave owner, rapist, liar, warmonger and thief. every person who claim to be muslim and worship muhammed should be expelled into the desert.

No, it doesn't. You'd cut us off from a major oil supply chain and upset a number of economic partners, and I'm not even talking about the fact that we'd have to gear our economy towards the evacuation or termination of massive populations. Or the great likeliness of a civil war in countries such as Great-Britain, France and Germany.
Violence ist the last refuge of the incompetent.

>muhammed is the devils prophet.
Why are you telling me this? You think I care about your jewish myths? Fuck off with your superstitions, I have better things to do than accept policies based on your unwillingness to acknowledge that life is meaningless and that there'll be nothing after your death.

>terrorism in yurop

The best part is that all you spewing hatred towards muslims is playing right into Daesh's hands. It's literally their agenda to end the coexistence of western and muslim society; not to mention that people are much more likely to radicalize when they feel marginalized by society. This is why they focus their attacks on 'muslim-friendly' countries like France and Germany.

the devil doesnt care if you believe or not he is the master of ideology as well. you can escape to atheism and still join a political cult that force you to murder sinners or suicide your own nation to prove that youre a good person.

Your comment makes absolutely no sense to me. You're just riddled with fears and paralysed by it. Under those circumstances, I don't see why anyone should listen to your opinion.

atheism will not solve the muslim problem. even if they are atheist they will equate good with the actions of muhammed because that is the basis of their moral system. to fix islam you need to remove the muhammed virus from their religious program and return them to christianity. after they have adopted the moral code in the ten commandments they can chose atheism if they want because jesus came to liberate us from religious punishment and the hell that good moral men bring with them

Westerners are so naive in such a clever way. They will transform and subvert your society. Our governments by definition cannot keep control forever with the mounting demographic pressure regardless of the short term strategies any side in this conflict employs.

>even if they are atheist they will equate good with the actions of muhammed because that is the basis of their moral system.
I don't think you understand Islam or atheism. Please stay in your hutt and play with your dolls in silence, Björn.

That's such a broad and eerie statement. What do you back this up with exactly?

Blue-pill with IQ upgrade.

1. yes, it can be fixed by shutting down the mosques, and banning the burqa and quaran, that will root out the extremists first

2. ok

3. ive read the first half, and it goes far beyond anything in the old testament and new testament, the whole bloody book asserts allah is great, and that nonbelievers will burn in hell and it goes a step further by encouraging war on non believers, and page after page of death threats against non believers/polytheists

take your pick
thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

4. yes, there are muslims living in the west who are essentially western in muslim clothes, but at some point they will be confronted with the fact that they are not following the quaran, so either they leave islam and be killed by the fanatics, or start following the quaran and the fanatics

this is something the islamic world has to sort out in their sandbox, the rest of the world should not have to be dragged into it, that's why deportation is the cheapest and most effective solution

5. it's quite simple really, islam is incompatible with non islamic values, so why are they in non islamic countries? they destroy everything that isn't islamic and try to make it like home

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

6. what was rational about bataclan? or will you call that a lone wolf thing as well?

what will you say if something like this happens?

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/isis-nuclear-attack-in-europe-is-a-real-threat-say-experts-a7069891.html

independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/isis-nuclear-bomb-is-a-serious-threat-warns-barack-obama-a6964621.html

dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3516207/Harvard-researcher-warns-ISIS-brink-using-nuclear-weapons.html

muslims will either convert to christianity or they will be expelled into the desert or they will be put in camps and starved to death. those are your three options muhammed.

Stormfag with no ad hominem.
See, I can do this too. What's the point?

he's absolutely right though

the quaran says everything good comes from allah, and everything bad is from your own doing

it also says that a person as immoral as mohammad is to be emulated

and that atheists are the worst of all of allah's creations

1. Shut down wahhabi and salafi mosques. I don't see the point in banning the others.

The Burqa and the Qur'an shouldn't be banned. I'd rather show them that the Qur'an doesn't say a word about the Burqa and tell them to take it off because it was pushed by men, not by God.
Also, that will not root out the extremists. By banning all those, you're actively throwing them in the arms of extremists whose most important selling point is that the West will never accept them as people.

3. Thereligionofpeace is a Christian propaganda website... It's like telling me to look at David Wood's videos to learn about Islam. They misconstrue verses, quote them out of context, mistranslate them or don't talk about alternative interpretations/translations. They'll assert that men are commanded by Allah to beat their wives into submission when they disobey while there are Muslims scholars that disagree with this. They are fear-mongerers and nothing else. My point being, I don't care about what's the correct interpretation of their holy books, I just care about the fact that we can push a soft and weak interpretation of them.

4. You're simplifying the issue and are not taking into account that there are multiple interpretations of the Qur'an that contradict one another and that fanatics will be pushed away as it is shown that they have nothing of value to bring on the table.

Muslims do have to solve this problem internally, but throwing everyone out is not the way to go. They'll misinterpret this and we'll just be supporting the fanatics' version by doing something that extreme.

5. Your statistics only strengthen my argument that there is no reason to throw Muslims out of Europe.
>But in some other countries, especially in Eastern Europe and Central Asia – including Turkey (12%), Kazakhstan (10%) and Azerbaijan (8%) – relatively few favor the implementation of sharia law.

6. That's terrorism. You do horrendous things to get people to react.

The worst thing is, those fuckers are more worried about the far-right than about the muslim.

Because muh darkest hour and nazi shit.

I'm stuck with coworkers spewing their leftist bullshit every time we go to lunch, they are obsessed with WW2 in term of consequence (Trump was democraticaly elected, just like HITLER) without ever reading about the ravage caused by the political pacifism that was the norm at the time.

Just like then, we should strike now before they grow strong enough for a big war, and just like then it wont happen and we will get our fucking big war.

As for the nuclear bomb, I don't see any reason to stay at home if they've used nuclear power against Europe.

I back this up with the fact that it has already happened, and will continue. Rotherham being the starkest, simplest and most brutal example I can bring up right now.

I must compliment you on your style btw. You are liberalism at it's best. So urbane, so diplomatic, so understanding. It was an honour to discuss this with you. You epitomise the kind of thought process which causes these problems even when it aspires to fix them.

ISIS have killed hundreds if innocents on the streets of Europe this year. They have to go back. The whole Middle East and Africa needs to be crusaded by Christian armies and peace and order restored.

dont worry, europe will be the graveyard of islam

Take a nazi QT for your positivism

>crusaded by Christian armies

I think you misunderstand me.

I follow Hitler's idea, when he said: "Comrade, I'm willing to talk with you, but first, put away the fist, because if you don't, you'll learn that I am as violent as you can be".

I simply prioritise cost-efficient and diplomatic solutions as they are the less costly and the most effective. I'm not one of those retarded idealists who think everything will be well, but I am a student of war and I know that extreme solutions the likes of which are sometimes proposed here don't work on the long term, and generally would have catastrophic short-term effects.

One thing I always hear after an attacker is identified is "He was known to police for a long time.".
Sorry, you are a "guest", get "known" to police-get the fuck out! It's almost as if they are inviting attacks for some darker purpose.

1. because islamic values are incompatible with other cultures

3. the verses aren't made up, they're in there, I've read them in context, it means what it says, you're not gonna weasel out of this one

4. nobody has time to deal with this shit anymore, OUT THEY GO, if they like living in civilization, they have to give up their barbaric desert religion, they can stop marrying their cousins for starters and start following the law

5. when they gain 5% of the population, then their tune will change, as it has from numerous examples, why do you think they have such large families?

6. yes, and exactly why every non islamic nation is fed up with them, OUT THEY GO, before they do something really destructive, they can rot in the desert

If only Westerners didn't have such a fetish for making things more complicated

Sweden has no concept of pride and forgotten it's history. The suicide of an entire nation is a terrible yet instructive thing to watch.

they do it to create hatred for muslims and islam. they force people together to create conflicts. israel used to be alone with the muslim problem and the terrorism but now we all share israels problem. the way things are going muslims will sooner or later require a permanent solution.

Terrorism is only the tip of the iceberg and it's not the main reason why people should be afraid. Much worse is losing such ideals as freedom of speech. Also, mass immigration of foreigners affects how your country will be governed; immigrants and non-white minorities tend to vote for leftist parties. They will keep pushing for tolerance of things that shouldn't be tolerated.

1. Which values?

3. I'm not saying they aren't made up. I'm saying we can find some way to interpret it in order for Muslims to do nothing with them, like saying it applied to a different time and age, or to a specific context. Again, I don't give a shit whether it's made up or true, I just want them to believe it and leave us the fuck alone.

4. I agree that there should be a harder line on following the law, but I'm against throwing everyone out indiscriminately just because they identify as muslims. It's counter-productive.

5. You don't solve that problem by throwing Muslims out, you solve it by making more white children.
They have large families because they fuck without protection, because they get welfare money for it and because they still follow ancient ideals according to which you need many children to have some survive. Also, they think for their community, not for themselves, and they are mostly uneducated. Look at educated Muslims and count down their children. Fertility rate goes down as education goes up.

6. Again, by throwing everyone out indiscriminately, you're just making matters worse.

How do we confront the disturbing sex and rape problems Muslims are bringing? I don't think that comes only from Wahhabism/Salafism

That's most likely coming from their culture and their lack of education. Plus immigrants rarely are the best and brightest of a country/culture. There's a lot of scum that comes to the West and just goes on doing the disgusting stuff they were doing in their own country.

Wahhabism and Salafism have institutionalised those practices, but I agree that those interpretations of the Qur'an don't have anything to do with it.

Optimistic answer: RWDS

Truthful answer: You can't. The government and police are totally and utterly under the control of these people, either through fear of being branded racist, or fear of the people themselves.

Your complete and utter ability to act so collaborative and excusing of these things is disgusting.

>Oh, they just don't know it's wrong to hook a girl on drugs and use her addiction to imprison her to a life of sex slavery. They just need education.

People like you will be the first to hang.

Answer: You root out the criminals. They are committing offenses, so they are punishable. Prison is not going to work with them, death penalty is not an option in most of the West, so just send them back to their country.
The problem's more complex when you have to deal with drug cartels and organised criminality, so it requires more comprehensive actions.

See this comment. Also, you've misread my comment.

muhammed said a muslim is allowed to rape anyone that he can rape as long as he has more witnesses then the girl does. his followers were told they can rape anyone who is not wearing a muslim head dress.

their religion is created by their culture. their culture is created by their genes. western society practice monogamy and equality because that has been beneficial to our survival. muslims practice polygamy and war because that has been beneficial to their survival. they attack other peoples wmen because that is how they got their women in a society where the rich and powerful men took hundreds of women for himself.

>Europe has mostly solved its Islamic terrorism problem

Also in Europe rain with milk, and we money grow in trees over here.

>so just send them back to their country.

A lot of them were either born here, or would never be taken back by their country.

>so it requires more comprehensive actions.

Which will never be done because the only victims are working and lower class. The police wont do anything because they only uphold the law when those "breaking" it are easy pickings, or when they uphold the law in the police's stead.

No action will be taken against this by the weak willed, and yellow-bellied leaders we now have. Hence the requirement for RWDS on the ground, and possibly even going so far as military governance for the state.

They have shown themselves, either through fear of a label, or fear of reprisals, to be traitors to the people.

The idea that this can all be dealt with at the ballots, or that we can talk about this, or arrest one or two men from a nationwide ring of thousands, is has to put aside. That time has passed, and it's people like you that sat and stared at your navels rather than acted decisively at the start that are responsible.

You're pondering about solutions, when I say just shoot the lot of the nonces.

>muhammed said a muslim is allowed to rape anyone that he can rape as long as he has more witnesses then the girl does
You mean this passage?
Thereligionofpeace.com uses verses on adultery or ahadith (which can be written off as contradicting the Qur'an if need be).

"And those who accuse chaste women, and produce not four witnesses, flog them with eighty stripes, and reject their testimony forever, they indeed are the Fasiqun (liars, rebellious, disobedient to Allah)."

>his followers were told they can rape anyone who is not wearing a muslim head dress.
Where is it said?
>their religion is created by their culture.
That's obvious. So what?

Even if the refugees are completely non violent, which they aren't even at an individual level, they bring with them the destruction of European culture and the future for whites.

This is the Jewish endgame, a mulatto brown horde with no identity nor ability to defend themselves on the ideological level. The best slave caste they could engineer.

This only shows numbers of people killed.
What of the 1400 girls used as sex slaves in rotherham?
>Or the Oxford sex gangs?
telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10146369/Oxford-sex-grooming-gang-jailed-for-life.html
>or the halifax sex gang?
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36559092

look at all those niggers and mudslimes, surely WE are the problem and not them.

Fuck off back to plebbit or whatever shitty liberal hole you clawed your way out of.

>That's obvious. So what?

So their culture AND their religion is rotten and has no place in a civilised society, or any society.

They do it to create justification and support for their actions from population. You know if Iraq didn't make 9/11 CIA may want to make such attack themselves...