Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
Why does a burger flipper deserve the cash created from someone else who invented a successful company, created a profitable product, paid advertising to make the brand well known, handled the logistics for the product, bought the land, hired the construction crew to build the building, and paid for the relevant assets to run the restaurant?
Jason Murphy
Fucking starvation niggers flooding this board butthurt about our 100000000th get ayee
Oliver Cox
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Easton Ward
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Kevin Jackson
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Camden Gomez
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Adam Morales
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Thomas Anderson
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Juan Butler
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Benjamin Stewart
Im sure communism will work out someday. When all people have morphed into one single super organism just like in resident evil.
Liam Ross
THE ARYAN RACE IS THE MASTER RACE
DOWN WITH EGALITARIANISM DOWN WITH COMMUNISM
Ayden Lewis
Go away evil dogger
Isaac Wright
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Leo Anderson
collectivism = crime
Oliver Howard
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Nolan Nguyen
S neighbouring aussie know...it's 2017 already it's a new year for us to rise against Marxism in whatever shape it takes,unluckily you don't know yet but soon enough you'll understand as the sun rises over the land and sweeps away the night so does the darkness of Marxism hide away Praise for a big chimpouts in Europe that finally manages to push too far Europe and make Europe great again Ps happy new year you fuckers!
Mason Flores
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Matthew Hernandez
it's current year and next year; why aren't you hanging yourself, you pretentious cunt?
Levi Torres
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Adam Scott
Hi comrade, why do you wish me death?
Adrian Perez
Das right, fucking capitalists. I prefer to share my wife's cunt with my fellow workers.
Chase Roberts
Your flawed ideology has and never will work, is responsible for the untold suffering and deaths of millions, and never results in gains of freedom wherever it has been tried. Please though, tell us how this most tried and failed brand of your particular ideas have not been tried yet. Neck yourselves you filthy stinking reds.
Aaron Sanchez
You'll starve to death beforehand.
David Kelly
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Cooper Clark
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Brayden Cook
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Caleb Morgan
fuck off with your bad bait
Matthew Bell
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Ryder Jenkins
This art does a great job of representing the quality of work expected from a commie society.
Hudson Cook
Stalin was 5'5 Hitler was 5'8
Carter Johnson
2nd thread today? Feeling extra lonely on new years Juan Pablo?
Samuel Moore
Go away evil dogger
Mason Diaz
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Andrew Stewart
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Owen Perry
I bet you guys won't do shit when he gets into office.
.t Commie that read a book
Cameron Cook
Hi comrade, I'm at home with family , how are you?
Karl marx was the jewiest jew that ever lived. The majority of Bolsheviks were also jewish.
Caleb Sanchez
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Alexander Evans
Communism and Capitalism = false dichotomy that both end in wealth transfer to Jewish pockets
Aiden Rodriguez
Wrong.
There were 2.6 million Jews in the USSR (1926 census) and 95% of the party were not Jews. They were represented pretty much normally. The Soviets even had special organisations to stamp out Zionism, Judaism and Hebrew. They consistently sided with the Arabs/Palestinians in the Israel-Palestine conflict.
On the eve of the February Revolution in 1917, of about 23,000 members of the Bolshevik party 364 (about 1.6%) were known to be ethnic Jews. According to the 1922 Bolshevik party census, there were 19,564 Jewish Bolsheviks, comprising 5.21% of the total, and in the 1920s of the 417 members of the Central Executive Committee, the party Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the People's Commissars, 6% were ethnic Jews. Between 1936 and 1940, during the Great Purge, Yezhovshchina and after the rapprochement with Nazi Germany, Stalin had largely eliminated Jews from senior party, government, diplomatic, security and military positions.
It's a meme created to get people like you directing your hatred at the false enemy.
Landon Lewis
quads say truth. Only acceptable form of comunism is open hard/software
Hudson Thomas
Go away evil dogger
Juan Green
I hope, for your sake, that this is a committed effort to bait us.
Luis Cox
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Bentley Hughes
sage goes in all fields, faggunist commies are kids who somehow ended up both UGLY and STUPID, making them useless in the workforce, and thus, parasites. eww gtfo
Nicholas Smith
Even more evidence dismissing this stupid bullshit
Not bad, same chilling with family. About to watch Alabama kick Washington's ass in men's football.
Luis Cook
good post
Charles Lewis
Post-communist country resident here Communism is a terrible system, it brings only poverty, starvation and terror to anything it touches. Why would you wish this upon yourself and your countrymen? Striving for a working class revolution is a road to death, and you must turn back while it is not too late.
Hunter Clark
what is the productive infrastructure of more humans?
Anthony Sanchez
Modern societies can't survive without the bourgeoisie
Camden Cooper
its a shame youre the only person doing these threads anymore, spainfag, all your friends have scurried back to their hugbox.
Bentley Thomas
Nice lies, kulak.
Jason Barnes
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Jaxson Perry
[citation needed] Besides, communism itself is a major cause of all that
Literally better than Brazil, Turkey, Iran and Mexico despite being a small island nation with few big resources like oil.
Gabriel Reed
Hungary. U lived under a state capitalist system. Not a communist system.
Sovietski soyuz was fail. It was international socialism 0.9. State capitalism is a system that failed the majority of its citizens. In the west today ( even Hungary ) we have a system called financial capitalism. We have had it since the late 70's. It too is increasingly failing to serve it's citizens.
The soviets were not the only projects towards international socialism. The chinese are still going strong, and unlike the soviets they are doing better every year. Same for vietnam. In the west the figures for poverty and unemployment are getting worse. In china they keep getting better. The difference between china and the west ( because they too have a capitalist economy and a relatively free market) is that rich people do not tell the politburo what to do. If they try, they die. I am not sure how europe fits into international socialist trends, is it soviet union 2.0? Or is china v2.0 and the eu 3.0? Only time will tell.
But the march of marxs version of history seems to going in the direction he said it would. increasing socialism, to multi-generational international socialist state, to collapse into communism.
And since it's the march of history, u dont have to do anything to make it happen. If its true, it's gonna happen - what will happen when the machines do all the work? If no one can afford to buy the goods, then there will be no reason to have the machines do the work. AIMachines are a productive thing that we can all own together.
I'm not saying marx is right, I am just saying that if he is, we dont have to do anything, it will happen. And no one can be a communist, since that is something that will only be possible once the interantional state collapses. It hasn't even been built yet. And since capitalism is a system that will lead to communism anyway ( as opposed to being the great enemy of communism it is actually the father of communism - like Darth and Luke
Xavier Moore
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Ayden Cook
Shit lads, it's an opinion poll.
Can't argue with an opinion poll.
Chase Wilson
There are Haitians on the east coast of Cuba.
Jackson Ross
there are two tips of communists the fuckin femies and the Leninist revolutionary who are capable of leading and not bitching we are not the lazy fuckin socilists now we are the red star and we will bring down the united states. brothers unite! kill the rich
anyway ( as opposed to being the great enemy of communism it is actually the father of communism - like Darth and Luke).
All you have to do is what is good and right now. Our childrens children will not see an international state. If they do they better hope it lasts a long time so that like marx said, it would become the culture until it withered away. If it lasts a few hundred years it has the chance of successfully collasing into communism.
I prefer to think this way, it may or may not be true - but anyone who tells you we can has it soon is a psycho liar mother fucker - they are just looking to be the centre of attention. All the fidels and the che's the lenins and whoevers are just so many doomsday singers claiming to know the mind of god. Their claims defy logic, reason and decency.
The one enemy we do have is rich people. I mean the very fuckin rich. the billionaires, the families and the long term corporate interests.
I give u an example, in financial capitalism u are a slave to the bankers. Financial capitalism means that the ownership of an asset should be more profitable than the operation of the asset. That means that whatever you buy on credit will be more profitable for the bank than for you - even tho u are doing all the work. Thats a mathematically impossible system - most of the 'money' in the market is based of futures - it's completely fictitious debt, not based in actual productive activity. It will collapse. It almost did in 2008 - but then the bankers made the tax payer slaves pay to save them. And they all got bonuses that year. Even tho they had wrecked their banks and the economy.
Thats my bit
Liam Parker
>It's another /cuckpol/ thread
Leo Gomez
>leftists >being successful >ever The only good commie is a dead commie.
Andrew Cox
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Juan White
>be Communist >die of starvation
Brody Thomas
Back to your cuckshed, commie cuck.
Oliver Baker
so only one aspect of her policies is supported by a clear majority of over 50%? good to know Grigor