Europoors

Why there is no career growth in Europe unless you're a lawyer or a doctor?

You might be having just 2.5k eur monthly after taxes, which makes having kids simply dangerous. You will basically paying the loans and survive. After 20 yrs of service, you might achieve, maybe, 3-3.5k eur (but very unlikely).

Why don't we deserve an average wage like in the US, which is around 6k eur after taxes? A mediocre software developer does even more, around 8-9k monthly. You can plan something with this money. You can invest, raise family and have a decent vacation. Not to mention a decent house and a car for each family member.

Whereas in Germany you will pay mortgage for a shitty flat, drive a secondhand Golf, save on clothes and food, not to say heating, water (people literally count each liter of wasted water), have a vacation in Turkey along with drunk slavshits, or Spain.

Average wage in the US being 6K WTF?! No. The average wage in the us is roughly 2-3K after taxes/mo

Average programmer does over 10k monthly

Actually its less because euros are more than dollars...

Level 5 employee I know at Amazon makes 70K? maybe 80? Managing said ballers who make half that? No. You are uninformed, Germany. And the world says burgers don't know world issues.

Pretty much the same these days

The average wage in the us is a bit above 4k. If you're white or asian it's like 6k.

You are wrong to imply that any Paco can just walk over the border and get hired as a programmer doing these numbers.
What you actually refer to are average wages in hip Silicone Valley enterprises.
Then again 2.5k after taxes is still even high in east germany, most work slaves would be very content doing these figures around here (low life costs).

He said after taxes. After taxes median wages. It's simple math.

Household income US average is 55K
divide by 12.
Take 20% for taxes (being generous)
Average after taxes is roughly $3500.

And that's generous.

>Change name to Ahmed
>get 3k Euro for existing

You can still have children though. Muslims and Roma have 3-5 completely on welfare. Having many children when on welfare actually increases your drawings from the government in Germany. It's the Kindergeld, stupid. If they can do it, you can, too.

Why the fuck aren't white people having more children over there. Every white family I know here has 5-7 kids. (Granted, I live in the country and homeschool-topia, but still)

How many do you have urself prick?

Four and counting. Have more babies, fag.

I didn't ask you, fag. I asked him

Doesn't make you less of a fag. He's right, regardless of youngling count.

But why am I fag, fag?

Because your answer to logic is an ad hominem and won't apply the question to yourself. i.e cunty fag

I make 220k per year... oh wait, I am a lawyer.

Ok seriously, both law and medicine are dead end middle class jobs. Better start a good burger restaurant or bakery or plumbing business and franchise out.

Jesus, if you had bought some land in South America 10 yrs ago and had started to plant cherry trees, you could be a multi millionaire by now.

Well, let's make this clear, you wouldn't want to have children in this cuckland. You simply have no idea how fucked it is. To get to know this, you need to live here at least for 5 yrs.

I curse you

So move to America. The Spics do it all the time. Oregon/Washington is basically the Wild west still. We have cowboys.

>So move to America.
I hate it when Burgers say that. America has one of the strictest legal immigration systems worldwide. I have a PhD, and two masters degrees and it would still be extremely hard, if not near impossible to legally come to America. Meanwhile if you want to come to Germany from anywhere in Europe, there are zero restrictions and from outside of Europe you can essentially come to Germany if you make like 40k or something, no questions asked - Allah Akbar.

And America is getting worse with its legal immigration system as the visa system is being clocked up by Indians, Pakis and Chinese lately.

I mean, I can see why America is so attractive, it is a big country and the language is English and generally, bureaucracy is low and personal freedoms are high, so the complete opposite of Europe, BUT why does America prefer Hispanics, Chinese, Indians and Pakis over some white Christian Western Europeans with a PhD?

Because you are cucks.

Pretty much like Europe prefers Müsli and niggers instead of qualified work force from such countries as, say, Russia.

I work in academic science. Currently, I have a long-term position for at least 5 yrs and possibility to supervise my own projects. Whereas if I applied for, say, postdoc positions in the US, I would just be a work horse for some year or two working essentially in favor of the PI.

Huge service industry growth which gives average workers no real marketable trade skill even if they work in their job for 20 years.

Entrepeneurship is frowned upon because socialism.

>BUT why does America prefer Hispanics, Chinese, Indians and Pakis over some white Christian Western Europeans with a PhD?

Hispanics just hop the border illegally, they don't really count.

but as far the Chinese and Indians, they all study computer science fields, then big corporations pay to import them so they can work at half of what they'd pay an american worker.

>why does America prefer Hispanics, Chinese, Indians and Pakis over some white Christian Western Europeans with a PhD

I don't think anyone actually prefers them. I think they seem to have the specific degrees certain companies look for. What is your PHD in?

>I work in academic science. Currently, I have a long-term position for at least 5 yrs and possibility to supervise my own projects. Whereas if I applied for, say, postdoc positions in the US, I would just be a work horse for some year or two working essentially in favor of the PI.
Yeah no, higher ed is definitely not where you want to be (in higher ed myself).

>but as far the Chinese and Indians, they all study computer science fields, then big corporations pay to import them so they can work at half of what they'd pay an american worker.
Which will have (and in fact already has) huge consequences for you

BUT EUROPE IS THE RICHEST CONTINENT IN THE WORLD

DONT YOU JUST LOVE IT HERE

WE ARE SOOOOOOO RICH

EVEN IF YOURE LOWER CLASS AND CAN BARELY MAKE IT FROM ONE MONTH TO THE NEXT

IN FACT

WE ARE SOOOOOOOOO RICH

WE COULD EASILY AFFORD TO TAKE IN 100 MILLION IMMIGRANTS PER YEAR!!

LETS DO IT! IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE A SPOILED RACIST!

>they all study computer science fields
Thats exactly why. Tech companies in OR are hiring HS grads. It's getting bad, guys.

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Tell me moar

I thought everyone was rich in Germany, is that a lie then ?

Im swedish, but no fuck no, everybody is not rich here

No idea where you heard that. In Germany, only doctors and lawyers live well (except for shitskins)

To start a propaganda telling you that migration is necessary

>unemployment 4.6%(full employment)
>TONS of high paying jobs
>skilled worker shortage, engineering, programming/IT, medicine, a degree in these will get you 80k starting at minimum
>trades shortage, 1st year apprentices make $25/h, $45/h after 4 years
>americans still complain about the "bad economy"

Trump has promised to look at the Visa program these big companies are using to import all these Indians.

A simple solution is require them to pay people on H1B's an average salary of what a comparable position pays in the US so it's less attractive unless you have a genius level tech guy over in India you really want.

I dunno, they say US universities aren't churning out enough graduates with the skills needed, but idk if that's true. I'm sure they'd rather just pay half the salary for a pooinloo.

they could be stealing STEM graduates from Europe as well, but they wouldn't work for half price probably

The higher ed bubble (at listen the US) is already at the bursting point. Either this next generation will see free education for everyone (increasing work monkey status for highly educated) or enrollment will plummet with loan availability reform. Trump's terms will mean a lot in this respect.

I've heard there are many family owned businesses in Germany and those families tend to be very wealthy. In any case europe is just like any other place in the world, if you want more money you cannot just rely on a job unless you are like you said a Doctor or Lawyer, you need to create some sort of business.

Not necessarily so. As you can see, the US does give you an opportunity to prosper being just a worker.

Also, I hate this "everyone should do business" meme. Quite often, an own business fucks your life quality up.

Check out workforce participation rates. Its unsustainable.

You don't need loads of money to have children, you dipshit Hans. Stop buying shit you don't need.

Especially in germany, are you going to have 3 kids then be out in the streets?