Any Nuclear experts online?
How do I survive a Hydrogen bomb blast from say, 20 miles away from impact?
Im in an extreme dangerzone, and I know The Great War will happen soon. Please dont say "duck cover" meme, I want to know the real thing to do
Any Nuclear experts online?
How do I survive a Hydrogen bomb blast from say, 20 miles away from impact?
Im in an extreme dangerzone, and I know The Great War will happen soon. Please dont say "duck cover" meme, I want to know the real thing to do
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You're honestly probably better off dying than surviving a nuclear blast, especially in a MAD scenario.
Bomb shelter with led insulated walls
>the real thing to do
My grandfather was a Korean War veteran and he told me exactly what to do when you see that mushroom cloud
>bend down
>put your head between your legs
>kiss your ass goodbye
My natural instincts wont just let me accept death
does your house have a basement?
No, Im on the california coast
no houses here have any protection from disaster or basements
Within 20mi of a major target, you're pretty much toast. If you have enough advanced warning (unlikely) you might try evacuating to a rural area, but even if you managed to survive the exchange, chances are good that you'd end up dying a slow, painful death from radiation poisoning.
Happy New Year!
Nukes are exaggerated like the holohoax
Youre welcome for the truth
>20 miles away
Just run away before it hits, and hide when you see it coming, you'll probably be fine. But that would depend, you'd be fucked if it were a 10 megaton bomb, which probably wouldn't be used. You'd be fucked if you were 5 or 3 miles away from the epicenter of a 1 megaton bomb.
you dont need lead insulated walls. probably cinder blocks would block out the radiation. its the fallout you need to worry about.
fallout is radioactive dust and ash, so its really easy for it to get on your clothes or in your water.
basically the conventional advice is to have enough supplies and stay inside until help can arrive.
if you really want to go above and beyond you may want a decontamination room which would basically be a room with a shower and a drain in the floor. and you would wash all the fallout off and then change your clothes.
but if you wear clothes outside after a bomb drops you should dispose of those clothes and change before you go into your shelter.
Just duck and cover.
don't worry , nukes don't affect white people.
Who else here is a townfag and therefore isn't worried about Nuclear Bombs at all?
Assuming a 1MT air burst, you will walk away from it with potential 1st degree burns if moderately sheltered when it hits. Be inside, not in front of windows, etc. You can simulate whatever scenario you like here:
you think this is fake bubb?
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That's tough, Lucky me I have a basement that is 1/3 of the house. If anything should ever happen that is where I would run to...
I think thats why hes worried
Try /k/ and ask for OPpenhiemer
your only really in danger from nukes if your near a military installation.
which means somewhere they have inter continental ballistic missiles a military airstrip
The biggest key is to have iodine tablets handy. That's what is gonna really prolong your misery.
I recommend you watch this video, its from 1951 but still true today.
See pic.
Same, small town on East coast of Queensland.
There's no point worrying about it, if nukes hit then you're dead even if you're in a shelter although you may extend your suffering for a few months longer in there
To reduce your exposure time and thereby reduce the dosage received, remember the following factors when selecting and setting up a shelter:
> Where possible, seek a crude, existing shelter that you can improve. If none is available, dig a trench. Dig the shelter deep enough to get good protection, then enlarge it as required for comfort. While building your shelter, keep all parts of your body covered with clothing to protect it against beta radiation.
>Clean the shelter site of any surface deposit using a branch or other object that you can discard. Do this cleaning to remove contaminated materials from the area you will occupy. The cleaned area should extend at least 1.5 meters beyond your shelter's area.
>Decontaminate any materials you bring into the shelter. These materials include grass or foliage that you use as insulation or bedding, and your outer clothing (especially footgear). If the weather permits and you have heavily contaminated outer clothing, you may want to remove it and bury it under a foot of earth at the end of your shelter. You may retrieve it later (after the radioactivity decays) when leaving the shelter. If the clothing is dry, you may decontaminate it by beating or shaking it outside the shelter's entrance to remove the radioactive dust. You may use any body of water, even though contaminated, to rid materials of excess fallout particles. Simply dip the material into the water and shake it to get rid of the excess water. Do not wring it out, this action will trap the particles.
>Upon completing the shelter, lie down, keep warm, and sleep and rest as much as possible while
in the shelter.
What's the size of your usual atomic bomb in the modern day world?
Not rushing to the window and looking at it is a good start. Next would be getting down to your basement or as far away from exterior walls and windows as possible. Other than that, not much you can do if you're not already prepared for a nuclear detonation. You need special shelter and equipment most don't have. Not everyone has a shielded shelter, supplies, iodine tablets, CBRN gear, rad detectors etc etc in their homes
Dig. Work downwards. Build downwards. Build a safe place to eat/sleep/"live" several stories beneath the earth.
Water purification and food source is the challenge if you survive the initial blast.
Everything within a huge scope will be radioactive and toxic. "Plan" accordingly.
>Im in an extreme dangerzone
Inb4 you are white in California, then you are truly fucked
CALIFORNIA: THE BIRTHPLACE OF RAHOWA
>On June 26, 2016, Yvette Felarca was caught on video assaulting a man at a white nationalist rally in Sacramento. She punched the man in the stomach repeatedly, before throwing him to the ground. Felarca is a 7th and 8th grade Humanities teacher at Martin Luther King Jr. Middle School in Berkeley. Among her responsibilities is teaching the students under her tutelage about the Bill of Rights.
>Someone who does not believe in free speech should not teach kids about their constitutional rights.
>Felarca's activity would get a student expelled at best, or jailed at worst. And yet she's meant to be a role model for students. She has repeatedly advocated the use of militant, violent tactics to shut down opponents of her personal political pack, By Any Means Necessary (BAMN). They claim that they're "fighting the good fight," trying to stop "fascism" from taking hold in Berkeley.
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Yvette Felarca was placed on paid leave, but is now reinstated: archive.fo
>P.S. Wanna try an experiment, user? Post the above in any thread and see how fast (((they))) will slide it
Population centers and critical infrastructure are targets too dude. Are you forgetting even our order of battle in 2003 was hit the infrastructure first?
I've got a "bug out boat" for when the nuclear zombie attack happens I can be far away in the southern hemisphere while you guys bask in the radiation. It's called 'planning ahead'.
250 kiloton.
For the USA, 1.2MT is the largest in the arsenal and ready to fly. For practical purposes most bombs will be well below that. Bigger bombs are not always the correct option. Saturation of targets with smaller warheads is more effective.
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20,000 pop town, bit north from Sunshine Coast and Brisbane.
you should get the closest possible of the impact. if you can reduce those 20 miles to 10 or 5 miles it would be perfect. Try to open your eyes during the event, and remove all clothes or protective gear, so that your skin can absorve the energy.
Holy shit, That's ONLY 47 Kilotons? Fuck
Yea, i'd imagine somewhere between 250-500 kiloton would be the Average
20 miles is very much survivable from the initial blast.
It's the fallout that will fuck everyone on the periphery
>Im in an extreme dangerzone
I identified your problem.
Move.
You will die.
In a true full scale nuclear exchange you can expect a multiple strike attack especially in a significant population center. That means high altitude EMP, surface detonation, and ground penetrating warheads. Any shelter you build will be destroyed.
Decent and large map showing US targets in a 500 and 2000 warhead scenario. Note: Those are NOT all military bases folks. Lots of infrastructure will be taken out if plausibly related to war fighting efforts.
Well in the historical documentary "Indiana Jones and something crystal skull" your best bet is to get inside your refrigerator OP.
this
if it were a 1 MT nuclear bomb/missle exploded at airburst for maximum casualties, you would have to be 10 miles away to make it out from the 2nd degree radiation burn zone if you were outside.
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> afraid of dying by a nuclear blast
> sleep in the underground basement
> die of cancer caused by radon
you can't
same, live in fucking louisiana, by the gulf if i need to escape by raft
I got lucky as shit, theres an old castlesque grade school with a bomb shelter about a mile from my bed.
You're a commiefornian, just die.
>Move.
This is the only correct answer.
Im a fascist behind enemy lines my brother
>I'm with Her
Kek
To be fair the guy doesnt seem much fazed by her punching him.
>that ending
This
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Holy shit, this is what i have done and i can't understand why everybody don't do the same.
The temperature is always the same be it winter or summer, extremely cozy.
Did mine with cement though, soil tend to always be humid so enterred wood of the walls and roof would probably spoil quickly no ?
This paper is kind of interesting. Shows some of the thought process on targeting, covers MAD, etc.
If you are 20 miles away from the epicenter you're in pretty good shape dude. Remember the horizon is farther away than 20 miles. Just get in your car and drive away from the mushroom cloud at a gingerly pace and you'll be just fine.
The actual area that gets literally exploded, burned, and irradiated heavily right away is only like 6km radius even for a relatively high yield bomb, which have kinda gone out of style.
Instead we know strike multiple time in sort of a checker pattern with smaller yield bombs because it is more destructive since the power falls off quickly with distance.
Ok nother commiefornian sufferer here, lets say Im about 35+ miles out from downtown LA, on the other side of a mountain range and my house is nestled inbetween a mountains pass, could I potentially make it?
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here fag this vids series isn't terrible.
Nuke lethality is exaggerated.
My assumption was that user lives in a target-rich area that would likely be hit by more than a single warhead. I doubt that after a full scale attack there would be many survivors within 20mi of LA or any other major city/military installation
Yes, so how do I survive this?
There has to be a way
what if I go underground for 36 hours, then start trekking North? I would go east but its all desert
It's kind of a bad scenario for you. The very small chance you survive is diminished by a population that has to get as much food and water as they can. Being vaporized is a godsend to starving to death or suffering through a momentary fall of social order. It'd be like being in the epicenter of Katrina's aftermath, just a whole lot worse because LA metro has one of the highest pop densities in the states.
If a target is worth slinging a nuke at, you can count on there being more than one coming at it. A scenario for shit wrecking London was like 4 350KT bursts and 2 1MT.
If you hear warning sirens and know it's coming but can't get to a safe place start filling your bath tub, water is gr8 at stopping radiation grab a straw or something for air and you're good, you can also use it to drown yourself since you'll probably die a few weeks later from fallout or in the following nuclear winter anyway and if you're a larping neet like most of this board your chances are even worse
The levels of radioactive fallout drop by 90% for every 7-fold increase in time, so if the level at 1 hour post-blast is 1000 rads/hour, then after 7 hours, it will be about 100 rads/hour, and after 2 days and an hour, 10 rads/hour. By 2 weeks and 7 hours, it's down to 1 rad/hour, and by 100 days, it's at 100 millirads/hour.
So after 2 weeks and 1/4 a day, you will get 1.3x more than a chest CT scan per hour
To limit exposure (and prevent your untimely death):
>Complete isolation from 4 to 6 days following delivery of the last nuclear blast.
>A very brief exposure to procure water on the third day is permissible, but exposure should not exceed 30 minutes.
>One exposure of not more than 30 minutes permitted on the seventh day, then 1 hour the 8th day, 2 on the 9th, 4 on the 10th, etc.
better dig down for two weeks, most fallout already decayed
Sewers.Crawl down your favourite man hole with nbc equipment and emergency food and water supply. firearms too.
Go watch Protect and Survive on Youtube
Just stay in your shelter for like a week and you should be fine
Just buy some cheap generator and put it down there, get a collection of canned food and bottled water down there.
Most likely there would be plenty of survivors.
The thermal pulse and concussion wave would likely leave many alive in various states of injury.
Fallout over cities will be minimal, it's the silos and large airfields that will be the major ground burst targets.
Most people in the greater LA area will die of starvation and disease in the following months after an attack than the initial blast/radiation effects.
This. Buy a snorkle.
On the east coast we're fucked. Not only do we have nukes to deal with but a load of ancient nuclear power plants (Chernobyl tier) which would essentially meltdown and cause a never ending radioactive surge. If you live in Massachusetts or New Hampshire, you would be completely fucked by a nuclear bomb. Not even any point in building a bunker.
I have a pond I can jump in
the water wont boil me alive from the heat blast?
Don't listen to this user. Water only blocks neutrons not thermal radiation
If you had scuba gear and the pond was very deep and very wide, I can see you surviving the initial heat wave and radiation effects.
Best not to be afraid of nuclear war.
>How do I survive a Hydrogen bomb blast from say, 20 miles away from impact?
20 miles away you can be hurt by
1. Thermal and light radiation during clear day. Any cover and not looking at explosion will protect you.
2. Fallout if you are downwind. . Evacuation or fallout shelter. Though shelter it tricky at such range. It must be a very good shelter. Evacuation is problematical too if high population density.
If no downwind you are safe. Praise kek.
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A shelter protected by 1 meter of dirt would reduce a radiation intensity of 1,000 cgys per hour on the outside to about 0.5 cgy per hour inside the shelter.
If you were under 4 feet of water it would be 1 cgy per hour
Not everyone has a shelter, dingus. Although that makes me think jumping in a manhole would be better than water.
So build one.
Even a trench with a wood ceiling and a mound of dirt is better than hiding in the tub.
Yer dedt
Mo than likely from slow slow radiation sickness
We call them storm shelters in Real America. One benefit of having tornadoes.
pretty sure you'll boil in the bathtub.
For perspective, people boil to death in swimming pools during bush fires.
Yeah, I've been trying to make the math work to support my claim, but it doesn't. By DOE values it'd have to be an incredibly deep lake.
Build a bunker out of shipping containers
no thats not right. different isotopes have different half lives.
think about Chernobyl
I live in rural Kentucky, so I'm worried. Move?
not worried*
How about I get in my ship and sail away, like to some nice island in tropical paradise?
Assuming the blast doesn't kill you-- hope to god you live upwind of it. Be sure you have a way to escape the city that doesn't involve a fucking car and enough food, water, guns and ammo to get by on.
Guys my pasta is lost in the archives. Give me a minute to find it.
Assume 1MT MIRV devices if dealing with a nation state.
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You dont want to survive user
Prevailing wind pattern is well know, position yourself well and you will be fine.
>mfw someone wants to survive
The following is a list of locations that will be untouched by nuclear strikes and should be relatively safe from any radiation. It took several hours to
research all these states for locations with the highest chance of survival.
IF YOUR STATE ISN'T LISTED SORRY, but I wasn't able to find any locations that would be safe from nuclear strikes or radiation.
CALIFORNIA: (North) Crescent City, (Mid) King City, (South) Lake Morena County Park
NEW MEXICO: Truth or Consequences (stay the hell away from Spaceport America)
OREGON: 50 Miles away from Portland (Eugene and Medford as well to be on the safe side)
IDAHO: Anywhere near the Oregon border, DON'T go near BOISE
WASHINGTON: Olympic Peninsula Forests, or anywhere west of Mt. Olympus
ARIZONA: (Mid) Kaibab National Forest Headquarters [Ivestigate Flagstaff 24 hours after bombs fall to migrate], (North) Jacob Lake, (South) Ajo Station near Why; be prepared for the inevitable Mexico migration to reach Puerto Penasco for ocean resources
WYOMING: Jackson (expect slight radiation from wind currents)
S DAKOTA: Buffalo (expect slight radiation from wind currents)
MAINE: Eustis (had to consider Canadian targets for this one)
UTAH: Bluff
NEVADA: Not many strikes expected, but California's radiation will hit hard. Best bet would be to move to closest safe zone in another state or to Sheldon National Antelope Refuge.
TEXAS: Far west Texas; Big Bend National Park (Rio Grande is crucial for long term survival, don't veer too far), Don't go to El Paso
ALASKA: Stay 50 miles away from Anchorage and the oil pipelines.
SAN FELIPE, MEXICO: My location near the sea peninsula. Small fishing town full of mostly American retirees.
If you go to Mexico, meet me at 30°55′49″N 114°48′59″W
If you have a private plane and wish to land, the airband frequency is 118.5 MHz
*EAST COAST ANONS
If by the ocean, best bet would be to steal a boat or a plane, and head towards the south Atlantic.
BLOW IT ZEPHYRUS