hi pol,
I'm a fairly depressed person. I don't take antidepressants, though a surprising amount of people do.
During my time on pol, I've noticed that most posters seem to reject the idea of taking SSRIs, or any similar drugs. Why is this? What specific damage do they do?
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They change the chemistry and makeup of your brain and fuck you up even harder. They also form a dependency. Big Pharma has no interest in treating your disease, because when the disase is cured you don't need the medicine anymore. They simply deal with the effects.
>I'm a fairly depressed person
It's your own fault.
All drugs turn you into a deranged animal, like Yvette Felarca:
CALIFORNIA: THE BIRTHPLACE OF RAHOWA
>On June 26, 2016, Yvette Felarca was caught on video assaulting a man at a white nationalist rally in Sacramento. She punched the man in the stomach repeatedly, before throwing him to the ground. Felarca is a 7th and 8th grade Humanities teacher at Martin Luther King Jr. Middle School in Berkeley. Among her responsibilities is teaching the students under her tutelage about the Bill of Rights.
>Someone who does not believe in free speech should not teach kids about their constitutional rights.
>Felarca's activity would get a student expelled at best, or jailed at worst. And yet she's meant to be a role model for students. She has repeatedly advocated the use of militant, violent tactics to shut down opponents of her personal political pack, By Any Means Necessary (BAMN). They claim that they're "fighting the good fight," trying to stop "fascism" from taking hold in Berkeley.
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Yvette Felarca was placed on paid leave, but is now reinstated: archive.fo
>P.S. Wanna try an experiment, user? Post the above in any thread and see how fast (((they))) will slide it
You cant get hard or enjoy pot
They don't work because psychiatrists don't understand the mind. You will never be happy, happiness is a meme. Learn to live with that and you will be fine.
>cause suicidal ideation
>cause homicidal ideation
>fuck your brain
Has it occurred to you that you being depressed is a natural reaction to living in a piece of shit society? Smoke some pot if you want drugs that make you feel better, or turn yourself into a robot, your call. I don't really care
Why are you spamming this in every thread? Just make your own
I took them for a year. I have been off them for about a year. I was on a very low dose, but am very sensitive to substances in general.
It helped me survive - I was severely depressed and might have killed myself.
However, it utterly destroyed my libido, and I don't think it will ever recover. I regret taking them. I will never get my real sex drive back. I thought it was a blessing at first, but now I see it only as a curse.
I would not let my children take them.
That is why I am "against" them.
tried psilocbin mushrooms?
Its a bandaid treatment, doesn't cure you. Look to psychedelics instead. Seriously.
Even the manufacturers admit they have no idea how these medications work. Never mind that taking a drug with "suicidal/ homicidal ideation" as a side effect seems like a bad idea. Finally, these medications absolutely destroy your libido and dick.
I can't imagine any circumstance that could be worse than having a broken dick and homicidal thoughts from the mystery pills I'm taking.
so the answer that you've gotten is that Sup Forums has no idea how SSRIs work and despite a lack of any concrete evidence firmly believe they are terrible
you've gotten your answer, they do not know
>During my time on pol, I've noticed that most posters seem to reject the idea of taking SSRIs, or any similar drugs. Why is this? What specific damage do they do?
A permanent chemical lobotomy of everything that was you with a high risk of explosive violent psychosis.
responsible for most unnatural spree killings blamed on guns.
Thank big pharma for vandalising your head for money an get yourself of that toxic shit asap and eat properly, sleep properly and take a walk.
Cold water therapy is the only answer
They don't do anything for me except make me tired and hard of breath.
>it utterly destroyed my libido
I was on antidepressants from 15-27, and in 3 years, my libido has yet to return. I went from wanting to fuck every woman I saw, to not giving a shit at all, and still don't. Fuckin sucks man.
Damn. That's rough. I hope I never get so pathetically depressed that I would require a third party agent to "fix me".
John's looking for a job interview the boss (50v) "NAME" (contemptuous, pungent sound) answer startled and loose: "vincent firecracker"
sounds like Sup Forums's philosophy on basically anything
He probably was started on them while young by his doctor and parents. Kids are the biggest victims of overprescribed drugs
>be introverted,diagnosed social anxiety
>take pills, feel like shit, it impairs my libido fk that
>get off pills, git gud and end up running my own shop
i still am introverted af, and tell ppl to fk off whenever they talk to me outside work, but lifes been bretty gud
sadness is an emotion and it is normal to feel that way once in a while, not a disease that you take a pill to treat. paying for pills because "le sad" is stupid, get up and go exercise or work on something or talk to someone in real life if your feeling sad.
i think psychiatric medication is poison slow kill method
Actually, both my parents passed away in fairly brutal fashion in my young adulthood, plus other stuff. I started them at 24, off by 25.
Sadness =/= depression, although it can be one of the symptoms of depression.
I took ssri for almost 3 years. Went cold turkey and got what I called brain freezes. If I went running or just doing anything sometimes I'd kinds black out for a second. And I'm really Fucked up because of them.
you learn how to cope in stressful situations and you learn what you can work on in your life. the behavior stays when you get rid of them. if you havent learned anything from them then you probably need a mood stabilizer. theyre only addictive up until you solve your problems.
in addition theres no cure for depression so why would you blame the industry if youre dependent on them?
psychedelics can offer him a temporary happiness from being fucked up but doesnt literally make him feel better. i suggest for him to take antidepressent instead.
dudes got a face like a dark souls character.
This.
When are you Americans gonna overthrow the shit show and put a Kaiser Reinhard von Lohengramm on the throne who actually does good shit to curb capitalism's vicious cycle?
Lemme tell you as a seasoned marijuana needle injector that pot does not help in the long run. It's like booze; only it doesnt ravage your body as badly.
Find new hobbies, meet new people, go lift, stop jerking off, stop watching porn, and for god's sake, get the fuck off Sup Forums for awhile.
Romanticizing psychedelics on the internet is so 2016.
They fuck with your head senpai, that's what happened to me
>take abilify for depression
>3 weeks in the jewpill started fucking with my head
> severe anxiety for 12 hours a day
>oh fuck I can't fucking breathe
>why is it so hard to move
>My heart is beating like a motherfucker
>went on like this for 3 months.
>got so bad the hospital involuntary admitted into the psychward
>tfw medical history completely destroyed
>tfw can't own firearms
>tfw can't get into the military or paramedics
>tfw can't move out of Canada
>tfw it's been 3 years since I took that shit and I still get anxious for no reason
Don't fall for the Jewpill. STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM IT OP.
maybe the unrelenting darkness and saturation with Vodka has robbed you of the ability to read and or understand ...
Psilocybin alleviates depression safely
Not necessarily. Psychedelics simply make you better at reaching conclusions. You may also realize that life is not worth living and get further motivation to commit suicide.
Are you also one of those who thinks the world would be a better place if everyone took psychedelics at least once?
I'm handling my depression with daily high intakes of vitamin C supplements, I recommend it.
On Prozac. They haven't done anything good or bad. Still feel the same as before. I think I'll try something else. Or I'll just off myself.
Fucks with your libido? You fucking pussies. These drugs are made for people with legitimate depression. I would have killed myself years ago, or just continue being a raging alcoholic if it weren't for SSRI's. They can make it hard to cum for a long time, but it does go away.
i don't have that tattooed on my ass or anything but as a thought I can see nothing within to find fault...
I am sure if we dosed ISIS and all such assholes their shit would stop instantly
>have crippling depression
>don't leave home
>stare into ceiling for 5 hours and sleep 19 hours
>stop washing, shaving etc.
>turn off phone for weeks
>friend forces me to go to doctor
>he puts me on xanax and cipramil
>very addictive personality
>pop xanax like candy
>don't give a shit about anything
>feel like a superhero
>no more depression
>just feel like I have the worst hangover every morning for an hour and then it goes away
>xanax ends runs out in a week
>also stop taking cipramil because decide I'm not a fucking pussy
It was a fun week. Fuck jew pills, just man up and stop being a fag.
Chem engineer here. I have tried many anti depressants.
Commonly prescribed anti-D's will make you feel numb, thus aiming to pull you out of the depths of misery. SSRI's, SNRI's and NaSSA's like mirtazepine.
There are many side effects, you dick will not work, porn wont push your buttons and you'll become more autistic. These AD's are favoured by doctors because they're simply a sugar pills for people wanting a pill. They can't be over dosed on and pharma companies like selling things that dont really work for people who dont need them.
Then we have tricyclic anti-D. You can over dose on these. They are similar to things like mirtazepine. Nortryptiline is a common TCA.
Then we have the final main class... irreversible MAOI's. These things are industrial strength. If you eat a lot of tyramine on them, there is a small chance you can die. These MAOI's actually work, but they are long out of patent and the tiny risk of someone getting a "cheese" reaction is enough for doctors to not want to use them.
But heres the red pill. Do you want to cut back on your anxiety and depression without taking a pill all the time? It's simple... sleep less. And it has to be cut down gradually, over weeks.
Remember, donald trump sleeps 4hrs a night. Kanye (bit crazy, but happy) sleeps 2-4hrs per night. Most famous people sleep very little. Humans are built for tough lives, so make sure you exercise and dont feel embarrassed to try new activities to find other like minded right wingers.
Anything that isnt an MAOI is going to make you overeat, stupid and dependent. Not to mention remove your ability to masturbate (feminize?).
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>I can see nothing within to find fault...
Well then you're retarded and I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavours.
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(((They))) want you on the meds
I've tripped shrooms and acid many times and it has done nothing long term for my "depression". Stop believing everything you read in pop science articles.
I just drink.
>But heres the red pill. Do you want to cut back on your anxiety and depression without taking a pill all the time? It's simple... sleep less. And it has to be cut down gradually, over weeks.
Interesting, do you have personal experience with this? I've always neede to sleep ~9 hours in order to function and I have always been somewhat vulnerable to depression and anxiety.
Sup Forums doesn't accept that mental illness is a thing, because they've never experienced it,
Listen to some Elliott Smith, find a kinship, and do your best to rise above it.
haha psychedelics made me obsess over death even more, convinced me that my entire life, all the decades ive lived were actually just a few seconds of lucid projection of my 'real' self that was bleeding out in the actual world, and i just needed to accept death already on all fronts, IM CURED!!!
I'm pretty sure most of us wouldn't be here if we were mentally healthy.
its bad advice
your body performs autphagy during sleep which is the process of removing damaged cellular structures... aka repair work if you deprive yourself of sleep you will accelerate disease
It catches a bad rap because a lot of people simply can't handle putting up with the short term side-effects to see the benefits (which generally make you feel horrible), and/or just don't have the patience to experiment with what is available until they find something that works for them.
Also many have the idea that the medication has a magical effect where everything will fall into place once they start - and immediately.
SSRI's and related drugs should be used as a last resort.
You are most likely depressed because of your circumstances and shitty habits, and changing those for a start could make a world of difference. Some introspection would do you some good at this point in discovering why you are unhappy. Then being proactive about making changes within your ability.
Three keys to happiness I remember hearing elsewhere are:
You need fondness for someone. e.g; Family, a partner, someone you are very close to
Something to do. e.g; A productive hobby, a job, volunteer if you must
And finally something to aspire to. e.g; A vacation somewhere, emulating someone's success, a goal of any kind.
Don't look at tackling your problems all at once, but simple and small changes are enough each day and it adds up. The trick is to stay occupied, rather than wallow in your thoughts and becoming overwhelmed by them. Through keeping busy you build purpose for yourself and confidence.
At least make the effort free of medication. But if you can't find the motivation in yourself a supplement like 5-htp might help to begin with. If that still isn't enough then consult with your doctor about whether you should start taking an MAOI or SSRI.
And then use the boost in mood provided by these drugs to make the changes mentioned.
Best of luck to you user. The world can be a shitty place, but only if you allow niggers to mug you.
There's unhealthy, and then there's fucked up. I envy those who are anything less. 12 years in hell should be enough for anbody
I take a generic form of Prozac. I'm not making excuses, but life has been pretty rough on me as of late. I only take 20 mg daily, and I've stayed active. They help, but they are by no means a cure all. Talking to others, addressing the problems that provoke your depression, and not letting yourself stay on the pity train is the only way to salvation.
More important than length of sleep is keeping a consistent sleep routine.
If your sleeping times are wildly different every night it's more likely you'll be depressed.
>en.www.wikipedia.org
This is a good post, a possible alternative to sleeping less is exercise more. You are given energy each day, we've obviously evolved past the need for this alotted amount and generally, excess energy will work against you. Worrying about things needlessly, anxiety and depression, they're like superfluous processes running on your computer, not serving any purpose and hogging up resources. Make sure that you are consumed, fully spent, on whatever you find worthwhile- doesn't really matter- and the rest will take care of itself.
I've been diagnosed with severe depression, attempted suicide twice, and was briefly institutionalized. The best thing that ever happened to me was realizing depression is not some terminal disease I'm permanently inflicted with, but a state of mind I trapped myself in because I believed I had depression. You can will yourself out of that cycle and improve your habits and patterns of thought without medication.
>You need fondness for someone. e.g; Family, a partner, someone you are very close to
Hardest part.
Sleep is but distant memory. I can't remember the last time slept more than an hour in one go.
This is my undestanding too, which is what makes it an interesting claim.
what retarded fucking doctor would perscribe xanax as first benzo?
don't fuck around with those pills user, I'd say it's ok to have one in your wallet so you can take maybe 0.25-0,5 in case of psychiatric emergancy, but you don't wanna get hooked on those, tolerance builds fast.
one thing I learned on a massive LSD dose was that emotions arise from thought.. maybe this is obvious but we can tend tyo overlook that means we can change our thoughts although emotions can lag behind that so a bit of faith that the change will come is needed to bridge that gap before you feel better....
sounds like sleep apnea to me. Drink coffee every day. that might cure it.
Turn people into zombies
Nope, just 12 years of deep depression and anxiety. I can't even get a hard-on any more. Going to an-hero pretty soon. It's not that life isn't worth living any more, it''s agony now
Man some of those pills can actually help you, don't underestimate them.
Even the most elegant tipper has love for somebody.
Maybe try the high dose nicotine, like I suggested in the other thread you were posting on.
Great posts by NZ anons. It's a pleasure to share the anglosphere with you lads :')
I've been chain smoking for the past year. Some people are un-salvageable. See you all in the big nothing!
I don't know the details of your case, but may I recommend to you and everybody else watching a documentary available on Netflix, it's called "Food Matters".
Essentially, when you are depressed you do a shit job at taking care of yourself - feeding yourself properly is one of the things depressed folks fail at. This only develops into a vicious cycle in which you just feel worse everyday, starving your body and your brain, making you more depressed.
It's worth a watch, trust me, you got nothing to lose.
Yes. I cut down to 4-6hrs sleep per night. Its hard to maintain it during holidays though when you dont have a schedule.
Dont go below 4hrs, otherwise you will begin to think that you are an alien from outer space like Kanye west. Love the guy though, but days without sleep is not a good idea.
And naps on a table or desk are good, 1-2 per day will help you make new memories.
They work fine, never take medical advice, or any advice from Sup Forums
Anxiety and depression can be a death sentence. 4hrs a night is fine provided you get naps in the day. Dont need to be long.
You should quit smoking, bad for your health, then try some high dose nicotine to lift your depression.
SSRI drugs do not work. Stop spreading this.
LOL
You didn't respond well to them. Stop discouraging people.
>You should quit smoking, bad for your health, then try some high dose nicotine to lift your depression.
Tried that. Went 2 years no cigs before, and spent the last 30 days nicotine free. Time to end it. 30 year old virgin anyway, not like anybody will miss me. See ya later! Hope Trump works out.
Idk what hey serve you in Brazil, but us goy are poisoned daily
>be me
>clinically depressed since birth with a side of anxiety
>see multiple "therapists"
>slimy cucks each prescribe different pills
>realize they are doing nothing more than take my money
>all of these are meant to get you addicted and turned into a silent zombie
>stop taking them
>feel no difference
>still depressed but learn to not be a pussy
Just know at some point I thought I was un-salvageable too. Used to smoke 3 packs a day -among other self destructive behaviors, now at 32 I've turned my life around. Got a loving wife and we're expecting our first boy.
Life is good.
30 is hardly old is it now user, plenty of time to turn things around.
Nope. Last post. Bye.
Tell that to image involved
Good poem, I guess that's what you would call it.
also... nice math.
First step is wanting to feel better user.
The only people responding well to it are those getting placebo effects.
The factor that really helped me get by on 4hrs sleep was naps and less food. I would fast 5-6hrs before sleeping. This is very important. If you eat a meal 2-3hrs before bed you will compromise your sleep quality.
They work fine. Don't listen to these faggots.
Everybody who doesn't have a mental illness seems to think it's some attitude problem that you can shake off. It isn't. It is almost always a physical chemical imbalance in your brain which can be treated easily with the correct medication.
Your depression is completely treatable and you can live a much happier life by taking antidepressants prescribed by your doctor.
They've made my life livable and I hope you won't listen to Sup Forums on this issue because it is an issue where they are sorely incorrect. Go see a doctor and get prescribed something. Paxil helped me but everyone seems to need slightly different medications. Go with what your doctor prescribes.
I hope you will do this user it will be a step towards a much brighter future for you.
Interesting theories but are there controlled studies to read? But yeah it shouldn't be too hard to try it yourself to see if you feel a difference. I'm going to get back into working out. And no that isn't a new years resolution, but I had stopped going to the gym the past couple months because work piled up.
Have you experienced lower libido?
I don't think we could save him, he's in a better place now.
Holly shit, I was thinking as a new years resolution to go ahead get courage and ask for medications to get rid of it, I've only smoked weed to treat my anxiety attacks but is becoming a problem now.
I never considerer any of this, I'll give it second thoughts.
Happy new years fags, you stopped me from taking a stupid choice
I dont have any studies. I never got anything out of studies about anti depressants or lifting depression. There is a profitable industry in keeping depressed people consuming, if you know what I mean.
I can't tell how it is for really depressed ppl, but for me antidepressants were a fucking bad experience. It changed me and brought me to the edge of mental sanity. Won't be trying any of that shit ever again
wow much advice ! so optimism !
I can't say with any certainty.
I have had low libido but I had low libido before medication. I think it was an effect of my depression.