What are historically important countries that never seem to get the credit they deserve?

What are historically important countries that never seem to get the credit they deserve?

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Belgium

Netherlands
Iraq

Erm why just England out of interest? Do you believe le freedumbz maymememememe?

Austria Hungary

>Greece
>2
>1 is Gorgo

Just fucking put something like Athens and Sparta for memes instead of fucking doing that you fucking faggots jesus fucking christ.

I'm happy about Felipe II because he's so fucking smug tho.

India.
They easily were a top 3 country.

Armenia

Cleopatra was greek

The Confederate States of America.

mine eyes have seen the glory...

>they made Cleopatra white
We wuz kangz btfo'd

Probs bc they will release a celt or Scotland civ in an expansion or dlc

It's probably so they can add Celts later.

Hittites, Assyrians and many other pre-arabic ME nations.

The United States

>A """country""" that existed for five years and had no foreign presence besides two ambassadors
>t. Cletus

When?

Everyone outside of Europe

Probably a Haggis lover.

see flag

LOL 2 Greeks but no Turks

Hello

>pic related

>that
>White

They made her Northern African

To elaborate, ME is called a cradle of civilization for a reason but you rarely see those nations in popular culture (save for Israel). There are some kangz quotas instead like Mali, Songhai and other irrelevant shit.

Imagine if you had held on to New Amsterdam.

Iran/Persia. Regional superpower for most of recorded history.

China is often understated as well, even if people have started to understand that China being the worlds dominant military, economic and technological power is the norm.

Should have swapped one of the greek leaders with:

Austria-Hungary or Sweden

Sycthia impact on history, or it's existence as an actual functional civilization is highly debatable. Replace with MONGOLS

Replace Brazil with Portugal.

>no Turks

However, it's only a matter of time

I wish there was Marcus Aurelius instead of Trajan, so I could remove Scythian scum with greater pleasure.

>superpower
>regional

Swedish education, everyone.

The only major achivement of Sweden that actually stuck was the intervention in the 30 year war, making sure protestantism survived.

Polovetsky khanate of diverse religions would always be portrayed as "christian poland".

Portugal will probably be added in an expansion pack at least.

Lol.

No Byzantines? Ottomans?
Weird they remembered Scythia but no Mongols. Not having either Sassanids, Achaemenids or Timurids for Persia too.

Yes, since the term super power today refers to global powers. Before the age of sail no country had any means of force projection outside their own region, but just calling Iran a "Regional power" would be under selling it.

Persia

Sweden
Kalmar unionen, WE WUZ VIKING, 30year war

Vlad the impaler
Stephen the Great
Decebalus (Really, they put Scythia in and not Dacia which was actually an empire)

By that very same logic, calling it a superpower would be overselling it. Just call it what it was: a great power.

They probably wanted to try new civs that hadn't been in previous games, which explains Mongols being dropped for Scythia since both are horse civs. No Byzantine Empire is ridiculous though.

Sweden was unironically the most important country on planet earth for 100 years. Yeah no one gives a fuck anymore because you like to hate on us instead.

They could've put the Huns instead of Scythia for a horse civ replacement.

Sure, that might fit better.

?

Poles arent samartians, stop we wuz

>they made most of the character white
STOP LYIN U CRACKAZ

Morocco.

They cucked Spain for years. Their architecture is also top tier

What stretch of 100 years saw Sweden as the most important? If you're talking about the Viking Age then Byzantium was more important, if you're talking about the Medieval Age France and the Ottoman Empire were more important, and if you're talking about anything past 1492 then Spain, France, and Britain were always more important.

Firaxis has gone full retard

Jadwiga who was a strong ruler in her own right goes on and on about how "lol I'm a king but I'm a grrl"

Italian for France.

Gorgo is the war leader for Greece. Not Alexander, not Leonidas, not fucking Hercules.

Tomyris is a top tier waifu but she's literally who tier. "Her civ probably didn't exist but lol she killed a man in a story"

"Who deserves more credit than the WIFE of a coal miner?"

Hojo the great nobody of the Sengoku Jidai. Where is Toyotomi? Nobunaga? Even the first Prime Minister was top tier and secured Japan a place on the global stage after 2 nuclear bombs.

It could've been great. Teddy and Felipe are the only saving graces this game has.

Huns were in the last game.

You were in V. You'll be in a later DLC.

Also, Sweden was never the most important country on earth. The Swedish Empire at its height was still weaker than France.

Poland

>muh oldest ally

A nation whose battle flag still strikes fear in the hearts of niggers, jews, and traitor whites everywhere.

It was 1611 to 1718. We were the most important in this age, invented most things and invented chemistry and taxonomy.

Romania

>China
>dominate military
Pick one

I have never heard anyone call Sweden more important than England, Spain, or France in the 1600s, but I admit to knowing little about its actions back then, so alright.

The Chinese have been historically proven to be absolutely trash going to war with anybody other than themselves

The Wikipedia entry is different, but even better:

>Most honored captain Pasha. I have seen the words in your letter, and that of the captain which you have imprisoned through lie and betrayal of your word, signed under your name; which you have done because you are no man, for you have no balls, you are like a lying woman and a fool. How do you intend to pact with me, if you committed betrayal and falsity right before my eyes? For I take you in no account, for you are a traitor like a Jew. When I saw your armada, I feared you could do me harm; but now I am assured, for like a Jew you lie, so did those who took Rhodes and Belgrade, because they were scared of battle; and if at Rhodes were the knights that are in this pen, it would not have been taken. Be assured that here are Portuguese accustomed to killing many moors, and they have as captain António da Silveira, who has a pair of balls stronger than the cannonballs of your basilisks, that there's no reason to fear someone who has no balls, no honor and lies like a Jew. The pen before you has such cattle that already you are scared and arranging a pact to betray; such pact, should I accept it, these knights would throw me at sea, and defend the fortress themselves.
—Captain António da Silveira

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Diu

It seems like the game has been set up for multiple leaders of a single civ, so the dream is still alive.

He is wrong, that is why. Still, Sweden was probably the third most important/influential cohesive country in europe, behind England and France, for a breif part of history.

They literally have had no external enemies able to match them for most of history. Wars was fought internally.
Mongols are an exception, but even they were just assimilated into just another dynasty.

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Habsburg Empire, Austria-Hungary, Byzantine Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Medieval Kingdom of Hungary, Swedish Empire.
Westerners tend to forget that Europe doesn't end at the former Western Roman borders

PETER THE GREAT IS NOT EUROPEAN. RUSSIA IS IN ASIA. THIS MAKES ME SCREAM AUTISTICALLY.

The part of Russia that matters is European.

Having Tibetan monks, subservient Gooks and horse niggers in the north too busy killing sandniggers in the West to care more about you aren't exactly the most challenging neighbours

I'm triggered by Philip II

Outside powers China lost to:
>Mongols
>British
>Japanese
>Americans
Outside powers China beat:
>India

>Was created in Europe
>Existed only in Europe for most time
>European culture
>Most people live in Europe
But yeah Russia is Asian because they've colonized the shit out of the syberian wasteland.

>Jadwiga
>not Jan III Sobieski, saviour of Europe
fuck female quotas REEEEEEEE

Binland

Soon, brother. Patience.

Spain and Portugal in general and on this board you can add France to the list in my opinion.

Lithuania.

Because they know its all us

>Aland
but what land?

Based Israel, our nation's greatest ally.

Binland

>what land?
A land
>A
Indefinite article which does not refer to a specific piece of land but it can be any type of land as longs as its 'a land' instead of 'the land'.

>Jadwiga
>Not Bolesław Chrobry
>Not Kazimierz Wielki
>Not Stefan Batory
>Not Jan III Sobieski
>Not Józef Piłsudski
>Not Kasztanka
>Not Towarzysz Gierek


KURWA
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W
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>Not Kasztanka
>Not Towarzysz Gierek
kekd

It really could be anyone else than her but we wuz Queens and shiet.

Enjoy your diversity in video games.

why not
Popiel
i watched that movie about him
Stara Basna or smth like that

Popiel isn't historical, most likely also completely made up(he's the only legendary prince that wasn't Piast, and it wouldn't be the first time when dynasty was said to be started by somebody who helped to overthrow a tyrant).

>he's the only legendary prince that wasn't Piast
as in from Piast dynasty in the line leading to Mieszko and later Bolesław.

Yeah but those have nothing to do with the arab countries that exist today.

Aksum is a pretty interesting African kingdom.

>Saladin
>Arabia

Spain dominated European politics during the early modern period.

France WAS Europe during the medieval period.

German Kings ran Spain, Tunisia, Italy, and France during the dark ages.

You guys do realise that Cleopatra was Greek right?

>German Kings ran Spain, Tunisia, Italy, and France during the dark ages.
Germanic. There's a difference between Germanic and German.

Majority of British people are anglo-saxon, therefore Germanic, but they are by no means Germans, all Norwegians are 100% Germanic but they are not Germans, Germans in eastern Germany are in large part slav, but they are German.

There's an interview somewhere where the lead creative designer (pink-haired, hipster-glasses chick) explained that Ghengis Khan did a lot of bad stuff, so they decided to replace him as the early-game horse Civ with Scythia.

That was a fake quote made up by Sup Forums. Google it and you'll see it doesn't exist.

So she was a Med? Like Northern Africans?

Northern Africans vary. Egyptians and some Libyans are Semitic while the rest is Berber and related to pre-indoeuropean people. She was Greek and very purebreed one as her dynasty practised incest ever since Alexander died and they've got Egypt in their hands.

Which part of North Africa are considered Meds then? By definition they share the Med sea.

So.... you're saying I'm a gullible idiot?

Great. I told all my friends and spread that over the Internet.

hahahaha

no

WE WUZ CROATIAN KANGZ FOR FUCKS SAKE

WE KUZ KANGZ MAN

WE WUZ

...

kangz.

t. Hayk Hovhanissyan