You look at all these pathetic vegetarians who scream at people "MURDER" and cover themselves in blood for attention, and naturally you would try to push yourself as far away as you can from these morons. I get it, "eating a burger is (((MANLY-NON-NUMALE)))" right???, but that's exactly what (((they))) want you to think.
But honestly, do you think it's worth the taste? >Inb4 "yes" >By satisfying your taste buds with the meat-Jew, you are putting unnatural hormones that your body isn't compatible with into yourself like a poision. >Every year they grind up BILLIONS (no, we're not making this number up like (((Muh-Gorillions of poor Jews!~))) ) and the Jews enjoy every moment of defenseless baby deaths that people turn a blind eye to. and eat their McNuggets to give you a short burst of dopamine, and a short burst of hormones as well. >You give the Jews the shekels they want every time you purchase the meat-Jews, sacrificing a life that each and every one of us get only one of.
>I get it, "eating a burger is (((MANLY-NON-NUMALE)))" right???, but that's exactly what (((they))) want you to think. So if these people told you that breathing was good, would you stop breathing out of spite? Fucking moron
Cooper Diaz
do vegans also obstain from sex because it involves putting meat inside their bodys?
Carter Martinez
>vegan are you autistic? vegetarian
Zachary Wilson
poop
Angel Watson
no, but that would be a retarded argument, as breathing and doing something because you like it are mutually exclusive of one another
Xavier Smith
Meanwhile in half that time with meat
Jaxson Howard
So why don't you look like that user?
Parker Gonzalez
REMINDER: vegans ignore all logic in true libtard fashion. Just post burgers as per protocol.
Leo Young
My temple demands blood sacrifice!
But really vegitarianism seems like a good idea, or at least eating less meat.
Luis Morales
>im a fat fuck with no self-control and meat is healthy
>logic
Nolan Scott
"instead of trying to come up with an actual argument to this particular individual who i don't know anything about, i'll just assume their arguments are just like every retarded liberal!
Jose Nelson
>all meat eaters have no self control
kek, really made me think
Jeremiah Bailey
You are an idiot, we are omnivores, the only special diet that would be worth doing if you go this far out is to only eat what you grow and kill yourself. Either raise animals expressly for slaughter so you can control what they eat or hunt wild game for meat.
Daniel Sullivan
If you're a vegetarian and harping on about murder then you are very hypocritical
The egg and dairy industries kill and torture countless cows and chickens as well
Christopher Long
do we really have to say #notall when Sup Forums talks about something?
Noah Richardson
>we are omnivores
This is simply not true, our bodies are biologically almost entirely herbivorous. The ability to eat meat does not make it ideal nor does it make us omnivorous
Sebastian Williams
Because my chest is normal and my skin isn't green
Robert Taylor
>our bodies are temples Temples made out of wet cardboard maybe.
Ayden Gray
>take a look at human body >can we eat meat? yes > does it provide me with nutrients? yes >can i encompass meat in a healthy diet? yes >does it taste good? hell yes
that's all i need. i honestly don't give a shit about animal welfare. it's not that i'm against treating animals kindly, after all, happy animals give better quality meat and taste better but i have no problem that animals are killed for my meat consumption. if a wolf can do it, so can I.
suck it veggicucks
Nicholas Kelly
SHOO SHOO GAINS GOBLIN
seriously what is wrong with his chest
Gavin Bennett
Nature is tough, unfair and doesn't give a chance to the lesser species. Humans, being superior to any animal specie, can do whatever they deem acceptable to any specie they'd like. We can literally control any specie in environments that we control almost entirely. For example, we could annihilate every specie on Earth if we decided to. It's the cold truth, we are the superior specie compared to every other. Oddly enough, we don't use this superiority, in civilized countries, to inflict total annihilation of every specie, it's not in our interest. Rather than that, we selectively chose breeds of species that are easy to control in environments we control - farms, fields-.
During their life, animals that come from western civilization's farms will be vaccinated. fed and in many cases treated with dignity by the farmers -not in every case, and there are widespread practices in the meat industry that need to change I am sure- and are killed in ways that make animals suffer the less as possible.
You can tell me whatever reason you want, but the real reason to why most vegetarians become vegetarians come from ethical reasons. I think their concern is irrational. In the wild, beasts literally eat alive their preys. We kill them on the spot, we try to not hurt them.
I'm not condoning suffering for animals, but don't make me feel guilty of some kind of suffering I didn't inflict. I'm just eating a damn steak, not a foie gras or a fresh lobster. Why do I have to always be categorized as inhumane when in fact it's just a tiny minority of meat eaters that actively participate in inhumane practices?
Connor Hill
Help me out with what "biologically" means in this context. Also the "almost" before entirely herbivorous.
Owen Jones
appeal to nature is a fallacy
We no longer live in a world of "survival of the fittest", survival of the fittest is making enough money to get some food on the table, not hunting or raising your own animals for 99% of the population. Survival of the fittest for 99% is walking down the aisles and picking what you want to spend the money on.
Adam Mitchell
Horrible insertion to origin and weak from being a vegan.
Colton Butler
>skin isn't green you might not like it, but this is the ideal male body.
Cameron Adams
You do know the only reason we're a sentient species is because we hunted and ate meat, right?
Eli Hill
no way guy we got enough energy from nuts and berries :^)
Xavier Sullivan
Meaning the structures of our bodies like our entire digestive system which includes; colon, intestines, jaws, mouth, and teeth
The "almost" basically just means we don't operate like horses, termites, and gorillas 100%.
Jason Hughes
>ideal
Yes, if he was a 2d character I'd concur
Hudson Wood
>most vegetarians become vegetarians come from ethical reasons that's the core truth there are no real physiological or nutritional or whatever scientific reasons for veganism, even vegetarianism. it's just that these people can't stomach death and the killing of aimals. since most people dont give a flying fuck about that they jewed their tactics to "science and nature" arguments in order not to lose the moral high ground fuck those people
Jack Kelly
mfw a friend started dating a vegetarian girl
Oliver Cruz
That's literally not true. There is no actual evidence to this claim other than meat simply being an addition to a diet of our primitive ancestors. Being able to cook more starches and vegetables as a whole, making them easier to digest and extract nutrients from is the far more likely option
Elijah Smith
I get all of my meat from independent hunters. What now faggot? Further more, it's mostly deer and rabbit, both introduced pest species in to my country.
How can you be so self righteous while posting this from a computer and probably driving a car later or taking some other kind of motorized transport.
Vegetarianism and veganism are just virtue signaling bullshit.
Why is the lady in the picture wearing make up and naked? That's sending a lot of mixed signals OP.
Joseph Cox
>having a temple without animal sacrifices wasn't there even a story in the bible where Abel sacrifices a nice fucking sheep or something like that and kain some faggy plant shit. God took Abel's sacrifice, but not kains. Kain started screeming "eating animals is murder" and killed able. For a second God wondered how a vegitarian had enough strength to kill Abel (probably cause he didn't eat his sheep today but sacrificed it instead) and then banished him because he gave God some fucking grass like God is cow or something.
Andrew Mitchell
If i needed to i'd kill an animal for food, no questions asked.
Right now is not a situation for that, you literally walk to the story and pick what you want to eat.
And just because meat tastes good I don't buy it. I can control myself to not eat meat, or eat 10 lb in chocolate bars (not that the two are comparable) It's true, there is some ethical reasons behind it, just like I don't ethically kill mentally ill people because they are "weak and inferior to me". I too would like to see a world where we don't make an animal go through a sever unreasonable amount of suffering just to save a couple bucks on proper euthanasia.
Aaron Martinez
>He hasn't even killed his own food
Losers who cannot kill their food shouldn't be allowed to eat meat at all.
Easton Hughes
There's no evidence to your claim either brosephine, but hunting meat is more logically to lead to sentience than grazing on grass. Why do you think they had an appendix?
Easton Brown
Because he doesn't have jaundice
Owen Gomez
Eating animal products is deliberate and avoidable.
You are going out of your way for the death of animals.
Many forms of transportation and computers are not ideal but they have nonetheless become a necessity. And you could argue the computer and by extension the internet has done much to raise awareness about these issues
>but hunting meat is more logically to lead
Based on absolutely nothing.
>than grazing on grass
Except the part where i just explained that COOKING starches and vegetables, nothing about eating grass
Aaron Sullivan
Hunting are a primitive way of getting food.
Growing from farms and knowing how to breed bbetter plants took more brain power.
nice pseudo science though.
Logan Green
Looks like he only pumps the glamor muscles (biceps and shoulders) whike ignoring most other areas. Considering he benches about what he curls, I'd say that's the case.
Cameron Gonzalez
So things you deem unnatural are okay if they help forward vegan propaganda?
Cooper Moore
Please explain where I said okay
>propaganda
Stating truths and being able to reduce harm in the long run is not propaganda
You're free to tell me how eating animal products while using these things is less harmful than not eating animal products using these tings
Aaron Green
If the animal is already dead there is no ethical dilemma.
Jaxson Parker
>I was and still am in love with a vegetarian atheist liberal because she really had a heart and hadn't dated anyone before. >She doesn't talk to me anymore D-dodged a bullet, r-right guys?
Angel Mitchell
I have to admit you are correct that eating modernly farmed meat is slow suicide. Hunting or farming au naturale (as natural as farming can be after such a short time) is not unhealthy however. Meat should be eaten in moderate amounts like Chyna used to do it.
Modern corn & grain fed cattle is just poison. Problem is veganism or vegetarianism is flawed as well.
Your fruit and vegs are weeks, months maybe more old. Lacking in nutrients as the soil is deficient. Your soy patty shit ruins your hormones and makes you gay. Modern corn is poison. Modern dwarf wheat is literal poison and cannot be compared to the wheat in biblical or even your grandmother´s times.
Tl:dr: You are right but also wrong. No modern "food" is healthy. Only your own ecological and fully natural farm can give you healthy food.
James Williams
Go ahead and eat roadkill then, tell me how that goes
Joshua Bennett
One word for you:
LCHF.
Now kindly fuck off.
Leo Torres
yeah I mean obviously we didn't breed better livestock
Jacob Harris
>You're free to tell me how eating animal products while using these things is less harmful than not eating animal products using these tings
This is a false premise because your position is that it's somehow wrong for animals to be eaten. If we stopped eating all animals then populations of game animals would have to be killed off anyway in order to reduce their numbers. Domesticated animals would all die out in a few generations. Deer would still be making more deer.
Jacob Gutierrez
>image Nothing to do with perspective. Vegain Gains has pretty big arms, but he is literally a curlbro.
Owen Anderson
Making fires was NOT the first thing they did that got those neurons firing. It was hunting and eating animals. Our bodies were made for walking down an animal, which requires tracking.
And fucking agriculture leading to sentience? Really? Nigger get a real education.
Zachary Diaz
I was created and live in a culture where we eat (as a 3 person family) at least 3kg of (red) meat/week. I'll never let it go simply because someone thinks it's (((inhumane)))
Christian Jackson
A simple open mouth look in the mirror tells you why eating 100% meat is just as retarded as 100% vegetables.
Evan Campbell
I'm vegetarian, low carb no sugar. It's great for the body and mind. Once I started doing heavy lifting, though, I had to up carb and egg intake (probably 6 eggs daily). Eggs are better and cheaper than meat, but men need some animal products.
Vegans are all low-T faggots with vitamin deficiencies.
Josiah Davis
nice lats
Gavin Miller
>you're probably JUST AS BAD because you drive a car! >you virtue signalling idiot! >I get my animals hunted! no chemicals or nothing! >haha! where's your moral high ground now, you disgusting liberal vegicuck!
This really got you triggered didn't it?
Look, I'm fine if people HAVE to kill animals to survive, or to not cause a massive problem like overpopulation.
I'm against unnecessary death other then "muh taste buds"
Otherwise if the world blew up tomorrow I'd be fine with blowing off a rabbit's skull. But in this current existence it only comes off as greed or not being able to control yourself.
I grew up hunting and fishing. I spent most of my life working in my parents restaurants. I fully understand the economics of factory farming and hunting. But eating meat, particularly processed and red meat, is unequivocally worse for your health than a plant based diet. The meat industry is unequivocally horrendous for the environment, and horrendously unsustainable as it currently is.
Eat what you want, smoke meth if you want, burn tires if you want, idc but understand that some things are objectively worse for your health/the environment/sustainability.
My ancestors were as carnivorous as wolves and bears. I'm not a worthless, Hillary-supporting urban retard so I'm on a first name basis with my rancher and know exactly what's in my beef. Raise my own chickens and pigs, kill my own venison. Animal lives are inherently worth less than human lives. Killing billions is fine. Killing and brutality and not something the Western world needs less of. We've gotten soft. Every vegetarian's personality would be vastly improved by a trip to a deer blind with a rifle.
Leo Scott
>killing an animal to make skydaddy proud,
>The same skydaddy that made this animal
Why the fuck.
I don't have anything against God or anything but the story isn't really supposed to be taken literally I don't imagine.
Grayson Garcia
the desert cult doesn't say it's wrong aryan values say it's wrong eating animals when not absolutely unavoidable is subhuman
Adam Carter
Hitler was a vegetarian why the fuck isnt stormfags vegetarian?
Join the revolutions dickheads
Carson Turner
>this is a false premise
That is your premise
>would have to be killed off anyway
False equivalency
>domesticated animals would all die out in a few generations
Another false equivalency
You're free to actually give a single shred of evidence for any of your claims
Adding to this, I try not to talk about the ethics of it. Everyone has a difference sense of morality so there's no point arguing with someone about evil vs good, ethnical vs not.
I don't preach to people about it in general, unless they want to talk about it, but the environmental/sustainability argument is quantifiable and irrefutable and the health argument is becoming stronger and stronger.
Jose Moore
Not an argument
If a hunter has killed something in the wild, not full of added hormones, GMOs or whatever boogeyman drugs you're claiming these animals are full of. Then there is no problem with me getting meat from him because it is naturally nutritious
Matthew Myers
You just blew a fuse and you're not parroting off terms from a "how to win an internet debate" chart.
Deer would continue to have babies if humans didn't kill them. How is this a false equivalency? It's a natural fact. Your feelings don't counter reality.
The same goes for domestic animals dying off. If every human being stopped eating meat right now there'd be a few generations of chickens and cows that would slowly die off because they're virtually all female and they wouldn't reproduce. Are you high or something?
Adam Myers
>Many forms of transportation and computers are not ideal but they have nonetheless become a necessity. noone is forcing you to use said computers and modes of transportation
just take a look at the hardcore jains in india. they go out of their way to avoid animal suffering. are you going that far? do you put a cloth over your mouth not to breath in insects? to sweep a broom before your feet when you walk in order not to step on ants? No? You disgusting bigot
Wyatt Cruz
eating animal foods is actually much better for your body.
the problem is that ((((companies)))) market out products that only include lean meat like chicken breast, cutlets. instead of people in the old days who ate hearts, brains, livers and organ meat of animals. that shit has alot more nutritional value than the meat everybody eats.
also since its made cheap, filled with all sorts of additives and toxins, xenohormones etc. most animals arent fed their proper diet and made to grow faster to meet demand on a GMO diet.
raw milk, bone marrow, organ meats, fish eggs, fatty oils all important for your body. read nutrition and physical degeneration
Henry Bennett
>eggs go free range my dude, or just buy locally (if you can)
Jeremiah Ross
>health argument is becoming stronger and stronger
No. You have studies of correlation and that is all you have. For all you know the reason studies find a correlation between veganism and health is because vegans have a very difficult time becoming overweight and that factor alone explains the improvements to health.
Brody Gonzalez
>you will never be a badass vegetarian like Hitler was.
Why live?
Xavier Martin
Carbs are quickly broken into glucose and cause spikes in blood sugar-that leads to increased weight gain, being constantly hungry, and insulin resistance (beetus). Protein and good fats keep you full longer and generally those food sources have way more beneficial vitamins/minerals/fiber/etc.
Plus you get shredded as hell on low carb.
Joseph Hall
>Not an argument
It literally is. Because that's one of the few "it's already dead things" there are, unless you actually think that buy actively supporting someone that has gone out of their way to kill an animal is absolutely inconsequential
Which it appears you stupidly have
>You just blew a fuse You insinuating that I'm mad and snarkily dismissing what I say as "how to win an argument" doesn't make your weak arguments any stronger
>Deer would continue have babies if humans didn't kill them
This has nothing to do with animal agriculture, please try harder next time. You could very well argue that a variety of human-related factors have caused imbalances like these to even be a problem to begin with
>and they wouldn't reproduce
This has nothing to do with eating them. I think you may be high or just desperately clinging onto delusions
Blake Hernandez
honestly though is there anything as "white" as being vegan?
Jose Barnes
you can always try... nothing is impossible. just 18 months ago noone would have thought that trump would become president, yet here we are
James Ward
Definitely. I'm in the midwest so even top tier eggs aren't too expensive. Way better lipid profile since the chickens can eat a better diet.
Christian Jackson
>raw milk No >organ meat Literally has the most amount of toxins in the animal body as most of the edible organs ergo kidney and liver are detox centers of the body
Kayden Nguyen
>Animal lives are inherently worth less than human lives on what basis? If ayys land here tomorrow it would be nice knowing that they think the same way about our useless blue dot in the sky as they vaporize us with no sympathy other then the fun of being able to use the planet left over..
Charles King
>no one is forcing you
No one is forcing you to communicate with humans in general. This wouldn't be very productive would it? Again, please explain how this deliberately exploits animals in any remote way to that of eating them
Jains also aren't vegan
You can continue to strawgrasp all you want despite the fact you're making the false equivalency of this without having actually explained the harm behind it compared to deliberately utilizing animal agriculture (food) as some way of virtue signalling you're not doing something wrong
Jaxson Bailey
Do you consume goods that contain plastics? Rubbers? Paint? Then you are contributing to animal deaths because most of the things in your life use animal by-products. You're not as holy as you think.
Nolan Howard
Simple carbohydrates like refined grains, sugars, and fruit juices are.
Complex carbs like whole fruits, whole vegetables, and whole wheat grains are completely fine
You realize that not all of these products inherently have animal products in them, right? Of course not, you're just another person virtue signalling to distract from the fact you are deliberately participating in something that directly kills and harms animals in mass
Carson Cooper
yea if its raised off a shitty diet literally living in its own shit it will be full of toxins. i guess you have personal experience pajeet
Ryder Brown
Went vegetarian two years ago. It's grand. There's lots of viable alternatives for protein that arent meat based, and if you take supplements as well, you're pretty much covered.
It's undeniable that meat is delicious, there's no arguing against it. I just figured that it was worth trying, given that it might have been possible to sustain oneself through alernative non-meat diet, and if that was possible then maybe eating meat wasn't a justifiable daily practice.
It started as an experiment for a few weeks, and I didn't find it too much of an upset so I just kept going.
Andrew Barnes
I'm mostly vegetarian because I see no need in killing animals for food and veggie "meat" actually tastes good nowadays while being cheaper than actual meat around here. Doesn't mean that I can't enjoy a good steak though, I just abstain from cheap meat I know was produced through maximizing animal pain.
Grayson Turner
the amount of meat american consumes a year is so fucking unsustainable. 40% of the energy used in agriculture involves meat production. What happens when energy becomes far more expensive, what's going to go first..?
you guessed it.
i dont give a fuck what you faggots eat tbqh, but it's only a matter of time until the majority of americans will be no longer be able to consume the amount of meat we do now
might as well get ahead of the curb while you still can cucks ;)
Sebastian Turner
no, not quite.
Being able to live in harmony with animals for eggs and milk and not torturing them for it is the only way.
Carter Long
>Literally has the most amount of toxins in the animal body as most of the edible organs ergo kidney and liver are detox centers of the body.
go ahead, try to prove him wrong.
Literally applies to every animal.
Enjoy your hotdogs meat-jews.
Joshua Hill
>muh clean country ==no toxins in animal organs Yup American education right there, read what the 10 percent law of energy is for food chains how does it affect the toxin flow
Nathan Cruz
>Literally has the most amount of toxins when you eat food and absorp the nutrients they first go through your liver and get detoxed there. liver has a fuckton of iron in it, back in the days iron was hard to come by hence why livers are so cherished in hunting folks. it's a nutrient jackpot.
>No one is forcing you to communicate with humans in general. This wouldn't be very productive would it? strawman. >please explain how this deliberately exploits animals in any remote way to that of eating them animals die beacuase you live and move around. if you cant avoid that why dont you at least make sure that the least amount of them die? why dont you sweep a broom before your feet when you walk? i bet you have access to brooms and are physically capable of handling one. so if you are able to do it, why dont you do it? maybe you dont care that much about animals now do you?
>Jains also aren't vegan yeah, but they try to void animal suffering as much as possible, you are just waging your moral finger which is a cardinal symptom of being a dick eating faggot
of course i exploit animals. they're full of nutrients that i want so i go and get them. what's wrong with that?
Oliver Carter
Are you vegetarian? vegan? If so how long?
Just curious as I see you on here.|
8 years here.
Isaiah Evans
Well the golden one takes steroids Vegetarians are degenerate, milk is literally liquid meat, maybe even worse for you. Don't fall for the vegetarian-jew, go vegan. "Natural" meat is still high in cholesterol and saturated fats, enjoy your heart disease. It doesn't really matter if your meat comes from a factory farm or if it's grass fed or whatever, meat is still shit for humans due to the fact that we were never meant to eat it and meat just goes total ransid in our herbivorous digestive tract. Meat, no matter where it comes from, causes heart disease and cancer, and please dont give me that moderation bullshit, is cigarettes in moderation fine too? Meat is just as unhealthy as cigarettes.
Asher King
Then why don't you live in the forest, naked, with only a flint knife? There's a bunch of shit that you could say that we don't need but do anyway. We don't need to live past a few years after sexual maturity but we want to live longer and longer. We all spend our time with ultimately pointless pursuits. All of us. What exactly is your point? that you feel bad for killing animals because you anthropomorphize their emotions?
Plants feel pain and distress too. The fruit? that's technically a womb and food for plant babies. You fucking sick murderer.
How can you live with yourself knowing that you're taking part in the world wide agri-abortion industry?
Bentley Barnes
>milk is literally liquid meat this is the most retarded thing I read on Sup Forums in the last couple of weeks
Brody Scott
Good to hear you actively try to consume less meat user. It's sort of sad to see people who literally can't resist it on a daily basis.
Ryder Walker
>Implying the liver has infinite detoxification capabilities Sigh