SOCIALISM GENERAL

This is a thread to discuss socialism, communism, market socialism, anarchism (non national or capatalist) and democratic socialism.

COMMON ARGUMENT

>human nature

Human nature is defined based on material conditions.

>Venezuela

Price control and nationalization of large industry is not socialism.

>People aren't equal

Because we live under capitalism.

>Capitalism is voluntary

Voluntary in the sense you will starve to death if you don't take part, and it's a federal crime in the united states to live off the grid.

>Socialism killed 100000000 people

Not an argument, and profit motive has been the biggest motivator for most wars.

>Read economics

There is more than one school of economic thought.

>Property

Explain distinction between private and personal property.

Other urls found in this thread:

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2625893
nces.ed.gov/pubs2000/2000014.pdf
nces.ed.gov/timss/results99_1.asp
nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figure=5
nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figure=6
timss.bc.edu/PDF/p06_international_report.pdf
files.eric.ed.gov.sci-hub.io/fulltext/ED360613.pdf
ips.gu.se/english/research/research_databases/compeat/Before_1995/SISS
lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/lynn-race-differences-in-intelligence.pdf
iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/wicherts2010.pdf
iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/lynn2010.pdf
archive.fo/gaQzN
archive.fo/zmry
archive.fo/HTu0x
nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/lttdata/dataset.aspx
secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/total-group-2015.pdf
insidehighered.com/news/2015/09/03/sat-scores-drop-and-racial-gaps-remain-large
iqcomparisonsite.com/SATIQ.aspx
census.gov/hhes/school/data/cps/2014/tables.html
nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171
act.org/newsroom/data/2014/pdf/profile/Section1.pdf
act.org/solutions/college-career-readiness/compare-act-sat/
nces.ed.gov/timss/table11_5.asp
nces.ed.gov/timss/table11_3.asp
doe.mass.edu/mcas/2011timss.pdf
nces.ed.gov/pubs2009/2009001_suptables.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PISA_2012
isteve.blogspot.com/2013/12/overall-pisa-rankings-include-america.html
s3.amazonaws.com/zanran_storage/www.education.gov.qa/ContentPages/17096757.pdf#page=120
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

I support this thread, Canadian man.

Midwest US checking in

Time for the workers to take back our lives from the bankers and rich coastal fuck faces and stop with the lies of """"free""""" market economies

This exact thread was posted yesterday nice copy paste faggot

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I'll argue for Socialism once a nation is restricted to whites only.

In the mean time, politics is irrelevant.

>its another its not real communism thread
wew lad when will you losers realize your shitty ideology failed?

>racialism
must be freeing to be retarded

>SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION!

You can, just start a busine-

>NO GIVE ME YOUR SHIT FOR FREE IN THE NAME OF THE STATE!

Muh scented razor blades. Inflation is a zero sum game. All money must be fiat worthless interest payments

Is it ever real communism?

Fuck leftists

>Just exploit others instead! :^)

>TFW you finally realize that socialism is just the normalfags reconciliation with defeatism towards tradition in the modern era
>So they post shit about low IQ failed inventions, the ideas of Edward Bernays, all capped off with pictures of storm troopers in McDonald's uniforms killing minorities because Amerikkka n shit

That image is the saddest thing I will ever see. Instead of Jewish consumerism one chooses Jewish culture from a purity spiral. Because late stage capitalism means that capitalism requires endless expansionism. Holy fuck this image is everything that is wrong with the modern left.

This is now helicopter thread.

Was trickle down ever not an ass raping?
>he doesn't want the environment of the golden age of capitalism from 45-70

Go home smelly egg man

>Capitalist governments are corrupt!
>Let's give the government absolute power!

Idiots.

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>he wants to live in a country filled with niggers

Hi im milton friedman. Buy my BGI. Keynes wasn't a racist. Nazis didn't start in fag bars and create israel. No sir ree bob

>deny science because muh feelings
and yet you're probably the first one to shit on Theists

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2625893

>midwesterners
>human

>It's exploitation when you freely give them money for products and services

>used to have to prove net benefit to society
>fiat money is now free speech
How's that private hydro coming? Tories wanted immigrants and a cap and trade. Liberals give us same but a carbon tax instead

You missed a step where the bourgeois that the capitalist government represents get, uhhh... removed.

>equality
Must be freeing to be retarded

>A FUCKING LEAF

>COMMON ARGUMENT

>tries to defeat already proven and valid reasoning for socialism to be discarded with greentext

NOT
AN
ARGUMENT

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>being a cuck

Trickle down is an allegory for capitalism in general.

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No. The bank invents your productivity for you. You put robots. Do cocaine and hookers. And offshore. Muh markups. Muh cucumbers. $5/hour for your sandwiches. Make 100 $5 sandwiches an hour. Inherit the rest. Muh lemonade stand. Buy everything first. Leave 99% with interest and FUCK ALL. You're slave drivers. Derivatives debt is 2,500 trillion. We're done bud. Californee way here we come. Christian. Social. Democracy. Done and done. You are zionists. You put the terror and the brownies. Take care

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And? Soooo. Capitalism has also always been an ass raping? Is that wtf you're saying?

And you seem to habitually miss the part where a new ruling class forms and becomes tyrannical while the people suffer due to famine.

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Most people fear social unrest. Good job froggers

>oh no! theres incentive and resources to create useless products

leftist cucks and their non-issues

The biggest red pill of all.

People are not equal. People are not created equal. People will never be equal.

You pay a million bucks for a mortgage due to yodelling pickles bud

Golden rule. Muh ayys. Muh evolution. Pear shaped earth. And monkey rhesus factor

Native African IQ is in the mid 70s.

TIMSS 1995:

nces.ed.gov/pubs2000/2000014.pdf

TIMSS 1999:

nces.ed.gov/timss/results99_1.asp

TIMSS 2003:

nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figure=5

nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?Quest=3&Figure=6

PIRLS 2006:

timss.bc.edu/PDF/p06_international_report.pdf

IEA 1992 Reading assessment:

files.eric.ed.gov.sci-hub.io/fulltext/ED360613.pdf

Second International Science Study 1983:

ips.gu.se/english/research/research_databases/compeat/Before_1995/SISS

Lynn’s data:

lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/lynn-race-differences-in-intelligence.pdf

Wicherts-Lynn Exchange:

iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/wicherts2010.pdf

iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/lynn2010.pdf

Sage cucknadian threads.
Hide cucknadian threads.
Do not reply to cucknadian threads.

Last famine in USSR was in 1947, lad.

>inb4 pics of lines after Gorby's reforms

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No, actually I dont. I wasn't a stupid millenial like you and actually bought my property with money I earned, something you'll never know the luxury of doing.

>Keynes wasn't a racist
>Nazis started in fag bars
>Capitalism is what makes people stupid
>Hitler was a Jewish male prostutute who only had 1 ball and couldn't even get it up

HOLY... GUYS WE HAVE FOUBD THR MOST MEMED PERSON IN EXISTENCE

Races exist and they do matter. Stop trying to colonize black people, let them live in tribal societies in peace you fucking racist bastard. It's racist to assume black people are white people or Asian people. Fuck you. Hitler did nothing wrong letting blacks join the SS, or Jews join the German Army. Once race, one country, one ruler.

>that casket
>that particular one eyed symbolism
GROSS

Israel is spiritual

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All communists should be shot on site after they all come together as a little socialist community to dig their own mass grave.

Right in the face. Commie pieces of shit dont deserve to have an intact face in death.

I fucking hate communism.

Day of the rake soon, syrup nigger.

Too bad every study of monozygotic twins and that study by King's College still proves transracial adoptions do in fact have a no correlation with net fluid IQ.

Shh Penischet. Quiet now. The rodents and bugs of the earth are eating your face. Shh

Thinking you can take IQ correlations and make wide-reaching statements about phenotype distributions.

Come back when you've studied a little bit, senpai.

Posting some commie shit once in a while is funny, just so you can trigger some autists. But spamming the same shit everyday is just annoying.
KYS
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>Lynn
Into the trash it goes

archive.fo/gaQzN

archive.fo/zmry

archive.fo/HTu0x

No you didn't

North American Intelligence among Races:

NAEP scores:
nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/lttdata/dataset.aspx
Page 1 – Long-term trend math or reading, age 17, long-term trend scale, national, all years
Page 2 – Race / ethnicity (6 categories), all years

SAT Scores:
secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/total-group-2015.pdf

Sources used for SAT to IQ conversion:
insidehighered.com/news/2015/09/03/sat-scores-drop-and-racial-gaps-remain-large
iqcomparisonsite.com/SATIQ.aspx

US High school population:
census.gov/hhes/school/data/cps/2014/tables.html

2015 Test taker population:
secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/total-group-2015.pdf

Race and SAT to 1986:
nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171

ACT Data:
act.org/newsroom/data/2014/pdf/profile/Section1.pdf

ACT to IQ was done by converting ACT to equivalent SAT scores, and then using the SAT to IQ conversion table above:
act.org/solutions/college-career-readiness/compare-act-sat/

Lynn’s “Race Differences in Intelligence”:
lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/lynn-race-differences-in-intelligence.pdf

TIMSS and PISA data and standard deviations:
nces.ed.gov/timss/table11_5.asp
nces.ed.gov/timss/table11_3.asp
doe.mass.edu/mcas/2011timss.pdf
nces.ed.gov/pubs2009/2009001_suptables.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PISA_2012
isteve.blogspot.com/2013/12/overall-pisa-rankings-include-america.html
s3.amazonaws.com/zanran_storage/www.education.gov.qa/ContentPages/17096757.pdf#page=120

>I couldn't find it
>IT DOESNT EXIST

Dude, you don't even have to shoot them.
They'll starve to death or they'll kill themselves.

You don't have to do a single thing

Hide all commie threads and remember to sage if you have to post

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Nice argument.

>Human nature is defined based on material conditions.

No you fucking retard, it isn't.

>price control and nationalization of large industry is not socialism

Uhhh, what?

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Sure sounds like socialism.

>Voluntary in the sense you will starve to death

You mean like nature? Is nature oppressing you now too? You have to work to survive no matter the system or lack of system.

>not an argument

DON'T LOOK AT ALL THE DEATHS SOCIALISM HAS CAUSED! IT WAS ALL CAPITALISM'S FAULT ANYWAY!

>There is more than one school of economic thought.

Yes, and it so happens every time socialism is tried it fails miserably with hundreds of thousands, if not millions dying.

>Explain distinction between private and personal property.

Private and personal property are the same thing you fucking mong. If I put in time and effort and acquire property then you don't have a claim to it. How fucking simple is that?

Sounds better than Venezuela or north Korea desu.

Friendly reminder that communists should be shot on site.

Why do you keep making these threads when you don't have any discussion except with people who are arguing against communism? You never change anyone's mind, you never talk with fellow communists about anything productive or meaningful, in your whole entire 'movement' there's not a single thing to do except 'subvert' and smugly repeat how inevitable your half-baked utopian ideology surely must be.

Are you lads the ones posting about how lefties are crazy enough to kill anybody who disagrees with them?

Thanks. Surprised you couldnt come up with that. Enjoy the apples

I'll say it again, If communsim is so great then explain why those restaurant owners in cuba with a private business license serve higher quality food and give higher quality service compared to restaurants that are run by the state?

Not an argument faggot, and neither is saying we pay a million dollars in "mortgage" because of yodelling pickles. Typical leftist retard

Tell that to the millions of dead Chinese and Ukranians who died for your stupid societal experiment and the millions of Venezuelans who are currently suffering from food shortages.

Every time a nation decides to oust the "capitalist oppressors" a new ruling class springs up that becomes tyrannical and sucks the country dry of all of it's wealth.

Like india canada you guys UK australia and russia. Yeah. Norway. Uruguay. And czech. Are all "shit"

>Let's just let capitalism and industry spend our resources on useless shit while the world burns up

Pretty cool idea for society I guess think it might not be super sustainable though

omg fuck off your ideology is retarded and doesn't account for human nature and you're an ugly faggot with no friends or skills.

sage and /thread

only good commie is a dead commie.

also marx was a neet ass faggot that starved his family, and two of his kids to death so he could read shitty books and other faggoty ass shit he didnt need. what a loser.

None of that refutes Lynn's data.

Youre fucking stupid. Youre the guy who goes on Price is Right and bids $86,000 on a riding lawnmower

Go find it then. Sorry but all your pseudoscience in the world means nothing. It is justification for racism and imperialism, nothing more. Even if these differences did exist, it still would not prevent socialism.

How do you calculate prices?

>implying cucks can quit
did I just prove commies the ultimate cucks

No need to, his data is trash and he's a well known hack.

>Jewish culture

Syndicalism, corporatism, and NatSoc are as white as fucking rice.

Room of 10 men and a block of cheese
They will be rescued in a weeks time
Let all ten men eat cheese for one day or let the strongest dude eat the cheese because he can protect and keep it?

You're the type of guy to ignore his toaster settings and burn his waffles because reading is a "tool of white supremacy". Fucking goober

Option a well lead to one more death than b

By being a good shopper. By playing economic and capitalist simulation games. By studying futures and etc etc. Gasoline is inelastic. Trends. Levels of refining or production. Spending power across the board. Taxation. Pensions. Outcomes. Etc etc

I dont HAVE to fuck my girlfriend's tits either.

We don't shoot commies because we have to. We shoot commies because we WANT to.

My dad dropped bombs on communists in vietnam. His dad killed communists in korea.

Ever since a child i know i wanted to kill communists.

On all levels except physical i am pinochet

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>90% white places or major exporters
>I-ITS BECAUSE OF SOCIALISM THERE ARE NO OTHER FACTORS

Just as bad as the capitalist.

What is wrong with you chinkadians?

nice

>Even if these differences did exist
you right now

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Theres a thread on the pseudo intellectualism of reading right now. Right wing white supremacist board. What were you saying? You didnt pay cash outright for no house. Youd never prove that. To whom am I speaking? Charlie Chaplin? You people don't exist. It's like internet penis sizes. Inflation comes with profit motive. Get the fuck outta my country you one party zionist queef knocker

>I don't like statistics that disagree with my beliefs
okay my dude you could have opened up with that

They fought for nothing. Dead y*nkees are glorious.

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>Pseudoscience

Then why do polls show that 50% of US geneticists believe in race? Why does everyone in China believe in race? Are you saying that Darwin was wrong. Oh thanks christfag.

called a hack by the same people that said britain would remain, or that hillary was a shoe in