If this man would have listened to his generals from the start about who they should attack and how...

If this man would have listened to his generals from the start about who they should attack and how, would we speaking German right now?

tldr: Hitler overruled his Generals on crucial moments in the war. Did it cost him the war?

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>If Hitler listened to his generals.

Funny you say that.

In 1944, Hitler believed the Allies would invade at Normandy, because it seemed to be the weakest part of the Normandy Coast Line, but his generals INSISTED that it would take place at Calais, the most heavily defended and therefore most unlikely place of attack.

Therefore, it was Hitler's generals that caused Germany to lose.

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hmm fair enough, I did not know that

Even if they made the best possible decision each time in the war nothing would have changed, russians would have just lost about 10 million more people and the allies would have actually needed to fight in the war instead of letting the russians do everything for them

Also most of you lanklets already speak german

russians do anything but die - fuk the soviets

>Also most of you lanklets already speak german

I don't think so, but the war would take much longer

1. not putting into play operation sea lion (attack britain like dday) early in the war. Get rid of the worlds biggest unsinkable air craft carrier. No bombing german cities, no dday.

2. attacking russia.Should have waited until russia attacked him.

>Should have waited until russia attacked him.
this is modern western propaganda, this would never happen

by then it was too late. US had air superiority. Even if the germans had been prepared for normandy. The US would have bombed the living fuck out of the coast until not even a crouching rat survived.

THen simply move in the troops.

The biggest mistake was not implementing at all costs, operation sea lion. Take over britian no air superiority. No US bombing. No d day.

then he woudl have only had one real front. Russia and guarding from the south of africa.

>The war would haven taken longer

And the Germans would have had nuclear weapons. How can you guys claim that nothing would have changed except more frozen ruskies? You think the war wouldn't have changed if Stalingrad, or London had been hit by nuclear weapons? The Germans had been hitting London with rockets for years, they could have easily delivered a nuclear payload. It's stupid to think a couple extra years wouldn't have changed the war and you're another stereotype of redneck patriot if you think otherwise.

exactly!

so put in to operation, operation sea lion at all costs, even if it cost you 2 million troops.

The war...won. End of story, before 1941 before US had nukes, that would have been it.

End of game.

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If Hitler won at D-Day, Germany would have the time to fund military projects that could of changed the tide of the war.

The V1 and V2 were already in production.

The German military was never in any shape to conduct Operation Sea Lion

The war was definitely winnable if Hitler had not intervened at key moments or taken personal command of the eastern front when things were going badly. He was also responsible for some terrible command appointments, such as Paulus to Field marshal whom I believe only had experience on the division command level.

That said, Hitler made some good decisions such as approving the Manstein Plan for the invasion of France. The German high command was against this plan because it involved a lot of risk and unconventional use of tanks. However it succeeded and prevented a protracted conflict with France and Britain like in WW1.

because the projected losses were too high for hitler

Well if you gave him a second chance showed him 1945 outcome

I guarantee you he would say fuck the loses. Operation sea lion is on.

Of course it would have happened, why do you think they had those giant tank factories?

And the reich would have gotten absolutely assraped if the Red Army at full strength attacked them, and if germany fell back then the rest of europe would have too

Everyone is a manlet compared to you faggots

When he made the dutch God just took basketball niggers, gave them a brain and dropped them in white paint

>Everyone is a manlet compared to you faggots

you damn right

Read Hitler's Revolution. Toward the end it is explained that his generals sabotaged the war effort. Mostly because they wanted the aristocracy (to which they belonged) to continue whereas Hitler, being a revolutionary rather than reactionary wanted to end it and instead have a pure meritocracy. They didn't realize what they were doing destroyed even the possibility of either existing.

think about it this way. The french coast was heavily fortified and the allies still landed.

The UK coast was barely forteified. Think if the germans put the equal amount of resources into it, they could have not done the reverse.

Trust me. The biggest single mistake hitler did, was not implement operation sea lion.

rare

Hitler was a paranoid, palsied wreck by the end of the war. Some of this was likely natural from stress, more of it was probably because his (((doctor))) had him high as a kite on a cocktail of opiates, amphetamines, and hullucinogenics pretty much 24/7. His higher ups were also heavy users as well.

Don't do drugs, kids. It'll cost you the war.

Thanks for the information Schlomo

and to further this. Hitler did not want to do operation sea lion. Cause it was a make or break dealio.

YOu commit, you commit. There is no more war if you fail.
That was the same for the allies. DDay was it. We don't do this, we are fucked. It sets us back to maybe not winning the war.

The allies had nothing to lose. The axis had everything to lose.

But they couldn't see 1945. So hitler did not want to risk it.

If he had, he would have won. But hind sight is 20/20.

Read Barbarossa by Alan Clark or Berlin by Anthony Beevor and you'll start too realize it was the generals that on quite a few occasions made the wrong decision contrary to Hitler's orders. It was very much in the generals interst at neurenberg to blame hitler.
Examples are Hitler preventing a catastrophic rout in 1941 at the counterattack in front of Moscow.
A situation that started with Kleist , contrary to Hitler's order broke through at smolensk and opened the road to Moscow.
Hitler had intended to beat the Russian army in the field and not focus on cities but now a rushing attack on the capital could not be avoided.
When Stalin's siberian reinforcements unexpectedly broke the attack and started to push the germans back it was Hitler who personally stabiled the front and the german army from collapse.

There are more such examples.