Living in the USA

>living in the USA
>paying for healthcare

Why does America refuse the socialist approach?

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Because the single payer system stifles innovation and leads to crony capitalism.

because america is full of literal cuckolds

Seriously, nationalized healthcare will NEVER work in the US. It may have some merit in countries that have more of a culture where civil service is meant to serve the public, the the civil service culture in the US exists where the public exists to serve the state. Look at US public schools for example. Massively expensive, ineffective and run by the most powerful bureaucracy in the US. If hospitals are ever run like this here, we're fucked.

>accuses Americans as cucks
The cucked thing to do is pay for someone else's medical bills.

Kek! Nobody is flying to Argentina to get world class medical care.

>socialist
You what?

I would completely support it if we were guaranteed to only be paying for other citizens. The truth is we'd be paying for millions of illegal immigrants and their children.

I have cadillac health insurance

my friend in E. Europe can't believe how difficult it is to get in to see a doctor. Her grandma had a heart attack and a doctor was treating her IN HER HOUSE within 10 minutes. She goes to the doctor on Saturday because the line is shorter. I didn't know there was a place where doctors were available on a Saturday.
>My 7 day stay in the hosspital recently cost $225,000
>if you're a nigger or spic or illegal, no charge

americans actually are, because its cheaper and just as effective

Well you already do. They use emergency rooms, who are legally obligated to treat everybody who walks in. Hospitals can't recoup the costs, so they charge your insurance more, your insurance then charges you more.

>Why does America refuse the socialist approach?

Because all hospitals would be DMV-tier, just like anything else run by the government.

Also our welfare class is enormous, it just wouldn't work.

They have no obligation to collect money from you if you are uninsured right? They write it off as a charity case.

It won't work here unless we depot all the beaners and dindus who would just abuse the system even more than try already do

You already are paying for that though. American hospitals can't deny emergency aid to anyone. And when the poor sob can't pay for that absurd bill, the hospital will have to take that money from others who can pay.

So you solution is to make it so I have to pay for all of their medical care? I don't follow.

>>They have no obligation to collect money from you if you are uninsured right? They write it off as a charity case.
O I am laffin
It's amazing to me the perception non-burgers have of heatlh care here. Theoretically, at a religious hospital, that's a slim possibility. Their debt collectors will hound you the rest of your life.
>worked with teen negress
>had premie baby cuz black
>was in hospital for months
>owed over a million in bills
>was on a payment plan despite having a $11/hr job, as if she could ever pay that off
>she had good insurance
The ride never ends, user. No, you don't get debt written off by big jew. You can probably bankrupt out of it.
>I was at a famous jewish hospital...don't think there's much charity

With universal healthcare a lot of diseases and conditions could be prevented. It's cheaper and easier to prevent than to treat someone.

>The U.S. spends more on health care than any other country. Here’s what we’re buying.
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obese people
99% of our healthcare costs are 400lb people ordering a quadruple bypass with a side of diabetes. With a massive portion of the country so unhealthy there is no room for free access to preventative care apparently. But people who choose the lifestyle of eating their life away should have to suffer the crippling debt that eventually comes with it

Well they can chase you but that's about it. They can't force you to pay. The same goes for tv licence here.

Public healthcare is a system which gets abused and overused. Waste of tax money.

>>Well they can chase you but that's about it. They can't force you to pay. The same goes for tv licence here.
They take you to court and get a judgement on you for , in my friend's case, approx. double what he owed. Now, if he doesn't pay, he's in violation of a judgement and is subject to arrest. They say there's no debtors prison, but there is.

You're right on that front. If people were paying for private health insurance, they might take care of themselves better and not waste taxpayers dollars from results of eating 30 big macs every day with a diet coke and pack of cigs.

Simple solution is to make obese people pay a contribution otherwise refuse treatment for self-inflicted diseases.

Healthcare should be the responsibility of States not the federal government.

We also have better health care than most every other country.

Because whoever just came on after Nigel Farage tonight on the radio had an entire segment saying that there shouldn't be independent scrutinization and audits of public health services, possibly delaying admission to hospitals for fraudulent referrals, putting potential patients' health at risk because fraudulent referrals cost the NHS millions of pounds in wasteful spending.

Go to your own /britpol/ threads and pay attention you stupid fucking britbong. Now fuck off from our politics. You have your own country to fix.

Because us white people don't want to have to pay for fucking nigger drug addicts' healthcare when we can afford it ourselves just fine

What the fuck is so hard to understand about that?

>mfw medicare/aid tax

I agree, there should be a ''slider'' that incentives good health. It shouldn't be a debt sentence to be overweight, but enough of a drain on resources that you'd say, ''hey, maybe I could stop being a fat fuck?'' The same is true with smoking, though I suppose we could just raise the tax on cigarettes even higher.

That's where your wrong kiddo. Most private insurers only care about keeping you healthy for the next 2 years because that's the average customer churn rate. Also, once you turn 65 you're on the government's dime.

The problem is that it succumbs to the will of politicians. I mentioned public schools in my previous post which are mostly state run. However, all the DoE has to do is wave a little cash in front of a state K12 school and it almost instantly becomes a federal school, i.e. Common Core.

It's not a matter of systems or organization, it boils down to the culture in government where people exist to serve the state. No similar system, however carefully designed, can effectively serve the public under such a condition, especially when tax payer money is so egregiously wasted and no body cares.

No. What they're doing is shifting payments from fee-for-service - where doctors give itemized bills for everything they did to treat you - to risk based/capped payments - where they get a set amount for treating a given condition. Tbh, personnel is the biggest cost center in the US healthcare system, so automation is probs what's going to happen to cut costs, imo.

The problem is the U.S. really doesn't have healthcare, they have disease care. Generally, we pay a lot more for our healthcare and it's not really that great compared to other developed countries. Our cancer survival rates are tier 1, but for most things we're average or below average.

Of course, we really don't really have a culture that puts emphasis on health. We have idiots running around screaming HEALTHY AT ANY SIZE, and all that nonsense. I'm a believer in single-payer systems, but I don't think they'd work well in the U.S., it's too big and too fragmented.

Because socialism sucks a dog dick. Go to Canada for socialism and dog blowing if that's your thing.

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I haven't been to the doctor in over a year, yet everything I buy has taxes that serves to pay the doctor for everybody else. I have no problem with that, but Americans do because money has more value over there. It's quite simple.