Was Ronald Reagan Overrated?

What do you think? Was he really the shining example of conservatism?

>signed into law the post '86 machine gun ban
>gave amnesty to shitskins

Among other things...
I think he was good, but not to the extent of sucking his cock and worshipping him. Also terrible actor.

Yes

He was the king of cuckservatism.

yes

Lets not forget he signed the letter along with other former presidents sent to Bill Clinton advocating for the 10 year assault weapons ban

>Instituted no fault divorce, forever ruining marriage
I hate him just for this alone

Severely.

>In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities, and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns. But we've discovered that owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning. We've learned that piling up material goods cannot fill the emptiness of lives which have no confidence or purpose.

>instead of listening, we ramped up consumption even further
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he listened to milton friedman, sparking the growth of the 80s and 90s
he convinced the country that government is the problem, not the solution

other than that, everything he did was questionable, but those two things are critical
the only way democrats had a chance of winning after reagan was with "third way" bill clinton who declared that the era of big government is over

Of course he was overrated.

He said a lot of shit that sounded good, then tripled the national debt, raised taxes, turned deficit spending into the national sport, and vastly expanded the federal government.

He was a big government progressive that convinced retards he wanted a smaller government.

Hmm. Sounds familiar...

The last good man to run America.

Trump never said anything about wanting a broadly "smaller government," although this seems to be a side effect of the policies he supports (removing Obamacare, EPA, CIA restructuring)

He was awful. Look at his administration, he was the first neocon. He also preached "small government" while starting the trend to run up huge federal deficits. Fuck him.

Nice numerals btw.

>sparking the growth of the 80s and 90s
>implying that wasn't the end of the oil-shortage + spread of capitalism to asia.

>"third way" bill clinton who declared that the era of big government is over
And took things to their natural conclusion with NAFTA kikery. Just like Blair.


Keynes was not the enemy, Keynes was a redpilled goy unlike ((Friedman))
>Keynes sometimes explained the mass murder that took place during the first years of communist Russia on a racial basis, as part of the “Russian and Jewish nature”... After a trip to Russia, he wrote in his Short View of Russia that there is "beastliness on the Russian and Jewish natures when, as now, they are allied together".

>[a reversal of speculative flows from America and Britain to Europe in the interwar years] became, in the end, the major cause of instability…We have no security against a repetition of this after the present war though not perhaps on the same scale or necessarily in the same direction. … The whereabouts of ‘the better ’ole’ will shift with the speed of the magic carpet. Loose funds may sweep round the world disorganising all steady business.
For Keynes, the policy prescription was clear:
>Nothing is more certain than that the movement of capital funds must be regulated; – which in itself will involve far-reaching departures from laissez-faire arrangements.

problem with carter was he was a left collectivist

>anti-war
>anti-Jew
>anti-CIA
>Christian who behaved like a Christian
>responsible for the economic policies that Reagan coasted on and took credit for

(((gee, I wonder why he's remembered as the worst president?)))

Ironic claim given he deregulated the airlines (good) and started deregulating the banks (OH SHIT NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING)

On the whole I'm ambivalent to him. Nixon is probably the president that ties me in the most knots - cool guy, but he oversaw the end of Breton-Woods and the de-facto unshackling of capital. (But I sympathise: Keynes pointed out at the Breton Woods conference that a special new unit of account would be better than the USD as an international reserve. Nixon inherited the timebomb, it just went off under him.)

Here's the problem:

RWG was dealing with Communism that threatened to secure control over a third of the world, and Socialism another third.

For all his faults, the Reagan machine kept Christianity, markets, general liberties, and military strength paramount in the US.

It's easy for us to sit and criticize his foreign policy for being unnecessarily bloody and leading to blowback, or his economic policies for corporatism, his drug war for helping cartels etc.

We forget that this was all a mad dash effort to bring down the USSR and its subversion ASAP.

It's easy for us to criticize his immigration policies.

We forget that he was in at least a dozen budget battles with Tipp O'Neill, and that he had to compromise somewhere to play ball.

>Christianity
Nope, see

HEY WHITE MAN.
DO YOU WANT YOUR COUNTRY BACK OR NOT?

As governor.

Shit decision, but it was ultimately the states that fucked up.

As much as I hated the Christian Coalition when I was an edgy preteen and teen, looking back I realize how instrumental they were in holding back nihilistic demoralization just for a little while.

>banned muh automagic weapons
>gave citizenship to 3M spics

Fuck that nigger.

The soviet threat was overblown.
Now I accept I'm speaking with some hindsight, so I can hardly pretend I would have done a better job given all the stuff that was already fait-accompli, but overall the USA remained vigilant for the Soviet threat even when it was clear to the most casual observers that the game was up.

In some ways I almost regret that we received a total collapse of the USSR instead of an unhanding of most satellite states and a more insular retreat. It was one of the final seals against globalism and it collapsed in on itself.

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USSR was already done at that point.
He did nothing except the retarded economic situation we have today.

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this

Reagan wasn't the hero we deserved but he was the one we needed.

a) took us out of feeling powerless and weak
b) made our economy great even if it was by national debt, people had felt like the good times were never coming back, admittedly Obama did this same thing
c) Talked tough to the Russians who were almost at the point of destroying the USA and made them understand they were secretly losing the war and gave them a soft way out and took them toward Democracy which is partially why we have the Trump/Putin alliance
d) When niggers got too uppity CIA authorized AIDS and crack cocaine which caused peace
e) Racism was actually pretty decent under Reagan
f) When liberals got too uppity and tried a coup through air travel he just shut down the Air Traffic Controllers Union and kept the planes running which is still in the top 10 badass things ever done by a sitting president
g) Everything felt possible, I think that attitude is returning. The movie Scarface was pretty close to how people really felt about the 80s, like The World Is Yours although it was the major reason Millennials are fucked because that attitude is actually pretty toxic but hey it was party time

he's an actor who switched sides

americans are too dumb to vote for anyone of substance, they need a familiar face from TV

thats why you have Trump

keep on rockin in the free world

>Talked tough to the Russians who were almost at the point of destroying the USA
kek what?

Reagan was an actor so a lot of people believe amazing things about him

Truth is he was a puppet like GWB but with a lot more personality

like how people thought Jack Bauer was head of the CIA

He was a big-government, high-spending, debt-raising, amnesty-granting cuckservative.

He just happened to be prez when the USSR inevitably collapsed, so he gets credited with bringing it about.

But yeah he was pretty shit, policy-wise.

He actually seems like a decent human bean, Carter does.

I doubt he's even a child-torture-murdering pedosatanist.

>Talked tough to the Russians who were almost at the point of destroying the USA and made them understand they were secretly losing the war and gave them a soft way out and took them toward Democracy which is partially why we have the Trump/Putin alliance

This is a complete fabrication, you and you alone lived in that timeline there buddy.